Your favorite college team: Draft/Don’t draft

[YoloinOhio]

You watch them play every week...

 

Who would you want the Bills to draft from your favorite college team? Who would  NOT want them to draft? Keep in mind scheme fit/culture fit as much as their skill/ability. 

 

 

[Luka]

Go Gators!

 

Yes:

Taven Bryan - Versatile, 3 down lineman. Can play on the outside or inside. Would be a huge addition to a desolate front 4. Also from Wyoming, before I hear any "he couldn't handle the weather" comments.

 

No:

Antonio Callaway. Basically a very gifted deep threat with the brain the size of a peanut. Very close to being a felon. Damn shame and waste of talent. 

 

 

 

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Luka said:

Go Gators!

 

Yes:

Taven Bryan - Versatile, 3 down lineman. Can play on the outside or inside. Would be a huge addition to a desolate front 4. Also from Wyoming, before I hear any "he couldn't handle the weather" comments.

 

No:

Antonio Callaway. Basically a very gifted deep threat with the brain the size of a peanut. Very close to being a felon. Damn shame and waste of talent. 

 

 

 

Is Callaway eligible for the draft? I knew he was a big time talent going into the season and then got suspended, I lost track of him 

[Luka]

2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Is Callaway eligible for the draft? I knew he was a big time talent going into the season and then got suspended, I lost track of him 

 

Yea he's hired an agent but I can't see anyone drafting him. He MIGHT be someone you give a chance in free agency. But character his a gigantic issue when you and some teammates get arrested for credit card fraud.

[H2o]

Notre Dame

 

Draft Mike McGlinchey (LT), Quenton Nelson (OG), Josh Adams (RB), Equanimeous St. Brown (WR)

 

Do not draft Niles Morgan (MLB). For as talented as Morgan seemed at times he just doesn't have the instincts and tended to disappear on the field. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Washington Yolo!! Vita Vea and Dante Pettis

Edited January 16, 2018 by the skycap

[YoloinOhio]

Ohio State:

Draft: Marcus Baugh (TE) - late round value pick. Not utilized a lot but showed a lot of ability when targeted and  like many  other pass catchers who have played here in the recent past, will be better at the next level. Numbers will keep him from being drafted high. 

don’t draft: Jerome Baker (OLB) - will be a combine freak - beware. Just not a good linebacker.

Edited January 16, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[Kirby Jackson]

Ohio State

 

Draft: Billy Price (c/og): RD 2 if he is there. He will start on the interior of an OL for a decade. He could take that RG spot yesterday and can move to C when Wood moves along or LG when Richie does. I don’t think that he will make it to your spot in round 2 but that’s an easy one for me.

 

Don’t Draft: Tyquan Lewis (DE): He took a bit of a step back this year and that is probably a result of the talent of the other guys on the DL. He’s an okay player but I’m not sure that he adds to that pass rush as much as other prospects in that range may. I am not sure how much is him and how much is from playing opposite Hubbard/Bosa.

 

Edited January 16, 2018 by Kirby Jackson

[KD in CA]

2 hours ago, H2o said:

Notre Dame

 

Draft Mike McGlinchey (LT), Quenton Nelson (OG), Josh Adams (RB), Equanimeous St. Brown (WR)

 

Do not draft Niles Morgan (MLB). For as talented as Morgan seemed at times he just doesn't have the instincts and tended to disappear on the field. 

 

Same.  Nelson is can't miss prospect of that group.  I'd be ecstatic if the Bills ended up with him.

[reddogblitz]

University of North Texas Mean Green

 

Go Mean Green

Go Mean Green

Go Mean Green

[YoloinOhio]

56 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Ohio State

 

Draft: Billy Price (c/og): RD 2 if he is there. He will start on the interior of an OL for a decade. He could take that RG spot yesterday and can move to C when Wood moves along or LG when Richie does. I don’t think that he will make it to your spot in round 2 but that’s an easy one for me.

 

Don’t Draft: Tyquan Lewis (DE): He took a bit of a step back this year and that is probably a result of the talent of the other guys on the DL. He’s an okay player but I’m not sure that he adds to that pass rush as much as other prospects in that range may. I am not sure how much is him and how much is from playing opposite Hubbard/Bosa.

 

Price is 100% “Process.” A McBean dream. Would have used him too but think he goes higher than we can take a OL. If he’s there in the 2nd would be amazing. 

[Kirby Jackson]

1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

Price is 100% “Process.” A McBean dream. Would have used him too but think he goes higher than we can take a OL. If he’s there in the 2nd would be amazing. 

Price was easy for me. I had a harder time on the don’t. I don’t love Baker but I like him more than you do (especially with the need for athleticism at LB). I went with Lewis, not because I think he is bad necessarily, but not sure that he is much better than “a guy” as a pass rusher. 

[atlbillsfan1975]

UGA

Yes-

Roquan Smith- Mc Dermott gets his MLB to make his Defense run like he needs it too.

 

Trenton Thompson would be a nice interior lineman late in the draft 3-5 rd.

 

No-

Nick Chubb- I don’t think his game will translate great into the NFL. Alabama showed his deficiencies.  

While Chubb could take the place of Tolbert I don’t think he is worth a pick. 

[Solomon Grundy]

Yolo/Kirby, tell me about Chris Worley

[YoloinOhio]

42 minutes ago, the skycap said:

Yolo/Kirby, tell me about Chris Worley

Converted safety. Has good coverage skills. Was playing out of position at mlb first half of the season... not a good result there. They moved him back to olb where he was last year for the last quarter of the season and he was much better. He’s actually more athletic than Raekwon McMillan (2nd rd pick of Dolphins in 2016) who he replaced in the middle this year, it just didn’t work out with him there and when he was in the middle none of the LBs knew what they were doing. The new LB coach may have been a factor there. Good kid character wise, from Cleveland. 

Edited January 17, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[H2o]

1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

UGA

Yes-

Roquan Smith- Mc Dermott gets his MLB to make his Defense run like he needs it too.

 

Trenton Thompson would be a nice interior lineman late in the draft 3-5 rd.

 

No-

Nick Chubb- I don’t think his game will translate great into the NFL. Alabama showed his deficiencies.  

While Chubb could take the place of Tolbert I don’t think he is worth a pick. 

would rather have Sony Michel

[atlbillsfan1975]

29 minutes ago, H2o said:

would rather have Sony Michel

Michel is the real deal. I think he could have the best pro career of any running back coming out. He will be a dual threat that can catch and run. 

[YoloinOhio]

23 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Michel is the real deal. I think he could have the best pro career of any running back coming out. He will be a dual threat that can catch and run. 

Reminds me of Shady

[Kirby Jackson]

27 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

Michel is the real deal. I think he could have the best pro career of any running back coming out. He will be a dual threat that can catch and run. 

Kamara 2.0

[H2o]

56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Reminds me of Shady

He reminds me of Marshall Faulk a bit

[Buffalo Barbarian]

Does Syracuse have any draftable  players? I'd take a flyer QB Dungey.

 

 

[atlbillsfan1975]

4 hours ago, H2o said:

He reminds me of Marshall Faulk a bit

Nice comparison. 

Michel doesn’t possess the same change of direction skills as McCoy does, the stop to full speed quickness. Michel has amazing hands and runs between the tackles quickly and then finding an angle to gain the most yards. 

Kamara reminds me of McCoy more. Kamara is an amazing quick back that has that shifty quality. 

Michel is just under 6 foot and weighs around 220. If Michel had a good combine, I could see teams easily want to take him in the first. Teams will be looking at the fact he shared the backfield with Gurley and then Chubb. 

[Bill from NYC]

Alabama Crimson Tide:

 

Da'Ron Payne is a great DT. Last season, Ryan Anderson said that he was the 2nd fastest defensive lineman on the team.  Da'Ron penetrates on virtually every play and the Bills need a DT. He is a quiet kid and to my knowledge has never been in trouble.

 

Ronnie Harrison has the potential to be a great safety. He is listed at 6'3/215 and is a human missile who can cover all day, blitz, and is great against the run. Is he as good as Minkah Fitzpatrick? No, but Minkah is going to be a top 10, maybe even top 5 selection.

[BuffaloHokie13]

Virginia Tech Hokies:

 

Tremaine Edmunds, LB: At 6'5" 235 he has room to fill out his frame a bit at the next level. I do not see him as a solution at MLB, but he could fit as an OLB on day 2. He has shown decent coverage skills on TEs and RBs and he's coming off back to back 100+ tackle seasons.

 

Terrell Edmunds, S: 6'2" 220. I think Terrell is probably a day 2 pick as well, and I don't see us spending that premium pick on safety depth. I'd be happy to have him on the team though.

 

Adonis Alexander, CB: 6'3" 200 and a very willing tackler. He has very good size for the position, and while he has played mostly man coverage he does well in zone as well. He's lacking a bit in off-man, but otherwise impressive. I can see him improving his stock at workouts, he's a bit of a freak. Alexander was suspended from the team at one point for marijuana possession, but has otherwise kept his nose pretty clean. Could provide versatility in the NFL by playing safety and nickel CB without needing a sub. If he's around early day 3 I'm not opposed to using a pick on him.

 

Tim Settle, DT: 6'3" 335. Tim's technically a nose tackle, but he has the skillset of a penetrating 3-tech. He's still young, and he doesn't always show up in the stat sheet because he's commanding double teams 90% of the time. Hot take of this post - Settle is the 2nd best fit at DT for us in this draft behind Vea. If we took him at 22 I'd be perfectly happy.

 

Brandon Facyson, CB: 6'2" 195. He has size and has flashed a good skillset, but has been plagued with injuries that have hampered him ever since his impressive freshman year. Maybe worth a 5th round flyer, but buyer beware on durability.

 

Greg Stroman, CB: 6'0" 180. Good footwork and speed, but slender for the next level. I can see him doing well at nickel CB and being a return specialist. I'd be okay with using a day 3 pick on him.

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Alabama Crimson Tide:

 

Da'Ron Payne is a great DT. Last season, Ryan Anderson said that he was the 2nd fastest defensive lineman on the team.  Da'Ron penetrates on virtually every play and the Bills need a DT. He is a quiet kid and to my knowledge has never been in trouble.

 

Ronnie Harrison has the potential to be a great safety. He is listed at 6'3/215 and is a human missile who can cover all day, blitz, and is great against the run. Is he as good as Minkah Fitzpatrick? No, but Minkah is going to be a top 10, maybe even top 5 selection.

There was a play that sticks out for me. A back got through the line and was running downfield. While most linemen would be lost in the shuffle near the line he ran down field and made the tackle. Usually big linemen have stamina issues and need a blow. He is a full effort player on every play. He should be tutoring Dareus.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

18 hours ago, H2o said:

Notre Dame

 

Draft Mike McGlinchey (LT), Quenton Nelson (OG), Josh Adams (RB), Equanimeous St. Brown (WR)

 

Do not draft Niles Morgan (MLB). For as talented as Morgan seemed at times he just doesn't have the instincts and tended to disappear on the field. 

 

Go Irish!

 

If we could get Adams in the 4th round, then that would be an absolute steal. Kid is a beast. 

[Buffalo Barbarian]

6 hours ago, Bill from NYC said:

Alabama Crimson Tide:

 

Da'Ron Payne is a great DT. Last season, Ryan Anderson said that he was the 2nd fastest defensive lineman on the team.  Da'Ron penetrates on virtually every play and the Bills need a DT. He is a quiet kid and to my knowledge has never been in trouble.

 

Ronnie Harrison has the potential to be a great safety. He is listed at 6'3/215 and is a human missile who can cover all day, blitz, and is great against the run. Is he as good as Minkah Fitzpatrick? No, but Minkah is going to be a top 10, maybe even top 5 selection.

 

Who is that DE  you guys have ? Guy was tearing the Oline up and is jacked.

 

 

[Bill from NYC]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Who is that DE  you guys have ? Guy was tearing the Oline up and is jacked.

 

 

I think you mean Raekwon Davis, #99. He was only a sophomore this year. He's listed at 6'7" / 305. He is very quick and has exceptionally long and strong arms. I don't remember him at all as a freshman.  The kid is still learning.

Also, Anfernee Jennings is sort of a tweener. He's 6'2" / 262 and lightning fast. Saban gave him the highest grade for 1 game (Sugar Bowl) of any Tide player this season. He was hurt for the title game.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

38 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

I think you mean Raekwon Davis, #99. He was only a sophomore this year. He's listed at 6'7" / 305. He is very quick and has exceptionally long and strong arms. I don't remember him at all as a freshman.  The kid is still learning.

Also, Anfernee Jennings is sort of a tweener. He's 6'2" / 262 and lightning fast. Saban gave him the highest grade for 1 game (Sugar Bowl) of any Tide player this season. He was hurt for the title game.

 

I think it was Davis , I was shocked at how big AND lean he was . Reminded me of a Blue Collar Marrio Williams. I would draft this kid in a heartbeat.

 

 

[Mark Vader]

Michigan

 

Yes:

DT Maurice Hurst. He's been a dominant force on defense for the Wolverines and would really help the Bills interior D-Line. He's not your typical beefy defensive tackle, but he can be a versatile player on the line.

 

C/G Mason Cole. One of the top interior offensive lineman in the draft. Can play both Center & Guard, which will attract teams. He would be a tremendous addition to the Bills.

 

OT Juwann Bushell-Beatty. Good offensive tackle, who would provide depth. Mid-round pick.

 

FB Henry Poggi. If the Bills want a fullback, they can get a good one right here.

 

No:

LB Mike McCray. I really like his tackling ability, but he's very slow.

[NewEra]

9 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

Michigan

 

Yes:

DT Maurice Hurst. He's been a dominant force on defense for the Wolverines and would really help the Bills interior D-Line. He's not your typical beefy defensive tackle, but he can be a versatile player on the line.

 

C/G Mason Cole. One of the top interior offensive lineman in the draft. Can play both Center & Guard, which will attract teams. He would be a tremendous addition to the Bills.

 

OT Juwann Bushell-Beatty. Good offensive tackle, who would provide depth. Mid-round pick.

 

FB Henry Poggi. If the Bills want a fullback, they can get a good one right here.

 

No:

LB Mike McCray. I really like his tackling ability, but he's very slow.

What round would Cole go? Really hope we can add a stud RG

[Mark Vader]

6 hours ago, NewEra said:

What round would Cole go? Really hope we can add a stud RG

Mason Cole is definitely a 2nd round pick, with a slight chance at being a late 1st round pick, depending on how much teams want an interior offensive lineman.

[Canadian Bills Fan]

Alabama:

Yes:

 

Tua Tagovailoa

 

Oops.  A bit early on that one

[Kirby Jackson]

2 hours ago, Canadian Bills Fan said:

Alabama:

Yes:

 

Tua Tagovailoa

 

Oops.  A bit early on that one

I was expecting a scouting report on McGill!!

[N.Y. Orangeman]

OSU

Draft: LB Chris Worley.  Smart, versatile and a great fit in our scheme.  Love him day 3.  Played ILB this year but may be a better fit outside. I think he will be a better pro than a college player.

Don't draft:  JT Barrett....

 

Syracuse

I don't think our LBs (Franklin and Bennett) warrant selections based on size and scheme fit.  They might be worth a flyer in the 7th or as UDFAs.  I think Steve Ishmael is interesting later or as a UDFA at WR,.  Some of the seniors in our secondary (Butler and Martin) are developmental prospects.  Martin offers some versatility and Butler might be looked at as a nickel, but both are UDFAs.

Edited January 18, 2018 by N.Y. Orangeman

[Captain Murica]

On 1/16/2018 at 4:21 PM, H2o said:

Notre Dame

 

Draft Mike McGlinchey (LT), Quenton Nelson (OG), Josh Adams (RB), Equanimeous St. Brown (WR)

 

Do not draft Niles Morgan (MLB). For as talented as Morgan seemed at times he just doesn't have the instincts and tended to disappear on the field. 

 

McGlinchey is the closest thing to a franchise LT there is in this draft. Have concerns with him against Speed Rushers, but other than that he is fine prospect. If we could snag Adams in the late rounds he would be a great compliment to Shady, and will add to explosive play department. St. Brown is intriguing as he was very productive in 2016, but in 2017 his play dipped due to the drop off in QB play. He has the traits you want, 6'5" 200 lbs with 4.4 speed. 

 

I think if Kizer was on the team this year, they could have even better. Just my two cents. 

[YoloinOhio]

On 1/16/2018 at 7:58 PM, Kirby Jackson said:

Price was easy for me. I had a harder time on the don’t. I don’t love Baker but I like him more than you do (especially with the need for athleticism at LB). I went with Lewis, not because I think he is bad necessarily, but not sure that he is much better than “a guy” as a pass rusher. 

Kiper has Price and Hubbard in the 1st round in his mock. Denzel Ward 9th overall.  Said today that Jalyn Holmes is projected as a 2nd-3rd rounder.  He called Jerome Baker a “sleeper” at LB.

1 hour ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

OSU

Draft: LB Chris Worley.  Smart, versatile and a great fit in our scheme.  Love him day 3.  Played ILB this year but may be a better fit outside. I think he will be a better pro than a college player.

Don't draft:  JT Barrett....

 

Syracuse

I don't think our LBs (Franklin and Bennett) warrant selections based on size and scheme fit.  They might be worth a flyer in the 7th or as UDFAs.  I think Steve Ishmael is interesting later or as a UDFA at WR,.  Some of the seniors in our secondary (Butler and Martin) are developmental prospects.  Martin offers some versatility and Butler might be looked at as a nickel, but both are UDFAs.

Worley played outside last year and end of this year and that’s definitely his better position. I don’t know if I want rush to draft any of our LBs but I’d take him later. 

Edited January 18, 2018 by YoloinOhio

[N.Y. Orangeman]

6 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Kiper has Price and Hubbard in the 1st round in his mock. Denzel Ward 9th overall.  Said today that Jalyn Holmes is projected as a 2nd-3rd rounder.  

Worley played outside last year and end of this year and that’s definitely his better position. I don’t know if I want rush to draft any of our LBs but I’d take him later. 

He played all three positions this year (started inside then moved outside due to injuries), but agree he is a better fit outside.

Edited January 18, 2018 by N.Y. Orangeman

[Dr. Who]

UGA -- Already mentioned and I've posted numerous times already on this.

Roquan Smith and Sony Michel are going to be really good, but you probably have to trade up for Smith and you might have to take Sony in the 2nd.

I also agree with the fellow Dawg fan who is skeptical about Chubb in the pros.

[YoloinOhio]

15 minutes ago, N.Y. Orangeman said:

He played all three positions this year (started inside then moved outside due to injuries), but agree he is a better fit outside.

he started at mlb but that group of baker-Worley-booker was awful and got much better when it was baker/Booker- Borland-Worley. The injuries were a blessing in disguise to get Tuf in there in the middle. Laurinaitis Jr.