Harvey Weinstein (and others) accused of sexual harrasement

[IDBillzFan]

I know no one now. I couldnt pick Kevin Spacey out of a line up.

 

Oh, c'mon. Give it a try.

 

[boyst]

Some people make it sound like a casting couch culture is somehow ok because its always been that way or some women went along with it. As if being taken advantage of is good for the victim.

 

Most of the accusations being made are far in excess of that culture. And the underage stuff is criminal, not just confident men.

 

When my daughter is trying to get a job, her bosses arent asking for a massage. Why? Because they are not scum. And if they do, they will be fired.

casting couches are ok in my eyes. You just say no or leave if you don't want to.

[DC Tom]

 

Oh, c'mon. Give it a try.

 

 

Must be the guy in the middle...look at how he's dressed. He's obviously gay.

[Kelly the Dog]

Must be the guy in the middle...look at how he's dressed. He's obviously gay.

I think all of them are gay. The two covering their balls are definitely gay. The one pouting is surely gay. The tall one in the middle looks to have a pinkie ring for crissakes. And the one on the left trying not to look gay is a dead giveaway. Gay gay gay gay gay.

[Cugalabanza]

Gay gay gay gay gay... The tall one in the middle looks to have a pinkie ring for crissakes.

 

Don't look at him too long. He'll flip ya. Flip ya for real!

Edited November 2, 2017 by Cugalabanza

[GoBills808]

 

Don't look at him too long. He'll flip ya. Flip ya for real!

Is it Tuesday already?!

 

*EDIT: Friday. Dammit.

Edited November 2, 2017 by GoBills808

[DC Tom]

I think all of them are gay. The two covering their balls are definitely gay. The one pouting is surely gay. The tall one in the middle looks to have a pinkie ring for crissakes. And the one on the left trying not to look gay is a dead giveaway. Gay gay gay gay gay.

 

Now why you gotta go and do that? I'm tryin' to make a point...

[Kelly the Dog]

Now why you gotta go and do that? I'm tryin' to make a point...

I can't spend twenty years on this site and then suddenly, one time, on a random Thursday afternoon, out of nowhere, PREDICT that this is the one time you are going to try to make a point.

[GoBills808]

I can't spend twenty years on this site and then suddenly, one time, on a random Thursday afternoon, out of nowhere, PREDICT that this is the one time you are going to try to make a point.

You're missing the point.

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Don't look at him too long. He'll flip ya. Flip ya for real!

 

 

There's a GREAT interview with Chris McQuarrie, the writer, about the casting of Benicio and his first interactions with him that relate directly to that line. I wish I could link it, but it's an itunes thing from years ago.

 

(paraphrased)

 

McQuarrie goes into great (and hilarious) detail about how Benicio shows up to the audition (after having only had one role in a movie thus far that not a lot of people saw) looking like he hadn't slept, his hair was wild and just goes, "So, I don't read for auditions anymore. If you like me, I'll do it and figure out the part later."

 

Everyone else in the room, but for McQuarrie, loved the attitude and they gave him the part on the spot - over McQuarrie's objection.

 

Then three months go by of pre-production where no one sees Benicio or any of the cast. The first scene that was shot for the movie was the scene where they're all playing pool and the lawyer comes with the envelopes. Anyway, Singer had made McQuarrie promise that he wouldn't talk to the actors during shooting (Singer wanted one voice so there was no confusion, typical director request), but at 2am McQuarrie gets a call from Benicio asking him to come over to talk about his part.

 

So McQuarrie goes over - and describes in hilarious detail what he called Benicio's "lair" - and Del Toro wanted to change the finger up the ass scene. He was really forceful in his opinion that the whole scene made no sense because there's no way a cop would stick a finger up his ass. McQuarrie, a former PI, explained that if a cop wanted to strip search a suspect the will, there's no way to resist it. Benicio responded, "my character would never let that happen."

 

At that point McQuarrie realized no one knew what Benicio was going to do with the part. He never auditioned. He never spoke with Singer. Literally, no one knew how Benicio was going to play the character. And they were hours away from the first shot of the movie...

 

So McQuarrie asked Benicio to tell him more about his character, how he envisioned him. Benicio responds: "well, I'm Puerto Rican but my character is from Brooklyn and has a jewish last name... so I'm playing him like a Puerto Rican jew who had Asian parents."

 

To which McQuarrie had no response - other than to internally predict the movie was going to be a disaster.

 

Benicio then goes on to tell him, "my character is only in the movie to die, that's his purpose" and essentially he planned on making that trip as interesting as possible.

 

A few hours later they're on set for the first shot. Everyone else has lines before Benicio: Spacey, Pollak, Byrne, Baldwin... then Benicio delivered his first line in the accent he does in the movie and literally NO ONE understood him. Byrne pulls Singer and McQuarrie aside and says that no one can understand a thing Benicio is saying.

 

On the spot, Singer kinda sees the whole movie at once and realizes how great that is and tells Byrne: "anytime you can't understand him, say something to him" - which you see them do all the time in the film. All those retorts or anytime a character says something about his accent are all ad-libbed.

 

McQuarrie thinks made the movie what it was. He gives Benicio (and Singer) all the credit despite his lack of faith in Del Toro when they casted him.

 

Hearing McQuarrie tell that story is so much funnier because he does a great impression of Benicio.

[DC Tom]

I can't spend twenty years on this site and then suddenly, one time, on a random Thursday afternoon, out of nowhere, PREDICT that this is the one time you are going to try to make a point.

Have you actually seen the movie?

[The Dean]

Have you actually seen the movie?

 

The book was better.

[BeginnersMind]

Casting couches are not ok. On what planet is suck my d and Ill promote you ok?

 

Some warped points of view here.

[The Dean]

Casting couches are not ok. On what planet is suck my d and Ill promote you ok?

 

Some warped points of view here.

 

 

No kidding. The mind boggles.

[Kelly the Dog]

Have you actually seen the movie?

About eight times.

[DC Tom]

About eight times.

 

And you still didn't recognize the quote?

[Kelly the Dog]

 

And you still didn't recognize the quote?

Of course I did. I just ignored it.

[Rico]

Damn shame about Louis CK, he's the first one in this whole wave that I really liked. Hardly a surprise though.

[Kelly the Dog]

And now Matthew Weiner, although I always heard he was gay.

[Rico]

And now the 19-year-old Charlie Sheen molesting the 13-year-old Corey Haim, wtf.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/09/charlie-sheen-corey-haim-molestation-brett-rossi/

[BeginnersMind]

 

14 hours ago, Rico said:

Damn shame about Louis CK, he's the first one in this whole wave that I really liked. Hardly a surprise though.

 

Sounds like there are a few women with the same tale. WTF is with these guys? 

 

My friend is an employment lawyer. He is swamped right now. 

 

If you want to hire management, the street will be full of fresh resumes in a few weeks.  

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

The flood gates have opened.

 

Saw a woman on TV yesterday crying and saying her 18 year old was molested in a bar by Spacey last spring.

 

Question 

1. Why was an 18 year old in a bar?
2. Why didn't mom know where her son was?

yeah yeah j/k on #2.  

[/dev/null]

15 hours ago, Rico said:

And now the 19-year-old Charlie Sheen molesting the 13-year-old Corey Haim, wtf.

http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/09/charlie-sheen-corey-haim-molestation-brett-rossi/

 

And Corey Feldman says he fears for his life after speaking to the police

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/09/entertainment/corey-feldman-pedophilia/index.html

 

I'm thinking the person he fears has ties to the LA Crime Family and the investigation into Feldman's abuse claims risks exposing Hollywood's relationship with Organized Crime

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

3 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

And Corey Feldman

one crazy man to another 

 

Winning !!! 

 

Just Keep Jack Bauer out of this 

(Lost Boys) 

[shrader]

It's amazing how one accusation can now completely destroy someone's career.  I can in no way see someone taking advantage of that.

I'm sure a good number are legit, but at the same time, I can guarantee that we are going to have a couple careers that are ruined over a fake accusation.  The whole thing is very uncomfortable from just about every angle you look at it.

[LeviF]

2 minutes ago, shrader said:

It's amazing how one accusation can now completely destroy someone's career.  I can in no way see someone taking advantage of that.

I'm sure a good number are legit, but at the same time, I can guarantee that we are going to have a couple careers that are ruined over a fake accusation.  The whole thing is very uncomfortable from just about every angle you look at it.

 

False accusations are a big problem in this country before you even take celebrity and wealth into account.

[/dev/null]

1 hour ago, shrader said:

It's amazing how one accusation can now completely destroy someone's career.  I can in no way see someone taking advantage of that.

I'm sure a good number are legit, but at the same time, I can guarantee that we are going to have a couple careers that are ruined over a fake accusation.  The whole thing is very uncomfortable from just about every angle you look at it.

 

1 hour ago, LeviF91 said:

 

False accusations are a big problem in this country before you even take celebrity and wealth into account.

 

This is starting to turn into a 21st century SJW variant of McCarthyism

 

Are you now, or have you ever, made unwanted sexual advances...

[BeginnersMind]

2 hours ago, shrader said:

It's amazing how one accusation can now completely destroy someone's career.  I can in no way see someone taking advantage of that.

I'm sure a good number are legit, but at the same time, I can guarantee that we are going to have a couple careers that are ruined over a fake accusation.  The whole thing is very uncomfortable from just about every angle you look at it.

 

This will happen but cleaning up the wealth of atrocious behavior is a bigger problem by far. In non-celeb workplaces, women don't have much to gain by going public with accusations in proportion to what they gain. 

 

So far the celeb accusations (with the shocking exception of Sheen who appears to be innocent ?!?) have lots of sources and accounts to stand on. 

 

Spacey's and now Roy Moore's child molestation were the worst ones so far. 

 

A lot of bad actors out there quaking in their boots.  

17 minutes ago, /dev/null said:

 

 

This is starting to turn into a 21st century SJW variant of McCarthyism

 

Are you now, or have you ever, made unwanted sexual advances...

 

The headline stories haven't been denied too much thus far by the perpetrators. Even George Bush seems to be involved in some ass-grabbing.

 

Roy Moore and Charlie Sheen are the only ones issuing full denials.  And Bill Cosby. 

Edited November 10, 2017 by BeginnersMind

[Rico]

1 hour ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

This will happen but cleaning up the wealth of atrocious behavior is a bigger problem by far. In non-celeb workplaces, women don't have much to gain by going public with accusations in proportion to what they gain. 

 

So far the celeb accusations (with the shocking exception of Sheen who appears to be innocent ?!?) have lots of sources and accounts to stand on. 

 

Spacey's and now Roy Moore's child molestation were the worst ones so far. 

 

A lot of bad actors out there quaking in their boots.  

 

The headline stories haven't been denied too much thus far by the perpetrators. Even George Bush seems to be involved in some ass-grabbing.

 

Roy Moore and Charlie Sheen are the only ones issuing full denials.  And Bill Cosby. 

Very smart on their parts. If we learned one thing from OJ, it’s deny deny deny.

[Another Fan]

Supposedly in Denise Richards divorce papers it said Carlos liked to watch underage porn.  I can believe the accusations.  

 

Most of these cases don't surprise me but it really makes not want to watch anything associated with Hollyweird.  

[BeginnersMind]

51 minutes ago, Another Fan said:

Supposedly in Denise Richards divorce papers it said Carlos liked to watch underage porn.  I can believe the accusations.  

 

Most of these cases don't surprise me but it really makes not want to watch anything associated with Hollyweird.  

 

Or vote? Roy Moore’s denials are now turning into admissions that he dated teens but asked their parent’s permission...when he was in his 30s. 

 

He’s not admitting the worst accusations but he’s no longer in full denial. 

 

Harvey is impetus for a deep cleaning not just of Hollywood. 

[Rob's House]

I don't care about Louis C.K.one way or the other, but I really don't see the issue there. The way I hear it he asked female comics if they wanted to watch him jerk off and they said yes. Is there more to this?

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, Rob's House said:

I don't care about Louis C.K.one way or the other, but I really don't see the issue there. The way I hear it he asked female comics if they wanted to watch him jerk off and they said yes. Is there more to this?

 

It's a case of the coverup being what got him in trouble. Having his manager destroy the careers of the ladies after the fact, icing them out of gigs and tv shows to keep them quiet, is the bigger problem with this particular instance as far as I can tell. 

[BeginnersMind]

8 hours ago, Rob's House said:

I don't care about Louis C.K.one way or the other, but I really don't see the issue there. The way I hear it he asked female comics if they wanted to watch him jerk off and they said yes. Is there more to this?

 

He asked his subordinates to watch him jerkoff and/or whipped his d— out in front of them. Like other celebs, maybe no crime but not OK. 

 

It’s not as bad as some others in this purge for sure but not great either. His career will recover long term. Weinstein, others won’t. 

 

 

6 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's a case of the coverup being what got him in trouble. Having his manager destroy the careers of the ladies after the fact, icing them out of gigs and tv shows to keep them quiet, is the bigger problem with this particular instance as far as I can tell. 

 

I haven’t read this but I’m not following closely. 

Edited November 12, 2017 by BeginnersMind

[Rob's House]

9 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

It's a case of the coverup being what got him in trouble. Having his manager destroy the careers of the ladies after the fact, icing them out of gigs and tv shows to keep them quiet, is the bigger problem with this particular instance as far as I can tell. 

Do we know if that's true? I haven't heard anything about him wrecking their careers.

2 hours ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

He asked his subordinates to watch him jerkoff and/or whipped his d— out in front of them. Like other celebs, maybe no crime but not OK. 

 

It’s not as bad as some others in this purge for sure but not great either. His career will recover long term. Weinstein, others won’t. 

It's my understanding that these were not his employees but just other comics working the circuit. I don't know that for sure, but that's what I read.

[Chef Jim]

On 11/10/2017 at 7:45 AM, shrader said:

It's amazing how one accusation can now completely destroy someone's career.  I can in no way see someone taking advantage of that.

I'm sure a good number are legit, but at the same time, I can guarantee that we are going to have a couple careers that are ruined over a fake accusation.  The whole thing is very uncomfortable from just about every angle you look at it.

 

This was the slippery slope many were referring to when we were concerned what people were considering was sexual harassment. 

[Deranged Rhino]

3 hours ago, Rob's House said:

Do we know if that's true? I haven't heard anything about him wrecking their careers.

 

It was more his manager than CK, his manager is/was one of the most influential/powerful comedy managers in the business. The NYT article that broke the story discussed it in part (his manager denied these accusations), but it was something talked about by other comics for the past few years. 

[BeginnersMind]

10 hours ago, Rob's House said:

Do we know if that's true? I haven't heard anything about him wrecking their careers.

It's my understanding that these were not his employees but just other comics working the circuit. I don't know that for sure, but that's what I read.

 

Imagine you’re you but trying to make it in comedy as an up and coming comic. One of the most successful comics invited you to hangout. Then asks you if he can jerk off in front of you. 

 

it’s not acceptable. 

 

That ignores his coworker who who has the same story as the young comics. He took advantage of his position. He’s not Weinstein but nor is he a good guy in this. 

[The Dean]

8 minutes ago, BeginnersMind said:

 

Imagine you’re you but trying to make it in comedy as an up and coming comic. One of the most successful comics invited you to hangout. Then asks you if he can jerk off in front of you. 

 

it’s not acceptable. 

 

That ignores his coworker who who has the same story as the young comics. He took advantage of his position. He’s not Weinstein but nor is he a good guy in this. 

 

 

For what little it's worth, I believe Louie has come clean and admitted what he did was wrong and unacceptable. One of the few, so far, who (once it became public) fessed up and apologized for his behavior.

 

Doesn't excuse the behavior. But in many cases, the cover-up is what really drives the stake into the heart of these idiots. 

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, The Dean said:

 

 

For what little it's worth, I believe Louie has come clean and admitted what he did was wrong and unacceptable. One of the few, so far, who (once it became public) fessed up and apologized for his behavior.

 

Doesn't excuse the behavior. But in many cases, the cover-up is what really drives the stake into the heart of these idiots. 

 

Yea

 

atleast the perv is admitting that he's a perv

 

Weinstein is like it's a ******* setup!