Billsmovinup Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Haha I would 1000% take Simien over TT. Are you kidding? Did I miss something on Simien. Or did you mean to type the word Brady instead. I mean you cant possible be talking about the guy with the 84.6 qb rating and sub 60% completion percentage from last year right? You must be talking about the 5 time superbowl champ who some consider to be the best ever for him to be 1000% better. Edited September 25, 2017 by Billsmovinup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 With no running game either! He's a baller, straight up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Tyrod played a good game today. He definitely helped our team win. So far 2 good games and one not so hot. If he can continue to do that then we'll be in the playoffs. Not so sure he will do it but who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Tyrod played a good game today. He definitely helped our team win. So far 2 good games and one not so hot. If he can continue to do that then we'll be in the playoffs. Not so sure he will do it but who knows? Well, as we know, it isn't ALL about Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Well, as we know, it isn't ALL about Tyrod. Except when we lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 I would rather have Tyrod Taylor than Trevor Seimien.Hmmm, interesting. I am not sure. I think I would prefer Siemian. But, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 No. Siemian isn't a 7th year player with 3 years as a starter. Players with worse physical tools than him have gone on to be better QB's than both him and TT in their career. He's 10-7 as a starter, in his third year in the league, and second year starter, at 25 years old. Before today, he was tied for first in TD passes thrown. He's got room to grow and has already demonstrated to have grown A TON since last season. When this season shakes out, Siemian will be considered a better QB than TT. Betcha TT has a better QBR and QB rating at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishDave Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Great game by Tyrod today against a very good defense. Led the beat down against Denver chucking the ball out of the gun. Congrats Tyrod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Betcha TT has a better QBR and QB rating at the end of the year. QBR I could see. Passer rating, you're on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 We know you would, we know. You would take Shane Falco over Tyrod so thats not saying much. Dont be dissin shane. He hit the deaf guy for the game winner against Dallas with all 3rd and 4th stringers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Dont be dissin shane. He hit the deaf guy for the game winner against Dallas with all 3rd and 4th stringers Chicks dig scars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 QBR I could see. Passer rating, you're on! TT is 99+ now. Trevor is 87+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 TT is 99+ now. Trevor is 87+. Betcha TT has a better QBR and QB rating at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Except Trevor already had his 4 TD game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yep. The throw rolling to the left to OLeary was tremendous (as was the catch). The run for 14 yards and first down when he was all but sacked pretty much no one makes. The TD to Clay running and stopping and seeing the play materialize not a lot of guys make either. He has a lot of faults but he makes plays few make and he doesn't get credit for them. +25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 He did what he needed to do today. He still can't put up 300+ yards in the air and keep up with teams like Atlanta and NE. He is what he is and this isn't any special performance that we haven't seen from him in the past. This is his ceiling and luckily we didn't need anything more from him thanks to the way our defense played If Tyrod threw the ball 40 times a game he could put up those kinds of yards. If he was throwing to Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders it would be even easier. He can't control his pass attempts. I suspect next week we will see what high pass attempts looks like for Tyrod in this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Very happy with what I saw today My opinion still is I need to see Tyrod sustain and improve as the season goes on.....the hills and valley's in his performance have to stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Picking Montana is about one of the dumbest comparisons I have ever seen on this board... Think about that for a second...thats how dumb that example was That's not what he said. His point was pretty clear - that lacking ideal arm strength doesn't mean a QB can't be elite. He merely cited Montana as an example of someone who illustrates that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 Agreed. Tyrod is still developing. Brees was not much his first two years of starting. Something about Tyrod - I was really bothered he never seemed to bring us back in the 4th. Though it ultimately didn't quite happen, I felt the drive at the end vs. Carolina could be a turning point of sorts for TT. He had them there against a great D. Game of inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 That's not what he said. His point was pretty clear - that lacking ideal arm strength doesn't mean a QB can't be elite. He merely cited Montana as an example of someone who illustrates that point. But unfortunately, he said "Siemian may be Montana". I thought he was talking about the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yep. The throw rolling to the left to OLeary was tremendous (as was the catch). The run for 14 yards and first down when he was all but sacked pretty much no one makes. The TD to Clay running and stopping and seeing the play materialize not a lot of guys make either. He has a lot of faults but he makes plays few make and he doesn't get credit for them. That O'Leary play was Tyrod's version of the amazing throw that Aaron Rodgers made to beat the Cowboys in the playoffs last year..........nobody does it like Rodgers but that was a tremendous throw by Tyrod and unfortunately the degree of difficulty is lost on most fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Chicks dig scars. Glory lasts forever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If Tyrod threw the ball 40 times a game he could put up those kinds of yards. If he was throwing to Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders it would be even easier. He can't control his pass attempts. I suspect next week we will see what high pass attempts looks like for Tyrod in this offense.I disagree. I think Shady and the Mike have a huge game. I expect to see Taylor perform like he did today. But he's getting even better on that Play Action which I said all along will be our bread n butter. Who cares about 300 yards, if he leads us to the W , while playing his role at a high level, we'll be fine against any team. These guys are dieing to see Taylor fail. Bringing up stats that mean nothing and don't equate to wins ,smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 someone brought up Siemian's winning record as a "positive" and that hes only 25. Meanwhile Tyrod has a winning record as a starter on the Bills, without (up until this yr), the best defense in the NFL. But we dont care about that apparently. Siemian is a stud right? With his 17-14 winning %. He only took over a team that won the F'ING Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 But unfortunately, he said "Siemian may be Montana". I thought he was talking about the state. He may be. All may implies is greater than a zero percent chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 That O'Leary play was Tyrod's version of the amazing throw that Aaron Rodgers made to beat the Cowboys in the playoffs last year..........nobody does it like Rodgers but that was a tremendous throw by Tyrod and unfortunately the degree of difficulty is lost on most fans. That was phenomenal!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinTheMagician Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 And what a catch too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 TT is 99+ now. Trevor is 87+. 99.23 to be exact. He is 94.2 lifetime for the Bills, which is by far and away the best in franchise history -- and the number doesn't factor in the rushing yards or the remarkable lack of fumbling (2 lost fumbles in 2 and a fifth seasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 99.23 to be exact. He is 94.2 lifetime for the Bills, which is by far and away the best in franchise history -- and the number doesn't factor in the rushing yards or the remarkable lack of fumbling (2 lost fumbles in 2 and a fifth seasons). Sure, he has a 99 rating, but he has no running game, time, blocking, play calling or wide receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Sure, he has a 99 rating, but he has no running game, time, blocking, play calling or wide receivers. Its ok though, Siemian, who inherited a Super Bowl winning roster, is clearly better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Sure, he has a 99 rating, but he has no running game, time, blocking, play calling or wide receivers. If this is true, he's the best QB in the NFL, probably. Oh wait, no, he has the defense. That's right. Edited September 25, 2017 by jmc12290 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 If this is true, he's the best QB in the NFL, probably. Oh wait, no, he has the defense. That's right. Actually having a good defense has a significant affect on a QBs performance and rating, and Tyrod has benefitted from our defense for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Was 126 vs Denver defense. Just saying! Yup, impressive day for Tyrod, hope there are many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 That escape in the 4th was outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Outside of a couple off games, Tyrod ALWAYS plays like that. He's improved a bit but not significantly. Again, I never understood the Tyrod hate. The guy would get bashed the last two years when the defense was getting gashed left and right. He's a very solid QB. Always has been since he arrived here. Fans just want to win. They want 11, 12, 13 games like today again. So you see 8 and 6 wins and the patience wears on you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
re enlightener Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 last week i went hard after dennison,not tt, knowing tyrod is what tyrod is, a decent qb, today he stayed in the pocket, used the middle and ran a couple times when he had to, he was actually brilliant today, if he did this every week we wouldnt need to draft a qb next year, we would win a lot of games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 last week i went hard after dennison,not tt, knowing tyrod is what tyrod is, a decent qb, today he stayed in the pocket, used the middle and ran a couple times when he had to, he was actually brilliant today, if he did this every week we wouldnt need to draft a qb next year, we would win a lot of games. He was best when he rolled out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Yawn, still not a NFL QB Connor Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zonabb Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Worst metric ever. Just go look at game box scores. had this conversation in week 1 randomly after looking at the box score of the Oak-Ten game. Oakland wins the game by 10 on the road. Carr was 22/32 for 262, 8.2 average, 2 TDs and no ints in a road win. Mariota was 25/41 for 256, 6.2 average, no TDs, no ints in a home loss. Carr's qbr was 55.6 and Mariota's was 74.4. There's not a single reason you can't point to that suggests Mariota was better and no one would prefer the outcome of Matiota over Carr. An index, which is what this is, is only valid if it measures what matters. ESPN refuses to explain the variables it uses in qbr and obviously it sucks as a measure of a qbr game. Its garbage and no one other than espn uses it our should use it. Edited September 25, 2017 by zonabb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Right now Taylor's quarterback rating has him twelfth by NFL.com, but there are three guys in front of him with under ten passes - two with only a single pass attempted & completed. http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2017&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING&qualified=true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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