Beast Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Alexander (on the JMS) speaking of player personel changes McDermott has made that didn't fit his vision. No names named. Take it as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Alexander (on the JMS) speaking of player personel changes McDermott has made that didn't fit his vision. No names named. Take it as you will. I don't think we're supposed to be privy to this information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Alexander (on the JMS) speaking of player personel changes McDermott has made that didn't fit his vision. No names named. Take it as you will. Dareus got cut? Or has Dareus seen the light? Marcell is and has been their biggest individual culture problem in the lockerroom..........I think they gnawed around the bad apple but the core is still there. Having some difficult personalities to deal with is not an uncommon problem for coaches coming in.........that's why most figure out how to deal with these problem players and get production out of them.........and hopefully win them over rather than just try to pick followers and try to build a leadership core by overpaying a few vets to run the lockeroom(Lorax, Wood and McCoy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 What does "cut the fat" mean in this context? You said "didn't fit his vision" but I would equate that phrase normally with "incompetent" or "redundant". Getting rid of players that don't fit a coach's football philosophy is not really what I'd call trimming fat. It is also pretty common. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 Dareus got cut? Or has Dareus seen the light? Marcell is and has been their biggest individual culture problem in the lockerroom..........I think they gnawed around the bad apple but the core is still there. Having some difficult personalities to deal with is not an uncommon problem for coaches coming in.........that's why most figure out how to deal with these problem players and get production out of them.........and hopefully win them over rather than just try to pick followers and try to build a leadership core by overpaying a few vets to run the lockeroom(Lorax, Wood and McCoy). I think everyone realizes why Dareus is still here. It really isn't hard to understand. What does "cut the fat" mean in this context? You said "didn't fit his vision" but I would equate that phrase normally with "incompetent" or "redundant". Getting rid of players that don't fit a coach's football philosophy is not really what I'd call trimming fat. It is also pretty common. No? LorAx said it. I'm just posting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I think everyone realizes why Dareus is still here. It really isn't hard to understand. LorAx said it. I'm just posting it. I really think this could be Dareus's last year in Buffalo. I think after March 1st next year, his cap hit if traded isn't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I think everyone realizes why Dareus is still here. It really isn't hard to understand. LorAx said it. I'm just posting it. Fair enough, but the "didn't fit his vision" was your wording in your post, not a quote from LORAX. That was my thinking at least, hence my request for clarification! Whatever....we know they are trying to make the team better the best way they can. What more than that really needs to be said? The question is whether or not they actually achieve their goal, and in a reasonable time frame. If they turn this organization around, big time, in 2 to 3 years and things keep getting better...who cares what individual moves they make or who gets traded/retained/drafted, etc. A good team is a good team. Who cares what the names on it are!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I wonder what he will say when they cut him after season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I think everyone realizes why Dareus is still here. It really isn't hard to understand. And I think everyone knows that I'm right about Dareus........so the fat AIN'T cut......is that hard for you to understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 What if he has bad vision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I really think this could be Dareus's last year in Buffalo. I think after March 1st next year, his cap hit if traded isn't that bad. This will definitely be Dareus and Kyle's last year here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I really think this could be Dareus's last year in Buffalo. I think after March 1st next year, his cap hit if traded isn't that bad. Most likely........but a lot can change in a matter of months wrt how players are viewed and their attitudes. See Shady as an example........unfocused and miserable in 2015.......head on straight in 2016. Countless examples. Bills best hope is that he matures.........it happens. This is why the Sammy deal was so stupid.........they may not have loved his initial attitude but he's a very young player with a world of talent who is LIKELY to grow up quite a bit over the next couple seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted September 8, 2017 Author Share Posted September 8, 2017 And I think everyone knows that I'm right about Dareus........so the fat AIN'T cut......is that hard for you to understand? Honestly, I have only been here since March and nothing you have posted has really caught my attention as being worthwhile. I'll look for you more often going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I really think this could be Dareus's last year in Buffalo. I think after March 1st next year, his cap hit if traded isn't that bad. Unless he straightens up and plays to his potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Dareus if traded 14.2 mil cap hit vs. 16.5 mil if kept. If cut - we still owe him 3 roster bonuses, and 3 workout bonuses so its closer to 22 if cut. Edited September 8, 2017 by dneveu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 This will definitely be Dareus and Kyle's last year here. I'm not sure about Dareus; the time to dump his fat ass is after next year....well, from a cap perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Dareus is still very talented. I'll wait to see him on the field in a scheme he's actually suited for before I proclaim him to be "fat" that needs to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Unless he straightens up and plays to his potential. Well there's that too! Don't see it happening, but it could. Would be nice to see him return to his rightful position of best player on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan boy '92 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Wonder how much Watkins fit into his vision. Or was it just the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Good for you Lorenzo. Lorenzo is a very smart guy, amazing after all these years it clicked for him on Defense (as opposed to special teams). Hope it was not a one year wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Most likely........but a lot can change in a matter of months wrt how players are viewed and their attitudes. See Shady as an example........unfocused and miserable in 2015.......head on straight in 2016. Countless examples. Bills best hope is that he matures.........it happens. This is why the Sammy deal was so stupid.........they may not have loved his initial attitude but he's a very young player with a world of talent who is LIKELY to grow up quite a bit over the next couple seasons. People shouldn't be so sure about a cut of Dareus. He is a great player when motivated, and this is a good system for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 And I think everyone knows that I'm right about Dareus........so the fat AIN'T cut......is that hard for you to understand? Yes, thanks for informing us that Dareus is a problem...never would've guessed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PABillsfan23 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I really think this could be Dareus's last year in Buffalo. I think after March 1st next year, his cap hit if traded isn't that bad. Good luck finding a team willing to give up something for his contract and discipline issues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Yes, thanks for informing us that Dareus is a problem...never would've guessed... You are welcome......and I am sorry that you've missed this wrt Dareus.....glad I could help. The point is that credit for something as unimpressive as "cutting the fat" is not even deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I like Zo XoXo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elroy16 Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 This will definitely be Dareus and Kyle's last year here. Why Kyle? Because he retires? Kyle is literally the exact kind of player they want on this team. Works his ass off, does his job, and is almost always available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 What does "cut the fat" mean in this context? I take it as removing teammates who were not putting in the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 (edited) Most likely........but a lot can change in a matter of months wrt how players are viewed and their attitudes. See Shady as an example........unfocused and miserable in 2015.......head on straight in 2016. Countless examples. Bills best hope is that he matures.........it happens. This is why the Sammy deal was so stupid.........they may not have loved his initial attitude but he's a very young player with a world of talent who is LIKELY to grow up quite a bit over the next couple seasons. Shady wasn't miserable and unfocused in 2015. He was hurt. He missed 4 total games and didn't finish two games he started. He still had nearly 900 yards on the ground. Edited September 8, 2017 by Royale with Cheese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 It's clear that he was talking about culture change and that he is buying into what McD is doing. He's a team leader and that's why he is invaluable for a new coach who is trying to set a precedent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Shady wasn't miserable and unfocused in 2015. He was hurt. He missed 4 total games but and didn't finish two games he started. He still had nearly 900 yards on the ground. Oh his heart and head were most definitely in Philly all year.......and when Chip Kelly bent him over and showed him who was boss after hyping himself to destroy him in that matchup all year that actually helped him a lot, IMO.........he bottomed out the next week......12 carries for 24 yards and busted his knee.......and that offseason he actually got some perspective. Admitted he was leaving plays on the field all year........bought into the system.......and with a little help from Anthony Lynn he righted himself after mediocre production had become his norm for two years because of selfish play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 It's clear that he was talking about culture change and that he is buying into what McD is doing. He's a team leader and that's why he is invaluable for a new coach who is trying to set a precedent. That's why he was brought back and why Wood was extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 People shouldn't be so sure about a cut of Dareus. He is a great player when motivated, and this is a good system for him. I agree completely. But if he's dumped and replaced with a veteran turd Sean will immediately be given credit by a very vocal part of the fanbase for trimming more fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Oh his heart and head were most definitely in Philly all year.......and when Chip Kelly bent him over and showed him who was boss after hyping himself to destroy him in that matchup all year that actually helped him a lot, IMO.........he bottomed out the next week......12 carries for 24 yards and busted his knee.......and that offseason he actually got some perspective. Admitted he was leaving plays on the field all year........bought into the system.......and with a little help from Anthony Lynn he righted himself after mediocre production had become his norm for two years because of selfish play. I don't agree with any of this at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 This will definitely be Dareus and Kyle's last year here. Then what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 That's why he was brought back and why Wood was extended. I would think so. Anyone who has been reading these articles on Beane and McD that go into their line of thinking shouldn't be surprised of the makeup of players that they are assembling. Dareus is the outlier, he is so supremely talented and they have such a huge contract that it's difficult to trade him at this point that the leash that is provided to Dareus is much longer than most other players. My hopes are that Dareus can get his **** together so that he could be a viable consistent disrupting force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Then what? I think that's going to be our top priority next year after packaging picks to move up and take a QB. I have no idea what to think about Washington if he can step up or not. Maybe, just maybe, Kyle Williams stays one more year because he sees promise in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I don't agree with any of this at all. I wonder what McDermott would think about the McCoy that called his coach a racist for trading him.....kissed the Eagle a mid-field pre-game and then avoided the media after the game and didn't return back to Buffalo with the team after a loss that was devastating to their postseason hopes? I think he's changed........but if you don't......that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I'm hopeful Dareus is going to come around. He had an opportunity to throw a fit after being sent home from Philly but reports are he spoke with McDermott and Frazier and was contrite and taking responsibility. He has the potential to be a Wall of Fame player in Buffalo, if not a Hall of Famer, and I hope he knows that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 I wonder what McDermott would think about the McCoy that called his coach a racist for trading him.....kissed the Eagle a mid-field pre-game and then avoided the media after the game and didn't return back to Buffalo with the team after a loss that was devastating to their postseason hopes? I think he's changed........but if you don't......that's your opinion and you are welcome to it. Everyone's entitled to his/her opinion. Just like you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 8, 2017 Share Posted September 8, 2017 Everyone's entitled to his/her opinion. Just like you are. Exactly.......thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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