billsfan_34 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Not a chance- hes the 2nd best back on the team and is young. Runs hard between the tackles too and has good vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yes, they are. To the OP, No Williams isnt next. He has bought into the new system and worked his but off and earned his spot So many cliches this off-season....fits the scheme, high character, trust the process and now bought in to the new system. Whatever happened to just being a good football player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just wondering, are there serious substantiated speculations that JW could be "next"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Just wondering, are there serious substantiated speculations that JW could be "next"? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Can we dispense with the hyperbole: Lesean McCoy - Top 3 running back, likely future HoFer Cordy Glenn - Above average LT Richie Incognito - Perennial pro bowl guard Eric Wood - Severely underrated here Tyrod Taylor - Say what you want about him, but analytic sites call him vastly underrated, 47 tds to 15 ints (how many better have we had since Kelly, really) Marcell Dareus - Sure he's got off-field issues, but when active he's one of the best DTs in the league Kyle Williams - Ok, he's 34, but has the perennial pro bowler slowed down? Jerry Hughes - Has had off years, but inarguably talented Shaq Lawson - Considered by many to go as high as 11th last year in draft Lorenzo Alexander - A ton of tackles, and third in the league in sacks Tre'Davious White - Extremely promising rookie Zay Jones - All-time NCAA Div I season and career leader in receptions I'd also argue that Preston Brown is looking as he did in his rookie season, John Miller was PFF's most improved, Dion Dawkins had a hell of a spring, and Jordan Matthews has 200 more yards than Sammy in the same amount of time (is he the same potential talent, not by a longshot, but on a run-first team that led the league in rushing by 15 ypg, he's not nothing), and Charles Clay, while underwhelming so far, is not untalented. Could this team have a disastrous year? Sure, but I don't really get this sudden rush to declare them one of the worst in a sea of truly awful teams this year. On paper, this looks like a team that should hover around the same .500 they do every year, and who could have an influx of talent in the upcoming years. Sometimes these teams catch lightning in a bottle, or something clicks. I mostly love what McDermott's been doing (save Ducasse-Miller battle) and am going into the season with an open mind. However, to call this a low talent team is simply absurd. Essentially every team has a couple top draft picks, so pretty much a wash when comparing talent levels right now And that leaves what is a pretty underwhelming list by NFL standards. It certainly isn't as impressive as it once felt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 After reviewing moves to me Jonathan Williams is next out door at 1BD. Played late Thursday. Kept every back but UB kid. Dallas obvious partner. He's in line for 10 carries per game this season with a healthy McCoy and will be the starter if Shady goes down. It's called the 4th pre-season game...they don't play people they need for the regular season unless required or strongly desired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 This thread is pure gold. Gold I tell you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I fell like this current team is lacking in the talent department. The talent hasn't been this low since the Dicky J & Chris Kelsey days. That's what McDermott wants. 100% lunchpail guys. "Outworking" people and watching tape to correct mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 J Will is safe. This is will be his breakout year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thurst44 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Essentially every team has a couple top draft picks, so pretty much a wash when comparing talent levels right now And that leaves what is a pretty underwhelming list by NFL standards. It certainly isn't as impressive as it once felt Felt is the key word there. That still seems like a lot of talent and I don't think it is as underwhelming as you give it credit. These are the players we know: they are our players, so we'll either overestimate them or take them for granted. I doubt if you looked at the Falcons this time last year with all their first and second year players, you would have expected all that much from them. Let's see how the season plays out. I honestly don't get the feeling that this team is particularly any worse than last year's. Also, this whole scenario plays out every year where they get predicted to be awful for no apparent reason and they're usually mediocre. I'm excited for this season and have nothing to lose believing in this team. As for the draft picks, they were players I was hoping they would take, so I like the picks. Then again, I also wanted them to take Darby and Watkins at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Ugh! How about this one, which I kind of really like: McCoy and Dareus for a number one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 All of Whaley's picks will be met with Fire and Fury!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artmalibu Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Yea, because they traded a 4/5th CB to get some potential help for the offense!!! Looks to me that wining games this year IS important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 This thread is pure gold. Gold I tell you! ...or possibly bitcoins. (But NOT meadcoins.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Essentially every team has a couple top draft picks, so pretty much a wash when comparing talent levels right now And that leaves what is a pretty underwhelming list by NFL standards. It certainly isn't as impressive as it once felt The post you quoted said "hovering around ,500 like every year" - in response to yet another hyperbolic whiner calling this team the worst talent since the Jauron days - (odd since Jauron also went 7-9 every year). Noone is saying they are top of the heap - they're the same middle of the pack talent wise they have been for years - defensively they were crazy good 3 years ago by Ryan screwed that up. I don't blame Whaley for that - he was giving his coach (that he didn't choose) the players the coach said he needed to succeed. McBeane are just cleaning up Ryan's mess. THE ENTIRE 2016 SECONDARY IS GONE - that's not about trading away talent - they weren't great last year - it's about swapping out guys Ryan picked for his Man-heavy scheme for the Zone players McDermott needs. Every regime does that - but they've managed to add draft picks while doing the conversion - that's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNubbins Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I sure hope not. He's a bruiser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 OP - I would change the title of the thread and then just mention J Will in your post. I think the sentiment is there. They have traded away a lot of young starting talent or presumed starters. Who's next and why is this happening is a valid thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 I fell like this current team is lacking in the talent department. The talent hasn't been this low since the Dicky J & Chris Kelsey days. You're not paying attention, McDermott clearly stated they are not interested in talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Why hasn't Whaley found another GM job if he's so good at team building and scouting QB's. Not only do I never see Whaley as a GM again I don't even think a team would hire him as a scout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 3, 2017 Share Posted September 3, 2017 Why hasn't Whaley found another GM job if he's so good at team building and scouting QB's. Not only do I never see Whaley as a GM again I don't even think a team would hire him as a scout. No GM jobs have opened since his firing other than KC and CAR? You go too far as if the man has no eye for talent at all when there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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