Dragonborn10 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Wow he looks 20+ pounds lighter in this pic. http://buffalonews.com/2017/07/29/slimmed-shaq-lawson-wreaking-havoc-early-training-camp-bills/ Says he is weighing 268 and played last year at 275. He looked closer to 295 last year. This is great news. He looked more like a DT last year than an OLB. He should be a terror at DE. Our entire DL should bounce back in a big way from the Ryan disaster. Cheers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He looks great. Hope his hammy doesn't get tweaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) He looks great. Hope his hammy doesn't get tweaked. mmmm...you're not kidding- very sexy...oh wait, that's not what you meant?....nevermind, carry on...nothing to see here... Edited July 30, 2017 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 He wants it..... nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I view Shaq as another 1st round pick this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 So that would make him and Hughes roughly the same weight This is probably the first healthy offseason he has had in years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Best def line in the league if marcell is healthy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsmovinup Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Really liked this pick when they made it. Shaq appears to have the talent AND the intangibles. Strong work ethic. High motor on game day. Tremendous passion for the game. I think he gets to ten plus sacks this year. Hes my kind of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 kudos to Shaq on the dedication Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 I view Shaq as another 1st round pick this year. That's the truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Thankfully SL is a 4-3 DE who was miscast as a 304 OLB. My concern is for Ragland (who could be considered an extra 2nd round pick), who played WLB in a 3-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 PITTSFORD -- Maybe Rex Ryan and Doug Whaley just thought they were smarter than everyone else. What other explanation could there be for why the Buffalo Bills' former head coach and general manager invested a first-round draft pick in Shaq Lawson last year only to change his position? "Yeah, that was kind of odd," Lawson said after the Bills wrapped up their third practice of training camp at St. John Fisher College. "It really was. I knew I wasn't a fit for that defense. They thought I was. I just tried it out. I wasn't very comfortable." Interesting... hopefully we see a totally different Shaq this season. Freaking Rex. Forced a very good, simple 4-3 defense to play a waaayyyyy over-complicated 3-4 defense that didn't really fit many of the defensive players. Then when they get a chance to draft a guy in the 1st, they pick another player who doesn't fit their scheme... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 PITTSFORD -- Maybe Rex Ryan and Doug Whaley just thought they were smarter than everyone else. What other explanation could there be for why the Buffalo Bills' former head coach and general manager invested a first-round draft pick in Shaq Lawson last year only to change his position? "Yeah, that was kind of odd," Lawson said after the Bills wrapped up their third practice of training camp at St. John Fisher College. "It really was. I knew I wasn't a fit for that defense. They thought I was. I just tried it out. I wasn't very comfortable." Interesting... hopefully we see a totally different Shaq this season. Freaking Rex. Forced a very good, simple 4-3 defense to play a waaayyyyy over-complicated 3-4 defense that didn't really fit many of the defensive players. Then when they get a chance to draft a guy in the 1st, they pick another player who doesn't fit their scheme... Had he kept Schwartz, Rex and that 4-3 wide 9 defense would have easily made the playoffs. Mario probably is still on the team and playing well. No less than 3 high draft picks could have been used on safeties, QB's, and TE's. And Rex would almost assuredly still be the HC. He was never that bad with clock management. He made some bad decision before the half and attempting some FG's that were not likely to be made. But all in all had the defense been maintained, Rex is still here. All that fat bastard had to do was add in a few exotic blitz packages to run 3-5 times per game. But no he has to switch everything and make our elite DL look and play horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Hmmm... A tad more nimble too, I'd say... Be dangerous if he got a little bit more technique... Can't wait 'til we have Dareus next to Da'Ron Payne, plus a veteran, well-oiled, Lawson collapsing the edge.... Ugh! -Gonna be so sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Best def line in the league if marcell is healthy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I am tempering my emotions, but..... : ) kudos to Shaq on the dedication Yessir ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Does this mean people are gonna stop calling him slow and bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Yet another indictment of Rex, forcing a square peg into a round hole because he doesn't want to adjust his wonderful "scheme." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan17 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Does this mean people are gonna stop calling him slow and bustUnfortunately, probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Yet another indictment of Rex, forcing a square peg into a round hole because he doesn't want to adjust his wonderful "scheme." Actually it's an indictment of Whaley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 Actually it's an indictment of Whaley... isnt it better to draft bpa than for need or position? Its the coaches fault for not using his players right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 isnt it better to draft bpa than for need or position? Its the coaches fault for not using his players right I'd agree with you. The good coaches adjust their scheme to suit the players they have. Rex Ryan does the opposite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 "I knew I wasn't a fit for that defense" I don't like hearing him say that. Just take responsibility for your play last year. I find it unprofessional to blame the guy(s) who left...just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 "I knew I wasn't a fit for that defense" I don't like hearing him say that. Just take responsibility for your play last year. I find it unprofessional to blame the guy(s) who left...just my opinion. You dont even know the context of how that was asked Freddie? Reporter "do you feel that last year was not a good scheme fit for you" Player "responds to question" That could have been the way it went down correct? Its not like he was complaning last year while the season was going on correct? What if he is just telling the truth in response to a media question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 30, 2017 Author Share Posted July 30, 2017 You dont even know the context of how that was asked Freddie? Reporter "do you feel that last year was not a good scheme fit for you" Player "responds to question" That could have been the way it went down correct? Its not like he was complaning last year while the season was going on correct? What if he is just telling the truth in response to a media question? Agreed. I like it when athletes are honest. He has a body frame perfect for a 4-3 DE. He never played OLB in college. Still he was fat and slow last year. He had shoulder surgery not knee surgery. He could have shown up in shape and 20 or more pounds lighter than he did even with the shoulder injury. But past is past. They need this kid to be a star. Play fast and get to the QB just like Mario said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Agreed. I like it when athletes are honest. He has a body frame perfect for a 4-3 DE. He never played OLB in college. Still he was fat and slow last year. He had shoulder surgery not knee surgery. He could have shown up in shape and 20 or more pounds lighter than he did even with the shoulder injury. But past is past. They need this kid to be a star. Play fast and get to the QB just like Mario said. He was a rookie learning a new position, coming off shoulder surgery and who missed all of training camp and half the season. He deserved some slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Actually it's an indictment of Whaley... No, it's not. Whaley drafted him because Rex wanted him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 No, it's not. Whaley drafted him because Rex wanted him. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 You dont even know the context of how that was asked Freddie? Reporter "do you feel that last year was not a good scheme fit for you" Player "responds to question" That could have been the way it went down correct? Its not like he was complaning last year while the season was going on correct? What if he is just telling the truth in response to a media question? He would've been more honest by saying that he just sucked last year. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Had he kept Schwartz, Rex and that 4-3 wide 9 defense would have easily made the playoffs. Mario probably is still on the team and playing well. No less than 3 high draft picks could have been used on safeties, QB's, and TE's. And Rex would almost assuredly still be the HC. He was never that bad with clock management. He made some bad decision before the half and attempting some FG's that were not likely to be made. But all in all had the defense been maintained, Rex is still here. All that fat bastard had to do was add in a few exotic blitz packages to run 3-5 times per game. But no he has to switch everything and make our elite DL look and play horrible. Except everyone was out of shape, undisciplined, and unprepared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 If he becomes an explosive pass rusher in the Suggs model, I'll be surprised and psyched - will happily eat crow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 (edited) It's hard to know what to make of reports that Lawson is beating Dawkins and Mills in the pass rush because Mills is a relatively weak pass protector and Dawkins is a rookie. It could be that Lawson is a better pass rusher than people thought or it could be that the tackles are worse than people thought. Hopefully it's the former but we won't know until they line up against some other teams. Edited August 2, 2017 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 To be fair, "I felt uncomfortable" and "if I was healthy and went all in on the change I still couldn't have excelled in the role" are not the same thing. As a college kid coming to the NFL and playing a new position--- it would be strange if he didn't have comfort issues. That said, I'm happy he's back in a 43 even if I don't think it's a magic fix all forvthe defense where we shoot right into the top 5 for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 He would've been more honest by saying that he just sucked last year. Period. You honestly expect a player to do that.....seriously think about what you are saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Actually it's an indictment of Whaley... I wouldn't be surprised if Rex wasn't calling for both Lawson and Ragland. Maybe Whaley agreed or maybe he didn't but no doubt Rex had a big influence over that draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I wouldn't be surprised if Rex wasn't calling for both Lawson and Ragland. Maybe Whaley agreed or maybe he didn't but no doubt Rex had a big influence over that draft. It was totally Rex call. Whaley did his job as a GM and got the players his coaches wanted. We had a dysfunctional organization. Whaley didn't even get to pick his own head coach. He should have realized Rex was a clown and picked his own guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 It was totally Rex call. Whaley did his job as a GM and got the players his coaches wanted. We had a dysfunctional organization. Whaley didn't even get to pick his own head coach. He should have realized Rex was a clown and picked his own guys. That actually is not the job of a GM, and that's why Whaley is no longer a GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Really liked this pick when they made it. Shaq appears to have the talent AND the intangibles. Strong work ethic. High motor on game day. Tremendous passion for the game. I think he gets to ten plus sacks this year. Hes my kind of player. Mcdermott kinda guy, before we had Mcdermott. That actually is not the job of a GM, and that's why Whaley is no longer a GM. You should just be... scouting and getting good players. It's hard to know what to make of reports that Lawson is beating Dawkins and Mills in the pass rush because Mills is a relatively weak pass protector and Dawkins is a rookie. It could be that Lawson is a better pass rusher than people thought or it could be that the tackles are worse than people thought. Hopefully it's the former but we won't know until they line up against some other teams. It's his first camp too. You work on technique and fundamentals in camp. He came mid-season into practices and was probably at least somewhat focused on where he needed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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