CommonCents Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I agree that some of those can't be answered. All I can say is that he was able to handle No. 1 WR targets for the final 9 games of 2015, so I would guess that yes, he can do so when he's healthy. I don't care at all about his social media blow-up; he's a kid. I would hope, however, that he's not messing around with activities that the team docs are against. In his 9 games of getting targeted like a 1 he shined but he also wore his foot down and led to the stress fracture if we are to believe the timeline that we were given for the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I believe Watkins is a tremendous talent, but there is no denying that he has had trouble staying healthy. And it is not just one type of injury as he has suffered from a bunch of different ailments. Some he has been able to play thru while others he has not. But when fully healthy, he is elite. Beane/MC must (A) Determine whether Watkins can stay healthy. This is difficult but they will need to rely on medical opinions and talk to a variety of persons before they make an educated guess on what the future will hold and (B) Even if you believe Watkins can stay healthy, what percentage of the cap is a #1 elite wr worth. Watkins has 1 year left on his deal before he will want to be paid like a #1. If he has a very good year then the Bills may be looking at paying Watkins 16-18 million per year for a long term deal (Similar to what Beckham wants). Even the franchise tag will cost the Bills about 16m for a year. That is big $ for any wr. What the Bills decision makers will have to determine is do they want to allot that kind of $ for a wr. Or do they believe the $ should be spent elsewhere on the defensive and offensive lines. Their philosophy will determine what they decide to do. This is not an easy decision to make. I really like Watkins as a player but trading him now may not be a bad move depending on what the return would be. Because if the Bills will be unwilling to pay him 16-18m per year they may be better off getting assets for him now rather than letting him walk and hoping for a comp. pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Let's keep this discussion going, knowing what we now know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Let's keep this discussion going, knowing what we now know. Well if I'm honest, I think they should have picked up his option or traded him before the decision expired. Have to think Watkins with 2 years on his deal is worth more than Watkins with 1. You get elite talent on the cheap for 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Let's keep this discussion going, knowing what we now know. I'm shocked no word of an imminent deal leaked out. Was this the best deal Beane could put together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm shocked no word of an imminent deal leaked out. Was this the best deal Beane could put together? I don't think he could get any higher than a 2nd round pick + a player CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Well if I'm honest, I think they should have picked up his option or traded him before the decision expired. Have to think Watkins with 2 years on his deal is worth more than Watkins with 1. You get elite talent on the cheap for 2 years. That seems like quite a mistake. They must not have thought they were going to trade him at the time, but you have to have that foresight right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Boom Yolo with the Miss Cleo routine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Let's keep this discussion going, knowing what we now know. Trading Sammy Watkins!? No way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I don't think he could get any higher than a 2nd round pick + a player CBF Nice call dude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) Not sure how much credence to give this radio station but it's out there https://sportstalk360.com/2017/05/26/buffalo-bills-receiving-sammy-watkins-trade-offers/ Nice catch Yo, and call CBF Edited August 12, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 I don't think he could get any higher than a 2nd round pick + a player CBF We traded Watkins at a time with likely his lowest trade value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 We traded Watkins at a time with likely his lowest trade value. It's shocking; right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 There is a difference between them - There were zero questions about Lynch & Peters dedication. Both got screwed by Bills in contract or playing roles. Sammy's issue has been immaturity (confirmed by Tyrod), but also his dedication to the team in the offseason. Playing pick up hoops on a twice surgically repaired foot, before you're medically cleared by the team, is a sure sign that he can't be 100% reliable That's a pretty flippant way to use the term "immature" what exactly is OBJ then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 That's a pretty flippant way to use the term "immature" what exactly is OBJ then? An idiot. But an idiot that manages to stay on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Glad I didn't say anything stupid in here when this was originally brought up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiserplayer Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 BarelyNY called this in early May "Now that the Bills decision to decline his option has had some time to sink in I hope people understand that this isn't some motivating tactic, it's the first step in parting ways after the season. It's a shame, but it is what it is." I also think this is what was motivating us to sign Maclin at a mid range #2 contract and let him be our number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Not sure how much credence to give this radio station but it's out therehttps://sportstalk360.com/2017/05/26/buffalo-bills-receiving-sammy-watkins-trade-offers/ Nailed it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Rumor was true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 (edited) That's a pretty flippant way to use the term "immature" what exactly is OBJ then? Ask Tyrod then, since he's the one who brought up Sammy's new found dedication and maturity. Edited August 12, 2017 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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