jeffismagic Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 If McDermott is as good as Belichick none of us will care. It's way too early to know either way, and he started out as a scout so there is some background there. I don't see it. You can hope for that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 @OptimumScouting: I've been told Whaley was maybe the ONLY person in #Bills scouting/coaching staff that didn't value Tyrod as QB. Every coach/scout loved him Did Whaley end his Bills career by treating EJ Manuel like a better player than Tyrod Taylor? Sure seems like it. It has been clear for some time that Whaley felt this way despite being completely wrong. His qb vision killed him. Drafting a stiff like Cardale (this is a prediction, yes) doesn't reflect well on his qb eye either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Here is the story of Bills poaching Carolinas pick http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/nfl-blog/article147558349.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFinkle Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/138045-beane-was-the-mole/ Beane was the mole, per Carolina retards who think they know football but don't because they're carolina panther fans and seriously among the dumbest in football iq aaaaaaaaand... their thread talking about losing him: http://www.carolinahuddle.com/boards/topic/138039-bills-courting-brandon-beane-richardson-would-be-ticked/ i hope we smack the **** out of these idiots. i cannot stand their fanbase As a transplant who has been in Carolina for 16 years, the Panthers don't exactly have the best draft history. If we jumped their picks with the help of Beano, they should thank us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 can't possibly get any worse than DW. Yes it can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) The biggest thing to take from all of this is never having to listen to Whaley do another interview again. Guy couldn't speak to save his life. Edited April 30, 2017 by Bangarang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtbag Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 thoughts and prayers for both doug and carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I wonder how much heat the Pegula's would have to take from both the local, and more importantly national media, before they realize they need to get the heck out of the way? IMO they have used up all the goodwill they had built up when first acquiring the franchise(s). To have this upheaval with both team simultaneously is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 This is exactly why FO fires wait until after draft. ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) 4/30/17, 8:00 AM Bills did what Washington should have done: Keep G.M. through the draft so he can't share his research and evaluations with others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Trading out of the #10 pick in '17 to acquire an additional #1 in 2018 should calm those concerns. I don't see that. It means the Sean didn't see an elite talent at 10 for his defense. Maybe if Adams was there he picks him. If you see a tier of players that are similar you can trade back and he did take the cornerback anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Here is the story of Bills poaching Carolinas pick http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/nfl-blog/article147558349.html I love it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 For those of you complaining about a possible inverted structure between the coach in the GM, you haven't been listening to Terry. Terry likes flat organizations built upon consensus. Whomever gets hired as GM will have to get along very well with Sean and they both will be tasked to work together, not in separate silos. From what I understand Doug and Sean worked together, but perhaps Sean felt more comfortable with his own guy moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reed83HOF Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yes it can We could get Rusty again.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Folks in here claiming people won't want to work for the Pegulas...dude gives out 5year guaranteed contracts with the willingness to spend whatever money is necessary..for both teams. If you have confidence in yourself that with resources you can get the job done..and either GM or coach...you will be lining up to take job with either franchise. Agreed... but only if you don't meet Russ before signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 The biggest thing to take from all of this is never having to listen to Whaley do another interview again. Guy couldn't speak to save his life. Yeah, cuz speaking skills are a crucial prerequisite in football..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 For those of you complaining about a possible inverted structure between the coach in the GM, you haven't been listening to Terry. Terry likes flat organizations built upon consensus. Whomever gets hired as GM will have to get along very well with Sean and they both will be tasked to work together, not in separate silos. From what I understand Doug and Sean worked together, but perhaps Sean felt more comfortable with his own guy moving forward. Seems this straightforward and simple to me! Now let's get someone with an eye for talent in here, and make this thing happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Yeah, cuz speaking skills are a crucial prerequisite in football..... Because that's not even close to the point I was trying to make........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 @AdamSchefter Bills' HC Sean McDermott had taken over this team in every way. Doug Whaley had been phased out, well before today. Now it's just official. No man adam schefter is wrong. Because I have been reading on this board "insiders" telling me otherwise. Thats why I dont believe message board insiders. Everyone could have seen this from a mile away. Gms arent relieved of their speaking duties because owners love you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 I'm not criticizing the firing of Whaley---I'm applauding the owner. The firing of Whaley isn't an act of desperation, far from it. It is a decisive act to bring order and coherency to an amorphous and stagnating organization. The Whaley approach was a patchwork approach to building a roster. There was no long term coherent strategy. Decisions were made on a day to day survival mode mentality. I'm far from declaring McDermott as the answer to this flagging franchise. What I can say about him is that he has a blueprint and a vision for the direction he wants to go. You can agree with it or not but there is at least a thought process to what he is doing. The past generation, this organization has been a dismal failure. It had no identity other than being mediocre and boring. The goal was simply to be respectable with no belief that it could be a serious challenging team. Personnel decisions were made on an ad hoc basis with the mind-set to fill holes as they popped up. While teams such as the Pats plan years in advance for replacing players when their expiring contracts were imminent the Bills would scramble to respond as if it was a surprise. The Pegulas have made some big mistakes and it is fair to criticize them. On the other hand they are learning as they gain experience as owners and are not afraid to act when it is called for. Very well stated although I will reserve my opinion on Terry Pegula, it's still too early to tell but he seems too emotional for my liking. They looked down the hall for a GM. I love this line, it's so true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddieJizzle22 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Now I don't know how to feel about this draft...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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