jethro_tull Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Joe BannerVerified account @JoeBanner13 10m10 minutes ago give Pegula's a lot of credit. Mistakes in the NFL matter most if you refuse to admit them. They have done well upgrading their top people yes sir, right on the money.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 @RapSheet Expect those close with Sean McDermott from #Panthers -- possibly lieutenants Brandon Beane & Don Gregory -- to get looks as GM candidates So, coach McAgenda does have a plan and the process involves undermining the person responsible for your hiring. Beautiful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 hogan was more than just another guy- he was the guy that was immediately transformed into productivity by the kingpin in our division and rubbed it into the bills faces. same thing will likely happen with gilmore and gillislee. Given what we know now, letting Gilmore and Gillislee go to NE were both McDermott's calls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 You have to scratch your head that anyone who denies Doug's ability to pick up talent on the pro personnel side. That's just undeniable. probably the only thing that kept him on as long as he was.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeBanner13 name to watch in Buffalo is Brett Veach. Worked with Sean in Philly & is highly respected by Andy Reid & all the Philly people. In KC now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 What about cleveland being blocked by teams? http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/1/14/10768504/blocking-browns-from-interviewing-gm-candidates-martin-mayhewl You cannot block a GM if the Gm you are hiring is a GM. Example from San Fran If control over the roster was promised to Shanahan in order to get him to take the job at a time when everyone else had bailed, the current employers of the candidates for the G.M. job could block the move, since it wouldnt entail the typical powers of a G.M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N.Y. Orangeman Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Let's put this to bed: "Here is how NFL spokesman Greg Aiello explained the GM contact rules, which are different than the coach contact rules: "A team is not obligated to grant another team permission to discuss employment with a high-level employee (GM, president or equivalent responsibilities) under contract. For other club employees who do not fall into the category of high-level employee, they may be interviewed for a GM position."http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2014/12/what_are_the_nfl_rules_for_jets_upcoming_contact_with_coach_general_manager_candidates.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jethro_tull Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Given what we know now, letting Gilmore and Gillislee go to NE were both McDermott's calls. doubtful, especially since gilmore was on his way out all of last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 (edited) If you want someone to blame for this then it's McD.Ummmm....how about the in over his head owner(s) who agreed to this ?? Edited April 30, 2017 by LabattBlue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 hogan was more than just another guy- he was the guy that was immediately transformed into productivity by the kingpin in our division and rubbed it into the bills faces. same thing will likely happen with gilmore and gillislee. 36 vs 38 receptions. Let's not over state this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 He probably does. However, that influence may be waning. I seriously hope that's the case, but he has a knack for ingratiating himself with his superiors. He's a deeply embedded, diseased tick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 It's for real - http://buffalonews.com/2017/04/30/bills-dismiss-gm-doug-whaley-scouting-staff/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoo poonani Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 You have to scratch your head that anyone who denies Doug's ability to pick up talent on the pro personnel side. That's just undeniable. Agreed. Is it clear yet whether the pro dept is axed or stays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Now we know everything that happened this offseason is on McD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 This mish mash of Ralph Wilson and Buddy Nix left overs hasn't worked. Marrone, Pettine, Rex all trying to figure out where they fit with Whaley and Russ. This was a necessary step. McDermott (and possibly Beane) has a vision which was sorely lacking over the last five years. "Bowl Cut" was putting band aids on wounds (see Sammy as WR for EJ, Dareus contract, Shaq as a 3-4 OLB, etc). Imagine if Whaley traded up for Trubisky and gave away our 1st round pick next year?? Ugh. Nice move Terry. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Ummmm....how about the in over his head owner(s) who agreed to this ?? I wanted Whaley fired so I'm quite pleased at the moment. McD has won me over so I'm on board with whatever he wants. Never felt this way about a new HC of this team before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 doubtful, especially since gilmore was on his way out all of last season. They could have tagged him and also matched Gillislee. McDermott calls all the way. Whaley's gone and McDermott has been running the ship. He'll own both decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tipster19 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 So all the good that happened was in spite of him, all the bad was because of him. Got it, nice fair and balanced critique. I like this response, it's a good reality check. I liked a lot of what Whaley did here and still feel that he has always been all about Buffalo. With that being said there always seemed to friction and/or confusion in the FO. No leadership or a clear cut direction and while I wouldn't pin this completely on Whaley he was still a good part of it. Hopefully McDermott becomes our solution of getting on the right track. I'd like to think and say that he is but what do I know. What I do know that if he isn't then I'm screwed because I have invested over 4 decades into this franchise and I'm firmly in my back nine! Go Bills???!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 They could have tagged him and also matched Gillislee. McDermott calls all the way. Whaley's gone and McDermott has been running the ship. He'll own both decisions. Yep, you cant credit McD with retaining Tyrod, but then not associate him with the moves that followed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Well it could be. I am wondering how they're going to attract a GM candidate who is going to be subservient to a coach. Who the hell would want that situation? Yep. This is all kinda hilarious. I think DW had to go, but the timing is screwy. No worries, just give it two years til the next round of firings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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