BBills14 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 McDermott needs a Keuchly in the center of his defense. Lets get back at the Pats for stealing Gilmore. Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Did you just compare Dont'a Hightower to Luke Kuechly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Did you just compare Dont'a Hightower to Luke Kuechly? lol,that's funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills14 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 Did you just compare Dont'a Hightower to Luke Kuechly? Yes! Minus the concussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We're going to go balls to the wall to sign Adrian Peterson ... How about a backfield of Tyrod, Shady, AP, Tolbert and Demarco with a 6 man o-line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yes! Minus the concussions. Kuechly - 242 lbs, 4.58 forty, 6.92 three cone, 4.12 short shuttle, 38 inch vertical Hightower - 265 lbs, 4.68 forty, 7.55 three cone, 4.64 short shuttle, 32 inch vertical They're nothing alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Is Dante a MLB? Personally I would not be against it......he is a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Is Dante a MLB? No. He's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills14 Posted March 11, 2017 Author Share Posted March 11, 2017 No. He's not. He is an inside LB in a 3-4 Scheme. jrober38 is way too smart for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Yes! Minus the concussions. And all the roids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Kuechly - 242 lbs, 4.58 forty, 6.92 three cone, 4.12 short shuttle, 38 inch vertical Hightower - 265 lbs, 4.68 forty, 7.55 three cone, 4.64 short shuttle, 32 inch vertical They're nothing alike. Yeah but......well......I got nothin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 would be nice.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowisu80 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 No. He's not. 100% agree. Doesn't have the speed and agility to play MLB; at least not in the scheme I think we will be running . Can he play SLB? I'm not sure, but I don't think this guy is in the cards for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 How much is he asking for for? What kind of contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowisu80 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Kuechly - 242 lbs, 4.58 forty, 6.92 three cone, 4.12 short shuttle, 38 inch vertical Hightower - 265 lbs, 4.68 forty, 7.55 three cone, 4.64 short shuttle, 32 inch vertical They're nothing alike. ragland - 6'1'' 247 4.72 forty, 7.55 three cone, 4.28 short shuttle , 31.5 vert just adding this here for completeness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Maiden Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 How much is he asking for for? What kind of contract? He's probably looking for what Collins got from Cleveland.....at the very least........4/50 with 26 guarantee..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Wouldn't hate it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 ragland - 6'1'' 247 4.72 forty, 7.55 three cone, 4.28 short shuttle , 31.5 vert Black Man Can't Jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 He is an inside LB in a 3-4 Scheme. jrober38 is way too smart for me. Kuechly is a rangey, speedy MLB. Hightower is a slower thumper like Brown, Spikes, Ragland. Collins would've been the guy to pursue, IMO. Much more versatile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Kuechly is a rangey, speedy MLB. Hightower is a slower thumper like Brown, Spikes, Ragland. Collins would've been the guy to pursue, IMO. Much more versatile. Z Brown still out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwight in philly Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 McDermott needs a Keuchly in the center of his defense. Lets get back at the Pats for stealing Gilmore. Thoughts?? i think that is great thought.. why not.. i am not that football savvy on schemes and "fits".. etc.. guy seems like a beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 z brown talking to Oakland . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) Z Brown still out there I don't really like Zach. Him going into self-preservation mode halfway through the season on a prove it deal speaks to his character. Edited March 11, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Pass. Doesn't fit McDermotts scheme and would basically be a Ragland clone. No need to pay that much for another Ragland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 i think that is great thought.. why not.. i am not that football savvy on schemes and "fits".. etc.. guy seems like a beast As others have pointed out in this thread, he is not at all a fit for the 4-3. He would be a liability in the 4-3, so you would be spending a ton of coin on a guy who can't help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 If not him, then what FA linebacker out there would fit thr new D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The Bills need to get faster and more athletic at LB. Hightower is the same type of guy as Ragland and Brown. Big, plodding run stoppers who struggle in space. The Bills need a true WLB. Right now, I would expect Ragland to play MLB and Preston Brown to play SLB. Right now, we need to someone who excels in coverage. If not him, then what FA linebacker out there would fit thr new D? We need to draft someone. None of the guys in free agency fit what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We're going to go balls to the wall to sign Adrian Peterson ... How about a backfield of Tyrod, Shady, AP, Tolbert and Demarco with a 6 man o-line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowisu80 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The Bills need to get faster and more athletic at LB. Hightower is the same type of guy as Ragland and Brown. Big, plodding run stoppers who struggle in space. The Bills need a true WLB. Right now, I would expect Ragland to play MLB and Preston Brown to play SLB. Right now, we need to someone who excels in coverage. We need to draft someone. None of the guys in free agency fit what we need. the only thing i find interesting is although Ragland has a slower 40 time, he has a pretty fast 20 yard split; close to Keuchly actually . 20 yard split is probably more applicable to football than the 40; of course, his 3 cone isn't as fast, which is also correlatable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jared Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Hightower is definitely not a coverage guy. As a rookie he was pretty bad in coverage, and he has improved since then, but he is definitely only average in that regard. He is a monster coming downhill, both against the run and as a blitzer. Not a sideline to sideline pursuit guy (like a Ray Lewis or an Urlacher), so if that is what you want out of your LBs, you'd probably be overspending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 (edited) the only thing i find interesting is although Ragland has a slower 40 time, he has a pretty fast 20 yard split; close to Keuchly actually . 20 yard split is probably more applicable to football than the 40; of course, his 3 cone isn't as fast, which is also correlatable I think the 3-cone drill is arguably the most important movement drill for linebackers. In the NFL linebackers need to be agile, and you have to be able to change direction quickly. Sub 7 second three cone drills are indicative for guys who can be 3-down players in the NFL. Guys posting mid 7 second 3-cone drill times are changing direction as well as some defensive tackles. If you're running a 3-cone in the mid 7 second range, you're probably coming off the field in passing situations. Edited March 11, 2017 by jrober38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 No, we freed space for Lorenzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We're going to go balls to the wall to sign Adrian Peterson ... How about a backfield of Tyrod, Shady, AP, Tolbert and Demarco with a 6 man o-line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 I'm in favor of signing him if it means we do not have to use another premium draft pick on ILB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Z Brown still out there And we need to sign him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 Others have made the comparisons to Ragland and they fit. I would like it in the sense he can take Ragland under his wing and help him develop, but the scheme fit isn't great, especially for the price. I think you could do some interesting things formationally in a dime with Lawson - Dareus - Hughes and Hightower / Ragland filling the ILB gaps between the 3 down linemen, perfect for some zone blitz schemes, but that's not the type of defense we are setting up to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 We're going to go balls to the wall to sign Adrian Peterson ... How about a backfield of Tyrod, Shady, AP, Tolbert and Demarco with a 6 man o-line ? ....uh oh Frosty.....Peterson?.....forgot OJ could be paroled I guess......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 No chance. In our D, I think he would play the same position as LoRax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 The Bills need to get faster and more athletic at LB. Hightower is the same type of guy as Ragland and Brown. Big, plodding run stoppers who struggle in space. The Bills need a true WLB. Right now, I would expect Ragland to play MLB and Preston Brown to play SLB. Right now, we need to someone who excels in coverage. We need to draft someone. None of the guys in free agency fit what we need. Then who, in this draft, would fit what we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted March 11, 2017 Share Posted March 11, 2017 ....uh oh Frosty.....Peterson?.....forgot OJ could be paroled I guess......... Isn't he getting out in September ? ... Late season pickup ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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