Tiberius Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Wow, no mention of the Putin murders? Trump congratulates Putin on reelection, discusses ‘arms race’ Trump told reporters that he and Putin intend to meet “in the not too distant future.” Some world leaders have hesitated to congratulate Putin, since his reelection occurred in an environment of state control of much of the news media and his most prominent opponent was barred from the ballot. By Jenna Johnson and Anton Troianovski 1 hour ago 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Finally, someone said it. Former FBI Director Goes On Record: “Comey, McCabe, & Brennan All Corrupt & Everything Leads Back To Obama” (VIDEO) Original Article James Kallstrom is no joke. With nearly thirty years in the FBI, several of them as the Assistant Director, Kallstrom knows how the agency functions far more than most. So when he says there was a plot to protect Hillary Clinton from prosecution and to illegally influence the 2016 Election people should pay attention. Kallstrom goes on to call the entirety of the FBI investigation against Donald Trump completely phony. Maria Bartiromo’s own take appears very much to compliment Mr. Kallstrom’s assertions. The Deep State shenanigans run very deep and in 2016 are linked to the Obama White House. Barack Obama wanted a third term. His support-system within the FBI, DOJ, State Department, CIA, the Establishment Media, etc., wanted the same and they all broke the law in their attempt to do it. Donald Trump has managed to reveal much of it. I know that some of the lemmings here won't like the site and try to get others to chase that squirrel, but I really don't care. There is a video, watch it and it confirms what the story is saying. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 minutes ago, B-Man said: Finally, someone said it. Former FBI Director Goes On Record: “Comey, McCabe, & Brennan All Corrupt & Everything Leads Back To Obama” (VIDEO) Original Article James Kallstrom is no joke. With nearly thirty years in the FBI, several of them as the Assistant Director, Kallstrom knows how the agency functions far more than most. So when he says there was a plot to protect Hillary Clinton from prosecution and to illegally influence the 2016 Election people should pay attention. Kallstrom goes on to call the entirety of the FBI investigation against Donald Trump completely phony. Maria Bartiromo’s own take appears very much to compliment Mr. Kallstrom’s assertions. The Deep State shenanigans run very deep and in 2016 are linked to the Obama White House. Barack Obama wanted a third term. His support-system within the FBI, DOJ, State Department, CIA, the Establishment Media, etc., wanted the same and they all broke the law in their attempt to do it. Donald Trump has managed to reveal much of it. I know that some of the lemmings here won't like the site and try to get others to chase that squirrel, but I really don't care. There is a video, watch it and it confirms what the story is saying. . Please, a Rush Limbo stooge? Another self promoter coming up with some vast conspiracy. Trump has donated a million dollars to his foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 So compromised Quote President Donald Trump’s top advisers reportedly warned him against congratulating Russian President Vladimir Putin for winning re-election, with aides writing in all capital letters: “DO NOT CONGRATULATE.” The two leaders spoke by phone on Tuesday, the White House and the Kremlin said. Aides also requested that Trump mention the nerve-agent attack on a former Russian spy in the United Kingdom, which the U.S. and its allies have blamed on Russia. Trump did not mention the attack and did congratulate Putin. His congratulatory message drew rebukes on Capitol Hill, with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) saying Trump “insulted” the Russian people for congratulating Putin on winning a “sham” election. READ IT AT THE WASHINGTON POST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 If a Democratic president was caught up in something like this, the Dems would take it much more serious and as a national issue, not a partisan issue. As a whole, Dems are much more serious and rational. He/she would already be impeached Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 18 hours ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Be very careful here. It's a slippery slope. I started as a vocal Never Trump libertarian, but after beginning to begrudgingly concede to his achievements, I was compelled, by hard evidence, to begrudgingly concede to the likelihood of a targeted conspiracy against his Administration by treasonous elements within our prior government and career holdovers still entrenched; and now here I am publicly defending him on a fringe NFL fan site. I lot of people are in that boat. I met the boyfriend and friends of an acquaintance at the bar last week who are vocal libertarians. When I explained that libertarians are like agnostics they looked confused. I asked their viewpoints and what they want from the government. They were hardly libertarians and walked away from the conversation when I said I want to reduce the federal government tremendously and Trump is causing that. They insisted upon a strong federal government for foregin relations and domestic issues, a strong opportunity for individual rights which protect the minorities vs. majority, wanting fair share taxes to redistribute wealth. They literally were left speeches when I called them too stupid to realize they're either Marxist, Fascists or just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Quote Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump was infuriated after it quickly leaked that he had been directly instructed by his national security advisers in briefing materials not to congratulate Russian President Vladimir Putin on his recent election victory during their call Tuesday morning, a source familiar with the President's thinking said. Trump was fuming Tuesday night, asking his allies and outside advisers who they thought had leaked the information, noting that only a small group of staffers have access to those materials and would have known what guidance was included for the Putin call, the source said. According to the source, the incident resurfaces his long-held belief there are individuals inside his administration -- especially in the national security realm -- who are actively working to undermine him. A patriot! That's who! https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/21/politics/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-congratulations/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, garybusey said: Quote “The only foreign thing we tested was Putin,” he said. “It turns out, there’s a lot of Americans who really like this idea of a really strong authoritarian leader Yeah...they're called Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Yeah...they're called Democrats. Bull sh it. Dems didn't elect Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 “I think Putin is a criminal. What he did in Georgia, what he did in Ukraine, what he did in Baltic, what he’s done in London poisoning people with active nerve gas, that’s a criminal act. I wouldn’t have a conversation with a criminal” - Chuck Grassley, this morning One of the first times I've agreed with Chuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, garybusey said: “I think Putin is a criminal. What he did in Georgia, what he did in Ukraine, what he did in Baltic, what he’s done in London poisoning people with active nerve gas, that’s a criminal act. I wouldn’t have a conversation with a criminal” - Chuck Grassley, this morning One of the first times I've agreed with Chuck The '80s called, they want their foreign policy back. But tilting at that hypocritical windmill aside...Grassley's an idiot. If you don't converse with criminals, you don't know what they're going to do or why they're going to do it. Not terribly important when you're talking about a meth-head knocking over the local 7-11...but it starts to get rather more important when you're talking about world leaders with nuclear weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 38 minutes ago, garybusey said: “I think Putin is a criminal. What he did in Georgia, what he did in Ukraine, what he did in Baltic, what he’s done in London poisoning people with active nerve gas, that’s a criminal act. I wouldn’t have a conversation with a criminal” - Chuck Grassley, this morning One of the first times I've agreed with Chuck So you're advocating for a brand of isolationism which chooses to ignore bad actors on the geo-political stage. Care to explain the wisdom inherent to your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: So you're advocating for a brand of isolationism which chooses to ignore bad actors on the geo-political stage. Care to explain the wisdom inherent to your position? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, garybusey said: “I think Putin is a criminal. What he did in Georgia, what he did in Ukraine, what he did in Baltic, what he’s done in London poisoning people with active nerve gas, that’s a criminal act. I wouldn’t have a conversation with a criminal” - Chuck Grassley, this morning One of the first times I've agreed with Chuck So, you don't think telling Putin what you would do if he does something like interfere with our elections isn't doing your job as president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Tiberius said: As a whole, Dems are much more serious and rational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 and totally shut out of any say in what matters.... lovin it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Koko give him a break, he is a libtard. Brain not needed in their party, so they accuse the rest of Americans of not having one. Edited March 21, 2018 by njbuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Since when are Democrats serious and rational? Was when they pinned their hopes for impeachment on a porn star, without realizing it only gets them President Pence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Let's go Pence! You'd think Republicans would wise up and see him as a better option. But Republicans are Republicans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Since when are Democrats serious and rational? Was when they pinned their hopes for impeachment on a porn star, without realizing it only gets them President Pence? I think their serious rationality goes back to when they were praying that the Electoral College would defect from Trump and elect Hillary. That or 'scream helplessly at the sky' day. Edited March 21, 2018 by Koko78 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, Koko78 said: I think their serious rationality goes back to when they were praying that the Electoral College would defect from Trump and elect Hillary. That or 'scream helplessly at the sky' day. they meant well bless their hearts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 hours ago, garybusey said: Like thinking that minorities can't get an ID to vote? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, row_33 said: they meant well bless their hearts True. They also self-identify as rational and serious, so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 Quote Making a fuss is the first step. Now what? “Sen. Ben Sasse tore into President Donald Trump Wednesday for making a congratulatory call to Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling it ‘terribly ill-advised’ and urging staffers who leaked Trump’s briefing materials to resign. The Nebraska Republican, in a speech on the Senate floor, called Trump and White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ refusal to condemn Putin’s ‘sham’ election this week ‘very foolhardy’ — among the strongest statements made by a member of Trump’s own party in the aftermath of Trump’s call to the Russian president.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 20 hours ago, Koko78 said: True. They also self-identify as rational and serious, so there's that. they see every thought and emotional and thing they like as 100% hard scientific fact must be absolute hell to be under the power of a teacher or parent like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 21 hours ago, Tiberius said: Let's go Pence! You'd think Republicans would wise up and see him as a better option. But Republicans are Republicans We all know that Trump isn't leaving office and that removing him from office isn't the goal of the left until 2020. I'm afraid you're stuck with the kid from Queens for a few more years. Republicans are looking pretty smart politically actually having nominated Trump from a field of 16 candidates and pushing him over the finish line in 2016. As bad as Hillary was it would be hard to say that most of the other 15 candidates would have also defeated her. Would you agree or do you think Hillary would have been shellacked by any of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, keepthefaith said: We all know that Trump isn't leaving office and that removing him from office isn't the goal of the left until 2020. I'm afraid you're stuck with the kid from Queens for a few more years. Republicans are looking pretty smart politically actually having nominated Trump from a field of 16 candidates and pushing him over the finish line in 2016. As bad as Hillary was it would be hard to say that most of the other 15 candidates would have also defeated her. Would you agree or do you think Hillary would have been shellacked by any of them? I don't know how a Rubio-Clinton election would have gone, or Cruz or any of the others. Impossible to say. I don't think any of the other candidates would have promised impossible things or made seriously outrageous claims. Trump did run a campaign promising to do things that are not going to happen, Mexico paying for a wall, Health Care system for everyone (Actually taking it away), four percent economic growth, etc. He had no intention of seriously governing the country so he could promise anything, so ya, Hillary might have beaten a serious candidate who had plans to seriously govern the country. I don't think Dems are stuck with Trump, he's great for the Democratic party. I'd think Republicans would be better off with Pence but the backlash against Trump being removed might wreck the party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted March 22, 2018 Share Posted March 22, 2018 1 hour ago, keepthefaith said: We all know that Trump isn't leaving office and that removing him from office isn't the goal of the left until 2020. I'm afraid you're stuck with the kid from Queens for a few more years. Republicans are looking pretty smart politically actually having nominated Trump from a field of 16 candidates and pushing him over the finish line in 2016. As bad as Hillary was it would be hard to say that most of the other 15 candidates would have also defeated her. Would you agree or do you think Hillary would have been shellacked by any of them? None of the other GOPs would have stood a chance against her. Cruz wouldn't have taken a single state outside the Bible Belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 4:55 AM, Tiberius said: Making a fuss is the first step. Now what? “Sen. Ben Sasse tore into President Donald Trump Wednesday for making a congratulatory call to Russian President Vladimir Putin, calling it ‘terribly ill-advised’ and urging staffers who leaked Trump’s briefing materials to resign. The Nebraska Republican, in a speech on the Senate floor, called Trump and White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ refusal to condemn Putin’s ‘sham’ election this week ‘very foolhardy’ — among the strongest statements made by a member of Trump’s own party in the aftermath of Trump’s call to the Russian president.” At least they didn't have an election where the person that got the most votes lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 11 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: At least they didn't have an election where the person that got the most votes lost. Apples and oranges, but you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, 3rdnlng said: Apples and oranges, but you know that. I know our founding fathers and their ultimate wisdom gave the EC to us. They also gave us a horribly worded second amendment. But come on, elections 101, the person with the most votes wins. Unless wealthy land owners are making the rules. George and Thomas and Ben etc. did a lot of good things with the constitution etc, but they also messed up on a few IMHO. But heck, nobody's perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: I know our founding fathers and their ultimate wisdom gave the EC to us. They also gave us a horribly worded second amendment. But come on, elections 101, the person with the most votes wins. Unless wealthy land owners are making the rules. George and Thomas and Ben etc. did a lot of good things with the constitution etc, but they also messed up on a few IMHO. But heck, nobody's perfect. Well I guess this Republic that is a representative democracy, just can't compare with that wonderful democracy that is Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 4 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I know our founding fathers and their ultimate wisdom gave the EC to us. They also gave us a horribly worded second amendment. But come on, elections 101, the person with the most votes wins. Unless wealthy land owners are making the rules. Not Elections 101. Democracy 101. When you get to 200-level Democracy, though, you discover that it's pretty much a **** show. Which is why we live in a democratic republic. It's less that the rulemakers were "wealthy landowners" than they were classically educated and knew things like "How Athenian democracy worked and didn't work." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Just now, DC Tom said: Not Elections 101. Democracy 101. When you get to 200-level Democracy, though, you discover that it's pretty much a **** show. Which is why we live in a democratic republic. It's less that the rulemakers were "wealthy landowners" than they were classically educated and knew things like "How Athenian democracy worked and didn't work." Thanks. I understand the argument. A couple of questions though. Are we the only 200 level democracy? Are there any others where the person with the most votes can still lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/22/2018 at 12:39 PM, row_33 said: None of the other GOPs would have stood a chance against her. Cruz wouldn't have taken a single state outside the Bible Belt. Cruz pry wouldn't have won, but if he did I'm pretty sure he'd veto a $1.3 trillion dollar spending bill that includes funding for planned parenthood and sanctuary cities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Cruz pry wouldn't have won, but if he did I'm pretty sure he'd veto a $1.3 trillion dollar spending bill that includes funding for planned parenthood and sanctuary cities. Amen Doc, Horrible move by Trump. But what do I know ?..............the lemmings here think I;m a Trumbot.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly101 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Now that the left got this omnibus bill passed the trump russia thing will go away quietly. hopefully the 2020 gop candidate doesn't turn out to be a fraud too. Trump is done, going down as the softest president ever, punked by the likes of schumer and pelosi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Thanks. I understand the argument. A couple of questions though. Are we the only 200 level democracy? Are there any others where the person with the most votes can still lose? No, most are 300-level democracies, that parlimentarian and don't elect heads of state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/russia_report_findings_and_recommendations.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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