ricojes Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Buffalo Bills tailgaters to appear on Viceland's popular TV show 'Dead Set on Life' http://buffalonews.com/2016/12/20/buffalo-bills-tailgaters-appear-vices-popular-tv-show-dead-set-life/ Edited December 21, 2016 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) This was shot at the Bills home opener which just so happened to be the TBDAHOT. And yep a couple of TBDers are in the promo. Can you pick any of them out? Edited December 21, 2016 by Hammered a Lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Damn Hammer, you run a tight ship it appears! I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Edited December 21, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Yeah, you probably are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Yeah, you probably are. Is it something I have to witness to understand how awesome it is? I've been to the lot- everything else about his setup is cool- but you're saying the ketchup and mustard thing is not weird at all, it's only awesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Is it something I have to witness to understand how awesome it is? I've been to the lot- everything else about his setup is cool- but you're saying the ketchup and mustard thing is not weird at all, it's only awesome? I know Kenny fairly well, spending time with him on Saturday's, Sundays, after everyone has left the lot we do a cool down/reflection of the day at the BTI and I did his roof on his house. Kenny does the K&M for the tailgaters. They would be disappointed if he stop it and Kenny is to nice of a guy to do that. The K&M leds into a group rally with the Bills Shout song playing and the tailgating family dancing. Kenny confided to me last game. A woman came up to him, placed a small container of her husband ashes in his pocket so that he could be part of the K&M. And yes you have to witness it. It never gets old. Don't forget to dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. You're not. I'm sure there is a story behind it and it sits well with the other tailgators. But I would imagine the rest of the country watching it thinks it's ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 This was shot at the Bills home opener which just so happened to be the TBDAHOT. And yep a couple of TBDers are in the promo. Can you pick any of them out? Uhhhh, I think I saw Hammer in there? And, for the record, the entire Vermont crew was stoked to see that cameo! Can't wait to see the full show, I think I'm in the background a bit since I was dragging them around the Lot to the good food before the K&M ceremony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) I know Kenny fairly well, spending time with him on Saturday's, Sundays, after everyone has left the lot we do a cool down/reflection of the day at the BTI and I did his roof on his house. Kenny does the K&M for the tailgaters. They would be disappointed if he stop it and Kenny is to nice of a guy to do that. The K&M leds into a group rally with the Bills Shout song playing and the tailgating family dancing. Kenny confided to me last game. A woman came up to him, placed a small container of her husband ashes in his pocket so that he could be part of the K&M. And yes you have to witness it. It never gets old. Don't forget to dance.I am not denying he is a good man. And that is a heartwarming story to be certain. But man oh man, when I go, please spread my ashes over the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone or something. And that's the other tailgaters' problem if they want to see another guy mercilessly doused in ketchup and mustard in freezing conditions and then have to clean up (that's another question I have- what does the clean up process entail?) Does Kenny derive any satisfaction from being doused in ketchup and mustard- like is it a weird fetish?- or is it purely for others' satisfaction? Edited December 21, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 You're not. I'm sure there is a story behind it and it sits well with the other tailgators. But I would imagine the rest of the country watching it thinks it's ridiculous. So ridiculous that school teachers and principals have using been using this for book reading challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 So ridiculous that school teachers and principals have using been using this for book reading challenges.What does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 The K&M is part of the tradition...why question it? BTW, hate to admit the knucklehead Jet fan Hammer is kicking out was with us...a friend of my nephew from UB, first time I had met him. Thankfully Hammer knocked some sense in him, he came back and had a two-hour nap and plenty of water, and was a perfect gentleman and tailgater after that scolding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Kenny is a really great guy. Down to earth, die hard as they come. I actually think his routine is something people look forward to as part of a "tradition" of sorts. If he didn't do it...people would ask why (99% would anyway). In a day when guys are crashing into burning tables, banging their skulls into buses or drinking vodka from some chick's ass...Kenny is a throwback to what good tailgating is all about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I am not denying he is a good man. And that is a heartwarming story to be certain. But man oh man, when I go, please spread my ashes over the Grand Canyon or Yellowstone or something. And that's the other tailgaters' problem if they want to see another guy mercilessly doused in ketchup and mustard in freezing conditions and then have to clean up (that's another question I have- what does the clean up process entail?) Does Kenny derive any satisfaction from being doused in ketchup and mustard- like is it a weird fetish?- or is it purely for others' satisfaction? We can shoot your ashes out of a shirt cannon over Hammers Lot! Others satisfaction as I implied. He can't wait for his kid to take over. Clean up takes about 4 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Have a family member or close friend douse you with a bottle of K&M, then see how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 We can shoot your ashes out of a shirt cannon over Hammers Lot! Others satisfaction as I implied. He can't wait for his kid to take over. Clean up takes about 4 minutes. How the heck does it only take 4 minutes to clean up? The guy is soaked in ketchup/mustard. I would think a full blown shower is in order, unless he goes unto the game with mustard stains on his beard. I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. I think it is ridiculous too, but I think a lot of things his group does are kind of crazy, like the way they cook, keeping the pinto running etc, drinking shots out of a bowling ball... But with that being said, I have never heard a bad word said about Kenny from anyone ever in the parking lot, the guy still seems like he loves doing it, he has a great national following & he obviously is a diehard Bills fan so I say more power to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyQuil Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I read the article. Can't believe TBN used the phrase "butt-chug." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 How the heck does it only take 4 minutes to clean up? The guy is soaked in ketchup/mustard. I would think a full blown shower is in order, unless he goes unto the game with mustard stains on his beard. He wears an oversized t-shirt that catches most of the K&M. I think there is a portable shower bag for his hair and face. After hundreds of times, he has it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Kenny is awesome. Hammer is awesome. We all have a lot of fun in his lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Just wanted to make sure people know that I don't think Kenny is a bad guy or that the ketchup and mustard routine is nothing but goofy, even positive energy. I just think that the staunch defenders may have been around it long enough that they don't realize just how bizarre it seems to someone who is not familiar with the ritual. Like try explaining it to someone who has no idea about it sometime. And also, yes, how in god's name can the cleanup only take four minutes!?! Edited December 21, 2016 by metzelaars_lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Nails Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Look for a Jamie nails appearance. Not the fat former guard. A 34 year old Caucasian from California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. Like so many traditions, you can ask: "Is it fun" - Probably not for Kenny "Does it make sense?" - No "Is it necessary?" - No But people often remember to ask "Is it important?". I hope this helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I know Kenny fairly well, spending time with him on Saturday's, Sundays, after everyone has left the lot we do a cool down/reflection of the day at the BTI and I did his roof on his house. Kenny does the K&M for the tailgaters. They would be disappointed if he stop it and Kenny is to nice of a guy to do that. The K&M leds into a group rally with the Bills Shout song playing and the tailgating family dancing. Kenny confided to me last game. A woman came up to him, placed a small container of her husband ashes in his pocket so that he could be part of the K&M. And yes you have to witness it. It never gets old. Don't forget to dance. Great response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 (edited) Uhhhh, I think I saw Hammer in there? And, for the record, the entire Vermont crew was stoked to see that cameo! Can't wait to see the full show, I think I'm in the background a bit since I was dragging them around the Lot to the good food before the K&M ceremony... Sorry to say I beat you to it as after they wired me up Mead and the TBD crew was the very next stop. Kenny and his brother Tom has the cleanup down pat. Right after Kenny is done with the photo ops, Tom dressed in a rain coat pours "Warm" water on shirtless Kenny. Is there a mild detergent in the water I do not know but one would think as after I did the K&M once it was a B word cleaning up with cold water from the outside faucet at my house. What does that mean? Kids read so many books and reach a goal, they get to spray ketchup on the teacher or principal.! Also I know the crew was at a couple of places (Bar Bill for Beef on Weck, Louie's Hot Dogs, cd release party For a Hard Core Punk Band 👎) so the episode will be more than about tailgating. Edited December 23, 2016 by Hammered a Lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 I'm in this. A few times. Yyyyeaaaah. And I know quite a few others. Tip: we are in the tent. And one lovely lady helped introduce him to the corn dipper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm 4 or 5 cars up from the ketchup and mustard every home game, have been for ages. I've seen the ceremony enough that I don't really watch it anymore, instead I watch the people around it. It's fun to watch the reactions, people get excited, cellphones are out taking pictures, people want photos with Kenny, the crowd cheers. Fans that may only make it to a handful of Bills games in their lives make a point of being there for ketchup. There is a story behind it, Kenny's told me a few times, but I'm not great with remembering fine details so I'll leave the story telling to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) On the road Kenny just does the bowling ball shots. He was with us in SF and Oakland in the past and I had met him in Phoenix and San Diego. He offered the bowling ball shots to the Raiders fans around us in the lot and they enjoyed it. No problems when you offer them shots of a hideous Polish cherry liquor. Edited December 22, 2016 by Wacka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 There is a story behind it, Kenny's told me a few times, but I'm not great with remembering fine details so I'll leave the story telling to someone else. The basic details from what I was told is that the original intent was to get the ketchup on the burger without getting any on Kenny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Always proud of Hammers Lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester43 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 (edited) I don't now if i ever posted this here or not...but I got married 10 years ago to a beautiful woman who had an 7 year old daughter. Having been single for a very long time before that, I was on a healthy stretch of going to 2-3 home games a year (I live 6 hrs away). I enjoyed many a good K/M spectacle and amore than a few bowling ball shots over that stretch. Anyway, in an attempt to bond with my new stepdaughter, I rustled up some amusing youtube vids of Ken at "work." Her 7-year-old self thought it was hilarious of course- so much so that we subsequently organized our first annual family ketchup and mustard battle...to be contested each year on New Year's Eve. It was just the three of us, but we had a hell of a good time. 10 years and three sons later, there will be 6 of us taking part in "KMB-11" on December 31st. So is it bizarre? I guess...but it is way more funny and fun. We have our laughs and clean up and we are almost always in bed asleep before midnight. the pictures get out and people's jaws drop a little when they saw our 4, 5 and 7 year old boys hosed down with K&M last year, but I've definitely made Bills fans out fo them, so how bad could it be. To the guy who started this thread: Lighten up. I really don't give $h!t about what anyone else thinks of our goofy Bills fan traditions and neither should you. We're sort of a cult anyway, right? Edited December 22, 2016 by jester43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 The basic details from what I was told is that the original intent was to get the ketchup on the burger without getting any on Kenny. And if I remember the story correctly the Bills won that day and a tradition was born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don't now if i ever posted this here or not...but I got married 10 years ago to a beautiful woman who had an 7 year old daughter. Having been single for a very long time before that, I was on a healthy stretch of going to 2-3 home games a year (I live 6 hrs away). I enjoyed many a good K/M spectacle and amore than a few bowling ball shots over that stretch. Anyway, in an attempt to bond with my new stepdaughter, I rustled up some amusing youtube vids of Ken at "work." Her 7-year-old self thought it was hilarious of course- so much so that we subsequently organized our first annual family ketchup and mustard battle...to be contested each year on New Year's Eve. It was just the three of us, but we had a hell of a good time. 10 years and three sons later, there will be 6 of us taking part in "KMB-11" on December 31st. So is it bizarre? I guess...but it is way more funny and fun. We have our laughs and clean up and we are almost always in bed asleep before midnight. the pictures get out and people's jaws drop a little when they saw our 4, 5 and 7 year old boys hosed down with K&M last year, but I've definitely made Bills fans out fo them, so how bad could it be. To the guy who started this thread: Lighten up. I really don't give **** about what anyone else thinks of our goofy Bills fan traditions and neither should you. We're sort of a cult anyway, right? Metz has a fair share of "off my lawnism" about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 You're not. I'm sure there is a story behind it and it sits well with the other tailgators. But I would imagine the rest of the country watching it thinks it's ridiculous. I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. I agree as well, this whole drunken bit seems pretty stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don't now if i ever posted this here or not... Fantastic! Like so many other traditions, Kenny's ceremony didn't happen this way intentionally, and it doesn't have to make sense. Roll with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I agree as well, this whole drunken bit seems pretty stupid I don't think I have ever seen Kenny drunk on game days. Also he has a lot of stuff to pack after everyone leaves and he does have to drive home. He is a responsible tailgater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted December 22, 2016 Author Share Posted December 22, 2016 I don't now if i ever posted this here or not...but I got married 10 years ago to a beautiful woman who had an 7 year old daughter. Having been single for a very long time before that, I was on a healthy stretch of going to 2-3 home games a year (I live 6 hrs away). I enjoyed many a good K/M spectacle and amore than a few bowling ball shots over that stretch. Anyway, in an attempt to bond with my new stepdaughter, I rustled up some amusing youtube vids of Ken at "work." Her 7-year-old self thought it was hilarious of course- so much so that we subsequently organized our first annual family ketchup and mustard battle...to be contested each year on New Year's Eve. It was just the three of us, but we had a hell of a good time. 10 years and three sons later, there will be 6 of us taking part in "KMB-11" on December 31st. So is it bizarre? I guess...but it is way more funny and fun. We have our laughs and clean up and we are almost always in bed asleep before midnight. the pictures get out and people's jaws drop a little when they saw our 4, 5 and 7 year old boys hosed down with K&M last year, but I've definitely made Bills fans out fo them, so how bad could it be. To the guy who started this thread: Lighten up. I really don't give **** about what anyone else thinks of our goofy Bills fan traditions and neither should you. We're sort of a cult anyway, right? Great story and a great tradition! And I am the OP, but I wasn't the one who questioned the K&M ceremony, I would never do that...I think it's great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 I respect Kenny's dedication- that he goes to every game and such- but am I the only one who finds the ketchup and mustard part of his shtick more than a little moronic? Like it's not funny, it's just bizarre. He doesn't have to do that to be a tailgate legend, he already is one. What is he thinking and feeling when he's cleaning up after doing it? The whole thing is just weird. Like I'll go on a diatribe to a non-Bills fan about how legendary Bills tailgating is and then I get to that part of it and people will respond with simple questions like "why?" and I have no answers for them. I can't be the only one who feels this way. I know. It should be chicken wing sauce and blue cheese! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 It's on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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