Virgil Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I've now seen two mocks, one on sport line where Paxton Lynch goes top 15. Based off the amount of attention we've thrown his way, I wonder if a trade up would happen. I'm not advocating that. I honesty don't see any standout talent for us, just a lot of depth. I'm a TT guy, but also understand that he can get hurt. So if it's a qb that we can lock up for 5 years that could end up being the guy, I'll trust the front office to make that call. Personally, with such a deep draft, I'd prefer to trade out of the first and get the Stanford or penn state kid in the 4th round or later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I've now seen two mocks, one on sport line where Paxton Lynch goes top 15. Based off the amount of attention we've thrown his way, I wonder if a trade up would happen. I'm not advocating that. I honesty don't see any standout talent for us, just a lot of depth. I'm a TT guy, but also understand that he can get hurt. So if it's a qb that we can lock up for 5 years that could end up being the guy, I'll trust the front office to make that call. Personally, with such a deep draft, I'd prefer to trade out of the first and get the Stanford or penn state kid in the 4th round or later Every player in the league can get hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 20, 2016 Author Share Posted April 20, 2016 Agreed, but mobile qb's not named Cam are more prone to it. As TT showed last year. If someone put odds on him finishing a full season heathy, I wouldn't take 50/5 on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Agreed, but mobile qb's not named Cam are more prone to it. As TT showed last year. If someone put odds on him finishing a full season heathy, I wouldn't take 50/5 on it. what about Roethlisberger? He gets hurt every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Mock Paxton Lynch? Okay, not sure why, but here goes. Hey Paxton... what the hell kind of name is Paxton? You a sissy mommy's boy, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 We need to hold out on a QB and go all in on Watson next year if it's a QB we're after. We better not trade up for Lynch in the 1st, nor even take a QB in the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Mock Paxton Lynch? Okay, not sure why, but here goes. Hey Paxton... what the hell kind of name is Paxton? You a sissy mommy's boy, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I've now seen two mocks, one on sport line where Paxton Lynch goes top 15. Based off the amount of attention we've thrown his way, I wonder if a trade up would happen. I'm not advocating that. I honesty don't see any standout talent for us, just a lot of depth. I'm a TT guy, but also understand that he can get hurt. So if it's a qb that we can lock up for 5 years that could end up being the guy, I'll trust the front office to make that call. Personally, with such a deep draft, I'd prefer to trade out of the first and get the Stanford or penn state kid in the 4th round or later Yeah really. But they do have EJ locked up for another 2-3 years.... If there is one thing Whaley knows...it's scouting/drafting a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I've now seen two mocks, one on sport line where Paxton Lynch goes top 15. Based off the amount of attention we've thrown his way, I wonder if a trade up would happen. I'm not advocating that. I honesty don't see any standout talent for us, just a lot of depth. I'm a TT guy, but also understand that he can get hurt. So if it's a qb that we can lock up for 5 years that could end up being the guy, I'll trust the front office to make that call. Personally, with such a deep draft, I'd prefer to trade out of the first and get the Stanford or penn state kid in the 4th round or later Top 10 for Lynch wouldn't surprise me at all. He won't make it out of the teens for sure. If the Browns move back from 2 you have to think it is because they like Lynch as much or better than whichever of Wentz/Goff makes it to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Top 10 for Lynch wouldn't surprise me at all. He won't make it out of the teens for sure. If the Browns move back from 2 you have to think it is because they like Lynch as much or better than whichever of Wentz/Goff makes it to them. I think if the Browns move back then it is to stockpile picks and they take Cardale in Round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Every player in the league can get hurt. Every player isn't the focus of the defense, with plays designed to attack him whenever he has the ball. But then, you know that. It's just fun to act like TT is just another QB, not a smallish QB, that runs the ball a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Every player isn't the focus of the defense, with plays designed to attack him whenever he has the ball. But then, you know that. It's just fun to act like TT is just another QB, not a smallish QB, that runs the ball a lot. Like I mentioned earlier....what about Roethlisberger......he seems to be hurt often...he's not a smallish QB who runs the ball a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 We need to draft a QB this year Lynch, Cook, Goff or Wentz. We need one. I don't want to be the Broncos of next year. Where a QB wants $20MM dollars and he is no where near worth it and you are left with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Like I mentioned earlier....what about Roethlisberger......he seems to be hurt often...he's not a smallish QB who runs the ball a lot So what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 originally it was - if he's here will we pick him. Now its - should we trade up to get him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 So what? really? trouble following the conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Agreed, but mobile qb's not named Cam are more prone to it. As TT showed last year. If someone put odds on him finishing a full season heathy, I wouldn't take 50/5 on it. How about 10 to 1 instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 I think if the Browns move back then it is to stockpile picks and they take Cardale in Round 2. I don't buy the Cardale hype. He's got great raw physical talent and he's very smart, but he is a total project. It'll take years for a team to get him developed enough to see what they've got. That's why he's a Day 3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 We need to draft a QB this year Lynch, Cook, Goff or Wentz. We need one. I don't want to be the Broncos of next year. Where a QB wants $20MM dollars and he is no where near worth it and you are left with nothing. This is the truth. I suppose Tyrod COULD improve, but if he stays what he is, he's exactly what you say. As far as Lynch is concerned, if he's still there at 19, Whaley will be hard-pressed to pass on him. imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 So what? So...just because you have a smallish QB who runs a lot doesn't mean he's necessarily more prone to injury than a big, strong, non-mobile QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 So...just because you have a smallish QB who runs a lot doesn't mean he's necessarily more prone to injury than a big, strong, non-mobile QB. Lynch is actually pretty mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) Lynch is actually pretty mobile. Referring to Roethlisberger. Edit: Hooray! 10,000th post... Edited April 20, 2016 by Rubes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Like I mentioned earlier....what about Roethlisberger......he seems to be hurt often...he's not a smallish QB who runs the ball a lot So...just because you have a smallish QB who runs a lot doesn't mean he's necessarily more prone to injury than a big, strong, non-mobile QB. You guys can stick with cherry-picked individual cases, and I'll go with physics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXunnaaYtz0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 We need to hold out on a QB and go all in on Watson next year if it's a QB we're after. We better not trade up for Lynch in the 1st, nor even take a QB in the 1st. yep. trade down and prepare to trade up next year fr all the marbles. Unless.... Tyrod takes the big step into his big boy QB britches. He just might , but i am thinking next seasons draft is the time to go for it if need be. How about 10 to 1 instead? : ) I don't buy the Cardale hype. He's got great raw physical talent and he's very smart, but he is a total project. It'll take years for a team to get him developed enough to see what they've got. That's why he's a Day 3 pick. as he should be. But you never know about teams chasing QBs in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuoteTheRaven83 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 (edited) Like I mentioned earlier....what about Roethlisberger......he seems to be hurt often...he's not a smallish QB who runs the ball a lot So 30 yds rushing in a season is running a lot? Didn't know. Mobile and scrambling are 2 completely different things. Edited April 20, 2016 by QuoteTheRaven83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Referring to Roethlisberger. Edit: Hooray! 10,000th post... time for your intervention and colon cleansing. Congrats !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 So 30 yds rushing in a season is running a lot? Didn't know. Mobile and scrambling are 2 completely different things. I think he meant Roethlisberger is not [a smallish QB who runs a lot], as opposed to [a smallish QB] who runs a lot. I don't think anybody would say Roethlisberger runs a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) Just some thoughts - Ragland in the 1st, Cook in the Second, best available DE in the 3rd OR1st - Lynch2nd - BA (Best Available) LB3rd - BA DEOther viable options in the first, if available, would be Lawson or Dodd. I really feel that we're going to target Cook in the 2nd though since I don't see Lynch dropping past the top 10 - 15 spots. Edited April 21, 2016 by BuffaloFan68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think he meant Roethlisberger is not [a smallish QB who runs a lot], as opposed to [a smallish QB] who runs a lot. I don't think anybody would say Roethlisberger runs a lot. Thank you...I've given up trying to make my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Every team needs TWO good QBs for competition and in case one of them gets injured. Taylor is a good QB, but the Bills need to hedge their bet and select the best possible QB in this draft when they get the chance. In a QB driven league why is it that so many people on this board think it's just fine to settle for Hogan or C. Jones when the Bills have the opportunity to draft P. Lynch?? We can't beat the Patriots because their QB is much better than ours. Many, if not most, of the games that are played in the NFL come down to which team has the better QB play. Have you not been paying attention?????????????????????????????????????????? Lynch is capable of being the best QB in this draft and he just may fall right into our lap. Whaley knows it, but he might not be able to take the chance that some team would swoop in and steal him right from under our noses just prior to the #19 overall pick. I think it's a no brainer..........if Lynch is available at #19, you take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 (edited) 3. PAXTON LYNCH, Memphis (6-6 ½, 246, 4.83, 1): Fourth-year junior. "He's the guy I like," one scout said. "He's got the poise, the vision. You can see what Memphis has done since he's been there. Guy beat Mississippi and put Memphis on the map. Good athlete. Got all the things I look for in a guy." Only other offers out of Deltona, Fla., were from Florida A&M and Bethune-Cookman. "For a tall guy he doesn't act like (Dan) McGwire or somebody," another scout said. "He can get out of trouble. He can run. He can make all the throws. Accuracy is good, not great. Just give him a minute … but Jacksonville gave (Blake) Bortles only four games." His 36-inch vertical jump tied Cardale Jones for best effort among QBs. His passer rating of 93.5 included 110.6 in '15. "You might hit the home run with Lynch but because of the mental you might strike out," a third scout said. "He has the best arm. It ain't even close. That big, tall son of a gun can run, too. He's a little spacy, a little different." Added a fourth scout: "The overall maturity level and disposition, I'd be a bit concerned. Big kid, strong arm. But he's a ways away mentally." Wonderlic of 18. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-nfl-draft-prospects-quarterbacks-b99704527z1-376408321.html I hope we avoid taking this guy. Found this article though. It's actually a good write-up on all of the QB's. Edited April 21, 2016 by H2o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-nfl-draft-prospects-quarterbacks-b99704527z1-376408321.html I hope we avoid taking this guy. Found this article though. It's actually a good write-up on all of the QB's. Wentz looks like the pick of that litter. Goff is going to struggle I think. Lynch sounds like a bit of a moron because of "the mental", as scouts seem to put these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/rating-the-nfl-draft-prospects-quarterbacks-b99704527z1-376408321.html I hope we avoid taking this guy. Found this article though. It's actually a good write-up on all of the QB's. No one has a clue as to which QB's are going to pan out or not. Why not take a shot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I like Lynch and would consider taking him at #19. NOT moving up to take him, since we can't rule out Tyrod being the guy . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I'm curious if any others have seen some of his recent interviews? Does he strike you as a football player? QB? I already have my opinions of the kid so I'm not going to skew yours, I'd just like to see what you guys think (who have watched him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 Wentz looks like the pick of that litter. Goff is going to struggle I think. Lynch sounds like a bit of a moron because of "the mental", as scouts seem to put these things. Yeah, I wouldn't say moron, but he did run a dumbed down offense. No changes in protection, no audibles at the line, none of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think the Bills will take Lynch at #19 overall......if he's there. The Jets will certainly take him at #20 overall if the Bills don't. Whaley may even feel like he needs to trade up to get Lynch. The Bills missed out on QB Ben Roethlisberger many years ago when he was selected just one pick in front of them. Just think about the direction the Bills might have followed had they made a move for QB Rberger instead of settling for WR Lee Evans. You don't pass up the chance to draft a good QB when you have the chance.......well you can, but you won't be employed by an NFL team for very long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 FWIW - Somewhat distant family member scout for NFL team - saw him last week - HATES Lynch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 21, 2016 Share Posted April 21, 2016 I think the Bills will take Lynch at #19 overall......if he's there. The Jets will certainly take him at #20 overall if the Bills don't. Whaley may even feel like he needs to trade up to get Lynch. The Bills missed out on QB Ben Roethlisberger many years ago when he was selected just one pick in front of them. Just think about the direction the Bills might have followed had they made a move for QB Rberger instead of settling for WR Lee Evans. You don't pass up the chance to draft a good QB when you have the chance.......well you can, but you won't be employed by an NFL team for very long. Lynch is not Ben Ro.... sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Breakdown of why the Bills are interested in Paxton Lynch http://www.cover1.net/2016/04/whypaxton-lynch-qb/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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