YoloinOhio Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 @hsimon62: Julian Edelman career stats vs Ryan's Jets teams: 10 games, 60 targets, 38 catches, 367 yards and 1 touchdown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I like Robey on him all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I like Robey on him all day. Same here, good matchup, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 He has always killed the Bills as I recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 @hsimon62: Julian Edelman career stats vs Ryan's Jets teams: 10 games, 60 targets, 38 catches, 367 yards and 1 touchdown Thank you. That's very encouraging. Averages out to 6 targets but just 3.8 catches, 36.7 yards and 0.1 touchdowns PER GAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Up until the last two years he wasn't the type of target he was recently. And he only played in one jet game last year I think. Â The stats a bit misleading I that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 16, 2015 Author Share Posted September 16, 2015 @hsimon62: stats slightly skewed bc edelmans numbers were better after welker left. in 3 games without welker, edelman had 22 catches, 166 yds, 0 TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I like Robey on him all day. I'm in favor of whoever can break his right humerus/ulna...that way he can't do that cocky "First Down" motion whenever he catches a ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r00tabaga Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 For a white guy, he sure has a lot of "flare" doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think Edelman is the primary example of what Aaron Williams was talking about yesterday when he said "the way they carry themselves on the field." Â Edelman is a Doooosh. Capital D. Â Would love to see Robey undercut him on one of those quick routes and take it the other way for six. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think Darby follows him around. I want Robey available to play the slot and blitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I think Darby follows him around. I want Robey available to play the slot and blitz. Â I'm sort of worried about the rookie playing a shifty guy like Edelman...maybe that's just me. At this point in their respective careers I trust Robey's instincts more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I like Robey on him as he has the experience, and head on a swivel. Put Gillmore on Gronk. Let Nigel and Preston stop the run with Dareus. Â I'm so jacked for Sunday!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Â I'm sort of worried about the rookie playing a shifty guy like Edelman...maybe that's just me. At this point in their respective careers I trust Robey's instincts more. Â I understand that sentiment, eball. For me, Darby's problems haven't been the "can't stick with 'em" variety, but rather getting beaten to the football in jump-ball/deep-ball scenarios. That's not exactly Edelman's game, nor is it the way that Brady**** targets him. Darby excels in sticking with the short-area quickness guys, so I'd prefer to let him do that with Edelman. if he's not up to the task, you can always move Robey on him, but the advantage that Robey offers in blitzing is too great to give up. Â The other factor to consider is that I believe NE**** will play a LOT of 2-TE on Sunday, and I think you want Darby on the field as he'll hold up better against WR blocking on the edge of the field than Robey will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Â I understand that sentiment, eball. For me, Darby's problems haven't been the "can't stick with 'em" variety, but rather getting beaten to the football in jump-ball/deep-ball scenarios. That's not exactly Edelman's game, nor is it the way that Brady**** targets him. Darby excels in sticking with the short-area quickness guys, so I'd prefer to let him do that with Edelman. if he's not up to the task, you can always move Robey on him, but the advantage that Robey offers in blitzing is too great to give up. Â The other factor to consider is that I believe NE**** will play a LOT of 2-TE on Sunday, and I think you want Darby on the field as he'll hold up better against WR blocking on the edge of the field than Robey will. Â That is a very good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Â I understand that sentiment, eball. For me, Darby's problems haven't been the "can't stick with 'em" variety, but rather getting beaten to the football in jump-ball/deep-ball scenarios. That's not exactly Edelman's game, nor is it the way that Brady**** targets him. Darby excels in sticking with the short-area quickness guys, so I'd prefer to let him do that with Edelman. if he's not up to the task, you can always move Robey on him, but the advantage that Robey offers in blitzing is too great to give up. Â The other factor to consider is that I believe NE**** will play a LOT of 2-TE on Sunday, and I think you want Darby on the field as he'll hold up better against WR blocking on the edge of the field than Robey will. im buying what your selling here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bellicheat is going to spread the offense wide and run. Mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy10 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 For a white guy, he sure has a lot of "flare" doesn't he? Â Yup. A real high motor gym rat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bellicheat is going to spread the offense wide and run. Mark my words. Â That would be a welcomed approach. Go ahead. Â Remove Gronk from the box and you've got their 5 OLmen going against our DL and Preston Brown + Aaron Williams. I'll take that matchup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 @hsimon62: Julian Edelman career stats vs Ryan's Jets teams: 10 games, 60 targets, 38 catches, 367 yards and 1 touchdownClose to ten yards a pop...ouchBellicheat is going to spread the offense wide and run. Mark my words. He normally plays to his strength and thats not it. However he has to figure out a way to neutralize the blitz. Im kind of indifferent so the safe bet is he finds a way to cheat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Pats*** deal with the blitz with a QB who can get the ball out accurately in less than two seconds. That's why Edelman's quickness & Gronk's size are so key. There isn't time for deep or crossing patterns in that type of scheme. Brady's receivers can wall off defenders or quickly get open coming off the line or out of motion. I think we need to limit the blitzes and let the Cold Front take care of the pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leroi Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 For a white guy, he sure has a lot of "flare" doesn't he? Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blargo Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Close to ten yards a pop...ouch He normally plays to his strength and thats not it. However he has to figure out a way to neutralize the blitz. Im kind of indifferent so the safe bet is he finds a way to cheat. Yeah, but only 36 yards a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Here's a stat on Edleman: He is my #1 most hated player on the Pats. Even more than Brady right now. I hate the way he gets up chirping after every friggin play. Someone needs to lay him out. Â I also feel like Darby, with his speed, would be better to cover the very quick Edleman than Robey would. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yeah, but only 36 yards a game. yea, but 7 of those games he was a 5th stringer. Â the 3 as starter werent terribly impressive, though more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bellicheat is going to spread the offense wide and run. Mark my words. Or, he's going to go 4 TE ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Thank the lord welker isn't on the team anymore, could swear the guy would rack up 10 plus catches with over 100 yards every time he played the bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Bellicheat is going to spread the offense wide and run. Mark my words. If anything is done opening up the Patriots field then Belicheat is going to put Gronk out wide. Among his best offensive weapons is Chandler, he will need him on the field, as well. Amendola and Edelman on the field with either Dobson or Chandler is going to be the routine. I don't expect the Patriots to bother running much two back sets. They will want the mismatches of putting TE's out wide against our DB's. I believe that will include Chandler. Â This will create mismatches in size and make our guys have to cover a lot more field to stop them. We have fresh legs to bring in but if Graham can't go and with McKelvin out we won't have it too easy. Mario Butler really stepped up and we know what we have in Robey. It is our LB's that will be beat and could run out of steam, especially if we put an LB on Edelman inside. Â Edelman won't have a big game but he will contribute and help create mismatches on the field to allow for Chandler and Gronk to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Robey.....your assignment should you choose to accept it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Â I understand that sentiment, eball. For me, Darby's problems haven't been the "can't stick with 'em" variety, but rather getting beaten to the football in jump-ball/deep-ball scenarios. That's not exactly Edelman's game, nor is it the way that Brady**** targets him. Darby excels in sticking with the short-area quickness guys, so I'd prefer to let him do that with Edelman. if he's not up to the task, you can always move Robey on him, but the advantage that Robey offers in blitzing is too great to give up. Â The other factor to consider is that I believe NE**** will play a LOT of 2-TE on Sunday, and I think you want Darby on the field as he'll hold up better against WR blocking on the edge of the field than Robey will. I agree with this. Darby can stay with his guy step for step. It's the tall guys he's had trouble with, and Edelman's only 5'10". And, after Darby's performance vs. Indy, I think he can shut Edelman down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seq004 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 7th round pick smh. Nickel meet Julian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackInDaDay Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 3rd and short yardage is his bread and butter.. i don't know if Darby's quick enough to make up for sketchy rookie instincts.. he's certainly not big enough.. and his propensity to grab jerseys may catch a holding flag or two. Pats like to move him to keep anyone from getting a bead on him - even good technique guys are at a disadvantage there.. it's gonna be tough assignment all around, but as much as Gronk has become big play threat, i think Edelman is who B & B trust most in big downs.. frustrate him, and they stall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yeah, but only 36 yards a game.True but his numbers per game have risen as of late. I dont have time to investigate it all but I dont remember big games early on but now he is heavily in a Welker type role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) The Bills need to play smart and physical. Make it hurt by dishing out punishing hits on all those dink and dunk type passes (Also the first guy there needs to make the tackle). Each time they touch the ball they need to be more sore than the last time. Do that and don't beat yourselves and that's a recipe for success against the Pats*. The Ravens always seem to have success against the Pats* by having good strong open field tackling to go along with a front seven capable of pressuring the QB. Edited September 16, 2015 by billsfan89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 The Pats*** deal with the blitz with a QB who can get the ball out accurately in less than two seconds. That's why Edelman's quickness & Gronk's size are so key. There isn't time for deep or crossing patterns in that type of scheme. Brady's receivers can wall off defenders or quickly get open coming off the line or out of motion. I think we need to limit the blitzes and let the Cold Front take care of the pass rush. Your absolutely right about Brady getting the ball off quickly. But Luck also gets the ball off quickly and the blitz certainly didn't hurt us. If you give Brady even more time to throw by not blitzing, he'll pick you to pieces continually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Edelman (when knocked on his *** within the 5 yard contact window): 0 catches, 0 YDS, 0TD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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