eball Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) From @Mitch_Courtney1: Hearing from a source close to the situation that the Bills will part ways with Matt Cassel in favor of EJ Manuel as early as Friday This guy doesn't have any obvious connections, so take it FWIW. Edited September 5, 2015 by eball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 i won't believe this until I see more threads on this page with the same information with just slightly different thread titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 They must be crunching the numbers to pay Dareus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Rex said 3 QB's...TT, EJ, and Simms...It really wouldn't surprise me either way. Edited September 1, 2015 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'm standing by the idea that they are willing to trade EJ for the right price, or cut Cassel when the next deadline hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) They must be crunching the numbers to pay Dareusyes, and others Edited September 1, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Rex said 3 QB's...TT, EJ, and Simms...It really wouldn't surprise me either way. I guess he could count keeping three including Simms if you count the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Yolo just added another thread....starting to believe it..... ...and quickly took it down....starting to not believe it again Edited September 1, 2015 by The Poojer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Yolo just added another thread....starting to believe it.....deleted! Same source as Eball I don't dislike Cassel but thrilled they are not giving EJ away. He is really making progress. Edited September 1, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsxfirefighter Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 deleted! Same source as Eball I don't dislike Cassel but thrilled they are not giving EJ away. He is really making progress. so if you delete a thread, does your post count still go up that 1 post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I guess he could count keeping three including Simms if you count the PS. or he could just change his mind off the last couple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd be shocked. We gave up a 5th and a 7th in a trade for him. Maybe a trade to get something, even a 7th back. But with no veteran on team, it just wouldn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 so if you delete a thread, does your post count still go up that 1 post. i have no idea. I like to post but not for that reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I thought Cassel was Roman's guy, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TH3 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Said in another thread - friends have a "closeness" to someone at OBD. Talked him to recently - said Bills all along only wanted to carry 2 qb's + practice squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KollegeStudnet Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Not a shocker. Saves the team $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 deleted! Same source as Eball I don't dislike Cassel but thrilled they are not giving EJ away. He is really making progress. This. It would not surprise me at all. Cassel showed next to nothing in the preseason. TT, EJ, Sims is a lot stronger than what we had last year and the year before. Where there's smoke, there's fire I always say. Hooda thunk that the "Vet" they're going to keep is EJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 or he could just change his mind off the last couple weeks. With a want to keep an extra WR, and extra TE, an extra RB, and a KO/KR, it would be idiotic to keep Matt Simms on the active roster and not the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd be shocked. We gave up a 5th and a 7th in a trade for him. Maybe a trade to get something, even a 7th back. But with no veteran on team, it just wouldn't make sense. it takes 4 mill right off the cap that they can roll over to sign Dareus. And these two guys are relatively inexperienced but aren't rookies. I think Cassel is also pissed. @TyDunne: Cassel wasn't around yesterday in the locker room. Didn't sound like he was thrilled with getting 4 preseason series in 3 games on Sat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd be shocked. We gave up a 5th and a 7th in a trade for him. Maybe a trade to get something, even a 7th back. But with no veteran on team, it just wouldn't make sense. That kind of thinking gets you in trouble. You can't make the right move because (insert reason here.) They traded for Cassel to make sure they had a contingency plan. Plans change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) Said in another thread - friends have a "closeness" to someone at OBD. Talked him to recently - said Bills all along only wanted to carry 2 qb's + practice squad I agree, it makes perfect sense. TT, EJ or Cassel (appears to be EJ), and Simms on the PS. Edited September 1, 2015 by ricojes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 With a want to keep an extra WR, and extra TE, an extra RB, and a KO/KR, it would be idiotic to keep Matt Simms on the active roster and not the PS. agreed - i just meant in the keep 2 instead of 3 sense. if EJ played his way firmly into the second slot its crazy to keep cassell, regardless of whether you count simms on the PS as "3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Let's hope so. The money can be put to much better use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 That kind of thinking gets you in trouble. You can't make the right move because (insert reason here.) They traded for Cassel to make sure they had a contingency plan. Plans change.yes. It's the exact opposite of the "ermagerd Whaley's ego" argument. He gave up a late round pick, so what, it's not worth losing the young stars he wants to sign with that cash if they don't think Cassel will help the team this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 it takes 4 mill right off the cap that they can roll over to sign Dareus. And these two guys are relatively inexperienced but aren't rookies. I think Cassel is also pissed. @TyDunne: Cassel wasn't around yesterday in the locker room. Didn't sound like he was thrilled with getting 4 preseason series in 3 games on Sat. It's a tough business. He can only be mad at himself, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I agree, it makes perfect sense. TT, EJ or Cassel (appears to be EJ), and Simms. if EJ was 3 you would keep him as his salary his fully guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 @TyDunne: Cassel wasn't around yesterday in the locker room. Didn't sound like he was thrilled with getting 4 preseason series in 3 games on Sat. With way EJ and Tyrod hv played it would not surprise me if Cassel is traded or cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 That kind of thinking gets you in trouble. You can't make the right move because (insert reason here.) They traded for Cassel to make sure they had a contingency plan. Plans change. Again, I would think they put Cassel and EJ on trade wire and see what they can get. But right now who knows. Again, my thought is one (likely EJ) would get traded with other staying (maybe). I also think/thought both could be gone and a backup closer to TT's style would be brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 it takes 4 mill right off the cap that they can roll over to sign Dareus. And these two guys are relatively inexperienced but aren't rookies. I think Cassel is also pissed. @TyDunne: Cassel wasn't around yesterday in the locker room. Didn't sound like he was thrilled with getting 4 preseason series in 3 games on Sat. If true, I think Cassel showed the coaches all they needed to see when he tried to run for a first down and got stuck and bounced back a yard in mid-air. Meanwhile Tyrod scrambled for 20 and six, and EJ just kept scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 From @Mitch_Courtney1: Hearing from a source close to the situation that the Bills will part ways with Matt Cassel in favor of EJ Manuel as early as Friday This guy doesn't have any obvious connections, so take it FWIW. I really do believe this is the best move... Cassel was brought in as vet insurance...TT and EJ are both young and relatively inexperienced...But the way the two young QB's have played Cassel is simply not needed anymore...I think removing him from this whole equation is smart...TT and EJ are the future and the future is clearly now...It's nothing against Cassel...The two young guys just got better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 From @Mitch_Courtney1: Hearing from a source close to the situation that the Bills will part ways with Matt Cassel in favor of EJ Manuel as early as Friday This guy doesn't have any obvious connections, so take it FWIW. I really wouldn't be surprised. They'd save $4M in cap space. EJ looked good in Pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I guess he could count keeping three including Simms if you count the PS. He never definitively stated he would keep 3....just that it was looking highly likely(at that point). I imagine that when Rex said that he was not wanting to cut EJ as he could see potential in him.....and after EJ showed himself to be actually better than Cassel, there is no reason to keep the more expensive vet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 i won't believe this until I see more threads on this page with the same information with just slightly different thread titles. at least 5 more threads, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) They are going to cut him because he is a Patriots spy and went to the Kentucky Derby with Tom Brady!!! FWIW, I thought all offseason that there was NO CHANCE of this happening. As it has played out it is possible. I was definitely wrong on this one. Edited September 1, 2015 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 On the one hand, EJ has an injury history and Tyrod doesn't have much of a record and is small, so keeping a QB that gives you a chance to win in the event of other injuries at the position is important. On the other hand, if that 4 million allows you to sign M.D. you probably do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 They are going to cut him because he is a Patriots spy and went to the Kentucky Derby with Tom Brady!!! FWIW, I thought all offseason that there was NO CHANCE of this happening. As it has played out it is possible. I was definitely wrong on this one. pretty sure Belicheat is gonna sign him and he will annihilate us!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If true, I think Cassel showed the coaches all they needed to see when he tried to run for a first down and got stuck and bounced back a yard in mid-air. Meanwhile Tyrod scrambled for 20 and six, and EJ just kept scoring.But preseason doesn't count. Practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 pretty sure Belicheat is gonna sign him and he will annihilate us!! He's better than Garofalo, at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I'd be shocked. We gave up a 5th and a 7th in a trade for him. Maybe a trade to get something, even a 7th back. But with no veteran on team, it just wouldn't make sense. It only makes no sense if the two young guys are not playing well or properly absorbing what Roman wants them to learn about the system...If the two young guys play better than expected and have the coaches confidence it makes all the sense in the world to release Cassel...Why have him standing in the way?...He's not part of the future...I don't like the fact that we gave up picks for him...But it's not like they gave up much...So... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 I think it is likely that Cassel gets released. Just listened to the Sportrac guy who discussed the Bills' cap situation and the savings from cutting Cassel would go a long way in being able to stretch out a signing bonus for Dareus. If the Bills are smart they will wait until the last minute to cut him just in case some freak injury to the other QBs happens before week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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