YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) @jchenelly: Jerry Hughes has decided to test the open market. #Bills #NFL #FreeAgencyUpdate - @SalSports: A source has informed me the Bills are still working hard towards retaining Jerry Hughes & "still optimistic" they can before FA opens 3/10. Joe Buscaglia @JoeBuscaglia 6m6 minutes ago #Bills officially announce they've re-signed DE Jerry Hughes Edited March 9, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dascottbills28 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I guess this means we Lose Jerry Hughes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 greg hardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 greg hardy +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) @jchenelly: Jerry Hughes has decided to test the open market. #Bills #NFL #FreeAgency Has he broke anything before? EDIT: Not that I doubt this guy but it seems odd that no one has picked this up. Add to that going through his feed he went from tweeting about political stuff to being an insider... Edited March 6, 2015 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 There was always a chance this would happen. Supposedly Bills told his agent(s) they know there are others out there who will overpay, but they will not. I think this decision is fiscally responsible, given the overall talent on the line and the other things they want to do. I will miss having Hughes on this defense, but I don't necessarily think we'll see a noticable difference in the success of that D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Guessing Bills are offering around $8-9M and his agent knows teams will pay $10-11M. Going to miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Has he broke anything before? You know what- I don't know. There's some commentary in another thread that he did have the Rex stuff first. He appears to have a connection at OBD. But can't say for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Jerry wants to get paid. People will automatically blame the Bills. But the Bills just simply cannot afford to sign him to what he wants. IMO, Jerry is going to go down as one of those bad FA signings that does not live up to the contract if he gets the 10+MM a year. He will no longer had Mario and Dareus to take pressure off of him. Good luck to him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Jerry wants to get paid. People will automatically blame the Bills. But the Bills just simply cannot afford to sign him to what he wants. IMO, Jerry is going to go down as one of those bad FA signings that does not live up to the contract if he gets the 10+MM a year. He will no longer had Mario and Dareus to take pressure off of him. Good luck to him though. Not at all... its the world of FA. Bills can use that money on other needs and also replace him, IMO. I love 55 but that's the reality of FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 greg hardy This should have been the plan all along. Mario-Kyle-Dareus-Hardy Brown-Harris-Bradham Williams-Duke Not too shabby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Jerry wants to get paid. People will automatically blame the Bills. But the Bills just simply cannot afford to sign him to what he wants. IMO, Jerry is going to go down as one of those bad FA signings that does not live up to the contract if he gets the 10+MM a year. He will no longer had Mario and Dareus to take pressure off of him. Good luck to him though. Just as Hughes took pressure off of them.......Hughes made plays when Mario and Mareus did not. Works both ways. Having said that, I don't think the Bills should pay him that kind of money Edited March 6, 2015 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) See ya. Sorry our $9M a year wasnt good enough for you See how well you do on a lesser defense. Hope you do better than your stats with the Colts CBF Edited March 6, 2015 by Canadian Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 There was always a chance this would happen. Supposedly Bills told his agent(s) they know there are others out there who will overpay, but they will not. I think this decision is fiscally responsible, given the overall talent on the line and the other things they want to do. I will miss having Hughes on this defense, but I don't necessarily think we'll see a noticable difference in the success of that D. I hope most people around here think the same way when it comes to OGs. I'd rather pay a pass rusher like Hughes a premium than an OG like Iupati. He will be missed. A reuniting with Pettine in Cleveland is a very good possibility. Both need and cap space certainly exist. The other usual suspects like Jax, Oakland, etc. should be in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) See ya. Sorry our $7-$8M a year wasnt good enough for you See how well you do on a lesser defense. Hope you do better than your stats with the Colts CBF would you take 7-8 knowing you can get 10-11? How do you know he's going to a lesser defense? Edited March 6, 2015 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 would you take 7-8 knowing you can get 10-11? How do you know he's going to a lesser defense? I bet we offered him $9M a year CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Damn.... hopefully we can pick up someone who can be at least 75% as productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 See ya. Sorry our $7-$8M a year wasnt good enough for you See how well you do on a lesser defense. Hope you do better than your stats with the Colts CBF So you'd leave what, $10M or so, on the table to play on a team that just finally broke .500 for the first time in forever and has no franchise QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I just don't understand why Whaley won't use the transition tag. I think the whole "we won't tag you so we can negotiate in good faith" is a BS approach, it's a business and these guys have a short shelf life, they are taking the most money 90% of the time, at least the transition tag gives us the chance to say yes or no to matching a deal. See ya. Sorry our $7-$8M a year wasnt good enough for you See how well you do on a lesser defense. Hope you do better than your stats with the Colts CBF This is is one chance at a big contract. I can't blame him, he's doing the smart thing. We set a value on him, he thinks he's worth more, it's business. Good luck Jerry, as long as you don't go to Cleveland. If you do that I hope you break your leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I just don't understand why Whaley won't use the transition tag. I think the whole "we won't tag you so we can negotiate in good faith" is a BS approach, it's a business and these guys have a short shelf life, they are taking the most money 90% of the time, at least the transition tag gives us the chance to say yes or no to matching a deal. Too late now. Maybe they thought it wasn't worth it for one season or that they wouldn't want to match the deal he'd be offered anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 There was always a chance this would happen. Supposedly Bills told his agent(s) they know there are others out there who will overpay, but they will not. I think this decision is fiscally responsible, given the overall talent on the line and the other things they want to do. I will miss having Hughes on this defense, but I don't necessarily think we'll see a noticable difference in the success of that D. Hughes is going to get paid as "The Man", when he is simply a complementary piece... Smart the Bills aren't going to overpay...he will be far less effective when constantly double and triple teamed due to crappy players around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 I just don't understand why Whaley won't use the transition tag. I think the whole "we won't tag you so we can negotiate in good faith" is a BS approach, it's a business and these guys have a short shelf life, they are taking the most money 90% of the time, at least the transition tag gives us the chance to say yes or no to matching a deal. Probably because they don't plan to match the huge offer he will get, and if they use that tag they wil not receive any draft pick compensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 I bet we offered him $9M a year CBF Then why did you say...sorry our 7-8 wasn't good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsox Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 @jchenelly: Jerry Hughes has decided to test the open market. #Bills #NFL #FreeAgency Big loss. Should have Franchised him... It will cost the Bills more than just $$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Then why did you say...sorry our 7-8 wasn't good enough? Fixed CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Probably because they don't plan to match the huge offer he will get, and if they use that tag they wil not receive any draft pick compensation Then the whole negotiation was just a show, or a hope they'd get him to agree to a discount based upon emotional pleas. I've known he was gone for a while and think we can replace his production, I just don't understand the whole dog and pony show of meeting with him when we had the tools to ultimately control his destiny and didn't use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Fixed CBF ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hughes is going to get paid as "The Man", when he is simply a complementary piece... Smart the Bills aren't going to overpay...he will be far less effective when constantly double and triple teamed due to crappy players around him or he is a good player that will help his new team. And there are other teams with quality players around. Like all those teams that made the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussellDopeland Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Weren't these type of things going to change with the sainted Pegulas taking over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Weren't these type of things going to change with the sainted Pegulas taking over? What "types of things"? I wasn't aware the Pegulas had control over changing the NFL salary cap and FA process. Edited March 6, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Im cool with both sides here. Im sure the Bills offered quite a bit... but wouldnt overpay which is fine because I know they are thinking in terms of cap ceiling now. I dont fault players for looking out for numero uno either. Good luck to Hughes and I hope somehow he is still a Bill Edited March 6, 2015 by May Day 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 only an idiot wouldn't test FA. could you imagine selling your house or car and only taking the first offer and not even seeing what other people would pay? if he's smart he will know our offer is pretty close and come back. otherwise, good luck to him. we know he's good in our defense but who knows if he can do the same things in another D. he sure couldn't in Indy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Weren't these type of things going to change with the sainted Pegulas taking over? Jerry Hughes is facing probably the one time in his entire career when his value is at its highest. Even if the Bills offered him huge dough, why wouldn't he wait to see what the league will offer? That doesn't mean he won't end up with the Bills anyway. It's a business risk on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hughes will get overpaid signing with a bad team and end up being cut in two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Hughes will get overpaid signing with a bad team and end up being cut in two years then we will re-sign him for cheaper than what we would have offered him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
negativo Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Time for a boy named Suh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 (edited) Hughes is going to get paid as "The Man", when he is simply a complementary piece... Smart the Bills aren't going to overpay...he will be far less effective when constantly double and triple teamed due to crappy players around him why do you think this will happen? Do you know who he's signing with already and assuming his teammates are all crappy? What if he goes to a good team and records 10 sacks again? Hughes was far from a complementary player. Again Bills fans don't like good players on their team. Hughes will get overpaid signing with a bad team and end up being cut in two years Why is everyone saying he will sign with a bad team? Edited March 6, 2015 by nucci Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 See ya. Sorry our $9M a year wasnt good enough for you See how well you do on a lesser defense. Hope you do better than your stats with the Colts CBF He will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Why is everyone saying he will sign with a bad team? Bc bad teams are usually the ones who overpay for players like Hughes who are good not great players. Jacksonville immediately comes to mind, maybe the Bears, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 why do you think this will happen? Do you know who he's signing with already and assuming his teammates are all crappy? What if he goes to a good team and records 10 sacks again? Hughes was far from a complementary player. Again Bills fans don't like good players on their team. Why is everyone saying he will sign with a bad team? They are the ones with the most cap space and worst pass rush. But it doesn't mean he will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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