Dopey Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 We have a defense that many of us think is championship caliber( I know I do). This defensive line is relatively young, I didn't look it up but I think Kyle Williams is one of the few who I consider long in the tooth. But he's playing damn good football and probably has 3 good years left. Our LB's are young and Kiko is coming back. Our DB's are also pretty young, McKelvin is the oldest at 29 yrs. old. On Offense we are also relatively young. We have a young line that needs work, but young none the less except for Pears. I believe the young guys on the o-line will play a lot better with a year under their belts and hopefully better coaching. Young WR's as well with potential in Watkins and Woods. I like our ST with Carpenter and to me, our punter didn't stick out as a terrible punter. I also like the pickup of Thigpen. Rb's are pretty easy to get if the o-line does it's job. Having said all of this, we obviously feel we could use an upgrade at the QB position until EJ gets up to speed or it's determined he just can't cut it. If the staff feels there is a QB worth it, either a vet on a team already(RGIII, Cutler, Bradford etc.) or a rookie(Winston or Marriotta) would you be ok with a blockbuster trade to acquire this guy? When I say a Mike Ditka type of trade, it doesn't have to be all of our picks, but maybe most of the picks left to acquire this guy. We all seem to agree that we are a QB away from the playoffs and even a deep run in the playoffs. We should be able to find a guard or 2 that will be an improvement over Pears, even Williams coming back from injury would be an upgrade over Pears. I think we are close enough to being a complete team, that this thought actually crossed my mind. As young as this team is, we would have a 3-4 year run and 3 drafts to make up for this trade. Keep in mind the picks given up are not locks to be good(see this article http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2014/4/17/5623840/nfl-draft-saints-ricky-williams-mike-ditka-trade ). Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 how about using a carriage return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 What are you getting at again? Trade a bunch of picks for who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 What are you getting at again? Trade a bunch of picks for who? As far as I can tell he's wondering if we'd be ok trading our entire draft for RGIII, Bradford or Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 how about using a carriage return were you not able to read it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 No one is trading a franchise level guy that also is not named Brady,Manning, Rodgers or Brees..guys like Flacco, Luck, Ryan, Wilson,...just aint gunna be traded unless you give all of this years picks, Kiko and Sammy...and possibly the next 2 years #1s.. Griffin, Cutler, Bradford ain't worth it...they can be had for less. So the argument is moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 No one is trading a franchise level guy that also is not named Brady,Manning, Rodgers or Brees..guys like Flacco, Luck, Ryan, Wilson,...just aint gunna be traded unless you give all of this years picks, Kiko and Sammy...and possibly the next 2 years #1s.. Griffin, Cutler, Bradford ain't worth it...they can be had for less. So the argument is moot. What argument? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The continued mentioning of Cutler as a possible good choice for the Bills is amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 The continued mentioning of Cutler as a possible good choice for the Bills is amusing. Agreed. I mentioned him because he was mentioned here a few times as a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 how about using a carriage return now that's,funny!!!10 points for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 7, 2015 Author Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) how about using a carriage return We have a defense that many of us think is championship caliber( I know I do). This defensive line is relatively young, I didn't look it up but I think Kyle Williams is one of the few who I consider long in the tooth. But he's playing damn good football and probably has 3 good years left. Our LB's are young and Kiko is coming back. Our DB's are also pretty young, McKelvin is the oldest at 29 yrs. old. On Offense we are also relatively young. We have a young line that needs work, but young none the less except for Pears. I believe the young guys on the o-line will play a lot better with a year under their belts and hopefully better coaching. Young WR's as well with potential in Watkins and Woods. I like our ST with Carpenter and to me, our punter didn't stick out as a terrible punter. I also like the pickup of Thigpen. Rb's are pretty easy to get if the o-line does it's job. Having said all of this, we obviously feel we could use an upgrade at the QB position until EJ gets up to speed or it's determined he just can't cut it. If the staff feels there is a QB worth it, either a vet on a team already(RGIII, Cutler, Bradford etc.) or a rookie(Winston or Marriotta) would you be ok with a blockbuster trade to acquire this guy? When I say a Mike Ditka type of trade, it doesn't have to be all of our picks, but maybe most of the picks left to acquire this guy. We all seem to agree that we are a QB away from the playoffs and even a deep run in the playoffs. We should be able to find a guard or 2 that will be an improvement over Pears, even Williams coming back from injury would be an upgrade over Pears. I think we are close enough to being a complete team, that this thought actually crossed my mind. As young as this team is, we would have a 3-4 year run and 3 drafts to make up for this trade. Keep in mind the picks given up are not locks to be good(see this article http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2014/4/17/5623840/nfl-draft-saints-ricky-williams-mike-ditka-trade ). Just a thought. Edited January 7, 2015 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 The continued mentioning of Cutler as a possible good choice for the Bills is amusing. As-is the frequent demand for the immortal Ryan Mallett. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 how about using a carriage return Carriage? What, he typed that on an old-style Smith-Corona? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 There is a precedent for it. Ditka trades all of his picks for one player and then 11 years later with a completely new team, staff and front office the Saints win the Super Bowl. It clearly worked. We would have won 4-5 Super Bowls by now if we did this every 11 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 How about not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The continued mentioning of Cutler as a possible good choice for the Bills is amusing. Like him or hate him, Cutler is far better than any UFA QB on the market and any QB currently on the Bills' roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filthymcnasty08 Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 What are you getting at again? Trade a bunch of picks for who? Not for Who…..for what. As in….what's behind door #3! I know it's good I just know it….BET EVERYTHING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I would only consider a trade like that if we got someone like Andrew Luck in return. By the way, it was easier to read the second time. Thanks for editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 The continued mentioning of Cutler as a possible good choice for the Bills is amusing. I strongly disagree. It's not amusing, it's terrifying. Remember the pick he threw to Kyle Williams? That is vintage Cutler. I would rather stick my hand in a blender and hit "puree" than to go through a season watching Cutler as our QB. We'd be better off trading a 6th round pick to Oakland for Matt Schaub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uffalo Ills Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 If you mean trading picks for a coach, I'd sell the barn for Chip Kelly. He's a perfect fit. For a Player? Nah. Players are less durable. Matt Ryan I'd trade for, but that wont happen. nor will any scenario... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 did I dead that right?? you would like to see a mass trade for any has been or unknown QB? Sorry but .... that's kind of dopey Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I would only consider a trade like that if we got someone like Andrew Luck in return. By the way, it was easier to read the second time. Thanks for editing. Sorry for not using a carriage(return) initially. Edited January 8, 2015 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris heff Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 For who? Both of the highly touted QBs in the draft scare me, Marriota looks good, but could be the system and Winston just has issues. As far as guys teams would be willing to trade, I'm not very impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) did I dead that right?? you would like to see a mass trade for any has been or unknown QB? Sorry but .... that's kind of dopey Dopey No you didn't "dead" it right. Try the edited version, sorry for the 1st one. The post was meant to provoke some conversation on what options we might have to get the most coveted position taken care of(next to a HC). Sort of like Mickey with his idea of a 6th for Schaub, or Uffalo Ills with his idea of trading for a coach. The names in my post were names already thrown out there by some on this board as options. What do you think we should do,BillsFan-4Ever? Edited January 8, 2015 by Dopey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 No you didn't "dead" it right. Try the edited version, sorry for the 1st one. The post was meant to provoke some conversation on what options we might have to get the most coveted position taken care of(next to a HC). Sort of like Mickey with his idea of a 6th for Schaub, or Uffalo Ills with his idea of trading for a coach. The names in my post were names already thrown out there by some on this board as options. What do you think we should do,BillsFan-4Ever? DOH cold fat fingers. I'm a dope!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tintonfallsbillsfan Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 If it's me I am preying for a comp pick for Bryd around round 4 and trading my 2 for more picks . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 We have a defense that many of us think is championship caliber( I know I do). This defensive line is relatively young, I didn't look it up but I think Kyle Williams is one of the few who I consider long in the tooth. But he's playing damn good football and probably has 3 good years left. Our LB's are young and Kiko is coming back. Our DB's are also pretty young, McKelvin is the oldest at 29 yrs. old. On Offense we are also relatively young. We have a young line that needs work, but young none the less except for Pears. I believe the young guys on the o-line will play a lot better with a year under their belts and hopefully better coaching. Young WR's as well with potential in Watkins and Woods. I like our ST with Carpenter and to me, our punter didn't stick out as a terrible punter. I also like the pickup of Thigpen. Rb's are pretty easy to get if the o-line does it's job. Having said all of this, we obviously feel we could use an upgrade at the QB position until EJ gets up to speed or it's determined he just can't cut it. If the staff feels there is a QB worth it, either a vet on a team already(RGIII, Cutler, Bradford etc.) or a rookie(Winston or Marriotta) would you be ok with a blockbuster trade to acquire this guy? When I say a Mike Ditka type of trade, it doesn't have to be all of our picks, but maybe most of the picks left to acquire this guy. We all seem to agree that we are a QB away from the playoffs and even a deep run in the playoffs. We should be able to find a guard or 2 that will be an improvement over Pears, even Williams coming back from injury would be an upgrade over Pears. I think we are close enough to being a complete team, that this thought actually crossed my mind. As young as this team is, we would have a 3-4 year run and 3 drafts to make up for this trade. Keep in mind the picks given up are not locks to be good(see this article http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2014/4/17/5623840/nfl-draft-saints-ricky-williams-mike-ditka-trade ). Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 8, 2015 Author Share Posted January 8, 2015 Oh, was that meant to be funny ? Nice try. Someone beat you to it. Thanks for playing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 8, 2015 Share Posted January 8, 2015 I could see something like this if it was for Marcus Mariotta or MAYBE even Winston if he were to grow up if he continues to do stupid things then let some one else have him but Whaley has proven to be a wheeler dealer so i wouldn't put any thing past him .. Go get them D. W. !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I wonder how many draft picks these 3 players would be worth.. Brady Rodgers Luck Brady because he's likely the best old man, more gas in the tank vs Peyton IMO. Rodgers because he's likely the best on his prime guy. Then Luck because he's likely the best younger QB. This obviously would never happen, it's just interesting to think how many picks a team would be will to offer for these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper13 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 We need trade proposals. 1. Bills- 2015 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 2016 1st to Atlanta for Matt Ryan. 2. Bills same 2015's plus 2016 1st and Dareus to Colts for Luck. 3. Bills same 2015's plus 2016 1st, 2017 1st and Dareus to GB for Rodgers. 4. Bills 2015 2nd, 3rd, 2016 1st and Dareus to Tampa Bay for 1st overall. 5. Bills 2015 2nd, 3rd, 2016 1st and 2017 conditional to Tennessee for 2nd overall. Anyone on either side do any of these? Anyone here do any of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Did you think any of this through before creating this thread? In what world would it take all or even most of the Bills picks to get Cutler or RG3? Do you really see the Bucs or Titans trading out of the top two spots without getting a first round pick back this year in return which the Bills obviously don't have? The enter key is ur friend. Edited January 10, 2015 by Max997 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 We need trade proposals. 1. Bills- 2015 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 2016 1st to Atlanta for Matt Ryan. 2. Bills same 2015's plus 2016 1st and Dareus to Colts for Luck. 3. Bills same 2015's plus 2016 1st, 2017 1st and Dareus to GB for Rodgers. 4. Bills 2015 2nd, 3rd, 2016 1st and Dareus to Tampa Bay for 1st overall. 5. Bills 2015 2nd, 3rd, 2016 1st and 2017 conditional to Tennessee for 2nd overall. Anyone on either side do any of these? Anyone here do any of these? I wouldn't include Dareus in any trade. He is our best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I would pull the trigger on number 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaninATL Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Like him or hate him, Cutler is far better than any UFA QB on the market and any QB currently on the Bills' roster. I'm sure you're aware Cutler is not an UFA ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Did you think any of this through before creating this thread? In what world would it take all or even most of the Bills picks to get Cutler or RG3? Do you really see the Bucs or Titans trading out of the top two spots without getting a first round pick back this year in return which the Bills obviously don't have? The enter key is ur friend. As long as my post was, yes, I did think it through. As for the enter key comment: you're kind of late to the party. Someone beat you to it. And I took the advice. But some still want to be smartasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 We have a defense that many of us think is championship caliber( I know I do). This defensive line is relatively young, I didn't look it up but I think Kyle Williams is one of the few who I consider long in the tooth. But he's playing damn good football and probably has 3 good years left. Our LB's are young and Kiko is coming back. Our DB's are also pretty young, McKelvin is the oldest at 29 yrs. old. On Offense we are also relatively young. We have a young line that needs work, but young none the less except for Pears. I believe the young guys on the o-line will play a lot better with a year under their belts and hopefully better coaching. Young WR's as well with potential in Watkins and Woods. I like our ST with Carpenter and to me, our punter didn't stick out as a terrible punter. I also like the pickup of Thigpen. Rb's are pretty easy to get if the o-line does it's job. Having said all of this, we obviously feel we could use an upgrade at the QB position until EJ gets up to speed or it's determined he just can't cut it. If the staff feels there is a QB worth it, either a vet on a team already(RGIII, Cutler, Bradford etc.) or a rookie(Winston or Marriotta) would you be ok with a blockbuster trade to acquire this guy? When I say a Mike Ditka type of trade, it doesn't have to be all of our picks, but maybe most of the picks left to acquire this guy. We all seem to agree that we are a QB away from the playoffs and even a deep run in the playoffs. We should be able to find a guard or 2 that will be an improvement over Pears, even Williams coming back from injury would be an upgrade over Pears. I think we are close enough to being a complete team, that this thought actually crossed my mind. As young as this team is, we would have a 3-4 year run and 3 drafts to make up for this trade. Keep in mind the picks given up are not locks to be good(see this article http://www.canalstreetchronicles.com/2014/4/17/5623840/nfl-draft-saints-ricky-williams-mike-ditka-trade ). Just a thought. Next year for Connor Cook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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