DC Tom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Again with you way over the top drug comparisons. And actually you are kind of making my point. Yes people have done heroin for a long time AND it's detrimental effects are obvious. What are the bad effects of MJ exactly? I just threw the historical aspect in because many here (you, DC, Chef etc) seem to think it was made illegal because it's dangerous which is totally NOT the case. Or, perhaps you think it's still important to protect Hurst's paper business. Not sure. Ironically these are some of the same people who want more "freedom" and smaller government. Don't presume to know what I think, boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Don't presume to know what I think, boy. I will presume whatever I want, boy. And I did say "seems to think", which I based on your numerous bloviations on the subject. Of course I have no idea what you really think, thank goodness for that. Edited April 17, 2015 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I will presume whatever I want, boy. And I did say "seems to think", which I based on your numerous bloviations on the subject. Of course I have no idea what you really think, thank goodness for that. If you'd actually read my "numerous blovations on the subject," you'd have noticed that they say nothing about pot. They're all about the complete inability of pot's rabid supporters to engage in any sort of critical thinking on the subject. For example: a definitive statement of "pot cures hiccups," without ANY consideration as to whether or not that's true (next time, try smoking a cigarette. Time after that, try breathing deeply. THEN maybe you have enough information for a reliable anecdote.) But that's still not NEARLY as bad as Bob's idiotic "Pot cures disease" nonsense this whole thread started with. I never said jack **** about pot. I mocked evangelical stoners who believe pot is magic (and who listen to Tom Petty...because Tom Petty is only tolerable when you're high). You'd know that, if you weren't too stoned to comprehend what you read. Why is it that the stoners who advocate legalized marijuana are invariably walking counter-arguments against pot use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Again with you way over the top drug comparisons. And actually you are kind of making my point. Yes people have done heroin for a long time AND it's detrimental effects are obvious. What are the bad effects of MJ exactly? I just threw the historical aspect in because many here (you, DC, Chef etc) seem to think it was made illegal because it's dangerous which is totally NOT the case. Or, perhaps you think it's still important to protect Hurst's paper business. Not sure. Ironically these are some of the same people who want more "freedom" and smaller government. Then you aren't reading. Or comprehending. Do you know how long it took to find out, and raise awareness of, the detrimental effects of heroin, or opioids in general? Edited April 17, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Well now YOU do. I hope you never get hiccups for 2 weeks like I did. But if you do, hopefully it won't be until after November 2016. That you can drive on down to the store and buy it once it's legal in your state too. I don't need to wait. I have a medical MJ card and 70% of a 1/16 I bought over Labor Day weekend. Don't presume to know what I think, boy. Ditto. I really hate presumptuous people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Someone needs to do more research on the medical uses of Meth. I hear people on it don't even care if an arm gets torn off. Plus, it makes you dig holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Someone needs to do more research on the medical uses of Meth. I hear people on it don't even care if an arm gets torn off. Plus, it makes you dig holes. In your own teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Someone needs to do more research on the medical uses of Meth. I hear people on it don't even care if an arm gets torn off. Plus, it makes you dig holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 MARIJUANA DEBATE HEATS UP: After an extensive 5-day fact-finding hearing, a federal judge in California yesterday ruled that it is not “irrational”–and thus does not offend the Constitution– for marijuana to be classified as a Schedule I drug (no legal uses) under the federal Controlled Substances Act (CSA). It is a blow to pro-marijuana advocates, who’ve had remarkable success in getting pot approved for medicinal use, and–in four states–even recreational use. Many legal experts anticipated that the judge, an Obama appointee, would take a “bold stand” and rule that marijuana cannot be completely banned under Schedule I. She suggested (showing remarkable restraint for an Obama appointee) that, as an unelected federal judge, it was not her place to effect such a substantial national policy change. President Obama (technically, the Attorney General) could, consistent with the CSA, reschedule marijuana by executive order. But for some reason, on this issue, the President has thus far refused to get out his infamous pen and phone, stating recently that he thinks Congress should amend the CSA to reschedule marijuana instead. And in perhaps the ultimate irony, the Supreme Court ruled in its 2005 decision, Gonzales v. Raich, that individuals who used medical marijuana pursuant to state compassionate use laws were not entitled to a constitutional exemption from the CSA, as the CSA is the supreme law of the land. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I don't need to wait. I have a medical MJ card and 70% of a 1/16 I bought over Labor Day weekend. Great. Hold onto it just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keukasmallies Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 If ignorance of foreign policy counts as a disease, I have an acquaintance-from-afar with POTUS....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Someone needs to do more research on the medical uses of Meth. I hear people on it don't even care if an arm gets torn off. Plus, it makes you dig holes. If you're going to compare marijuana with meth, you may as well also compare beer with liquid LSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbillievable Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 If you're going to compare marijuana with meth, you may as well also compare beer with liquid LSD. Meth has a better PR manager than marijuana. I am in favor of legalizing all drugs. I also think we should ban child-proof caps. Let the idiots kill themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 Meth has a better PR manager than marijuana. Based on this post, it's clear you need to stop taking meth. And probably go see a dentist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share Posted April 21, 2015 This link talks about over 20 health benefits http://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/21-health-benefits-of-marijuana/ar-AAboNFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Legalize everything. Sell it at licensed stores. You screw up, or you go to rehab, or whatever, your name goes on the list, and you can't buy for a set period. We don't record who buys, only stop those on the list from buying, using ID swipes. 3 strikes and you're out permanently. Tax the hell out of it, but, also sell an 8th of weed for $8, because corporate agro can do that, easy. $5 retail, $3 tax. You'll put the illegal guys out of business in a month. You'll also see a change in behavior from users: nobody wants to be on the list, man. Not when it means going back to paying $25-35. Make sure everything is clean...so hospital overdose costs are 95% removed. The state is making/saving money everywhere on this, most of which can be used to fund programs to help the people who have addiction problems. Nobody is getting killed over a street corner. It just became a lot safer to be a cop. Little girls don't get killed in their homes by stray bullets fired by untrained idiots. In all cases, the scumbags lose. This is at worst revenue neutral for the state. Lives are saved. And criminals no longer have massive wealth with which to buy power/corrupt law enforcement. Criminals don't have the power, because they don't have the $$$. There will always be criminals. Don't be an idiot. Legalized drugs simply means: crime goes back to NOT paying. Prison overcrowding goes down...the collateral solutions this approach creates are unending. This is the solution. And, it's like gravity. Both this solution, and gravity, have existed forever. The difference is: gravity has been "discovered". It's just a matter of time before everyone puts aside the emotional arguments and accepts the logical. When they do: this solution will be "discovered" as well. Edited April 21, 2015 by OCinBuffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Have to put this here: Police tweet busy stoner's to-do list after raiding home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Have to put this here: Police tweet busy stoner's to-do list after raiding home. Fake. A real to-do list from Australia would include "Avoid giant deadly spiders" and "Pet koala bears." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCinBuffalo Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 Bob, I just got a call from my tied for fifth cousin Brenda. She found out she has a disease but she doesn't know what disease she has. What kind of pot should she smoke? You do realize that this is the basic premise for the entire pharmaceutical industry, right? It's ironic that you'd post this in an effort to disparage weed. Where did Bob go? Oh come on. You guys spend pages and pages crying about getting trolled by long posts, and as soon as it stops, you ask "where did he go"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 You do realize that this is the basic premise for the entire pharmaceutical industry, right? It's ironic that you'd post this in an effort to disparage weed. Oh come on. You guys spend pages and pages crying about getting trolled by long posts, and as soon as it stops, you ask "where did he go"? That's one possibility. I choose to believe that pot cured his incessant need to proselytize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted May 19, 2015 Author Share Posted May 19, 2015 Here's an interesting read from the June 2015 National Geographic. (You can skip the registration on the site) http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2015/06/marijuana/sides-text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It's because I'm a chameleon. You should see my gatorman. I can't do gatorman. I've tried, but haven't figured out how to work the drool into text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Can we just call medicinal marijuana what it really is, that is, de facto legalization? Edited May 19, 2015 by LeviF91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/new-challenge-for-police-finding-pot-in-lollipops-and-marshmallows.html?_r=0 Candy. This is going to be bad for kids Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/new-challenge-for-police-finding-pot-in-lollipops-and-marshmallows.html?_r=0 Candy. This is going to be bad for kids Edibles have existed for a long, long, long, time and the kids are fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Edibles have existed for a long, long, long, time and the kids are fine. And now they are much more available. Did I just step on another Greg sacred cow? You are an emotional little twit, aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Edibles have existed for a long, long, long, time and the kids are fine. Human veal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 And now they are much more available. Did I just step on another Greg sacred cow? You are an emotional little twit, aren't you? Keep it classy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This fight between GreggyT and Gatorman us almost as good as the cripple fight between Jimmy and Timmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 This fight between GreggyT and Gatorman us almost as good as the cripple fight between Jimmy and Timmy. I have to disagree with you here. Greg is in no way a cripple. We don't always agree but he is perfectly capable of having a well reasoned position on the things he debates. Gator on the other hand will say stuff like, "Hey I'm a very "entilligent" person." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I have to disagree with you here. Greg is in no way a cripple. We don't always agree but he is perfectly capable of having a well reasoned position on the things he debates. Gator on the other hand will say stuff like, "Hey I'm a very "entilligent" person." Not true, I just think you are about as intelligent as a broken stone. That's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Spoiler alert: I have it on good authority that the last two episodes of The Walking Dead will involve marijuana research, a biplane crop duster and cured zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Spoiler alert: I have it on good authority that the last two episodes of The Walking Dead will involve marijuana research, a biplane crop duster and cured zombies. I sent you that script in SECRET! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/us/new-challenge-for-police-finding-pot-in-lollipops-and-marshmallows.html?_r=0 Candy. This is going to be bad for kids Good for Guitar and Pizza sales though. Eff those kids you speak of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Spoiler alert: I have it on good authority that the last two episodes of The Walking Dead will involve marijuana research, a biplane crop duster and cured zombies. Aren't zombies cured by definition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Aren't zombies cured by definition? That will be explained in the spinoff prequel. The start of the zombie thing was some reaaaaaalllllly good weed whose strain gets altered to reverse the effect in the finale of the main series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Aren't zombies cured by definition? Only if they're hung out for several weeks in the salty air along the coast of the Iberian peninsula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Only if they're hung out for several weeks in the salty air along the coast of the Iberian peninsula. You're confusing "curing" with "basquing in the sun." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Only if they're hung out for several weeks in the salty air along the coast of the Iberian peninsula. Mmmmm Iberian salt and air cured zombie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 You're confusing "curing" with "basquing in the sun." Nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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