Deranged Rhino Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Link Do you think pot caused him to be so stupid that he told the court he smoked pot? It sure didn't cure him from stupidity. Maybe he didn't smoke the stupid curing pot. I'll comment on this, because this is a completely ridiculous story and I'm usually a completely ridiculous person: It's a poorly kept secret that a lot of players in the League partake. So long as a player doesn't test positive, they are only tested once a year -- by August at the absolute latest. The guys who smoke (or vap) cleanse and abstain until they test, once they pass they spark back up for the rest of the year knowing they're in the clear. Let's say AP is one of the 49% of players who partake (that number is a guess but a conservative one), he passed his test in August and -- considering the stress he's probably been enduring since this whole story broke -- there were probably more than a few times when he self medicated. This story broke less than 30 days ago, including the arrest. Weed stays in your system for 30+ days. Imagine you've been under the microscope the way AP has since this ordeal began and you knew you were going to piss positive, I can understand how in that situation you'd say something up front about what they're going to find. That in no way means he smoked since his arrest, let alone right before his hearing. Regardless of how you feel about the drug and it's effects, it's in the final days of its prohibition. As a District Attorney part of the job is to exercise judgement, calling for his bail to be revoked is sensationalizing and already sensationalized story and reeks of a political move by a DA who wants to take as much of the limelight for himself as he can. And the media's treatment of this story just further underlines how ridiculous the fourth estate has become. Edited October 10, 2014 by GreggyT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I'll comment on this, because this is a completely ridiculous story and I'm usually a completely ridiculous person: It's a poorly kept secret that a lot of players in the League partake. So long as a player doesn't test positive, they are only tested once a year -- by August at the absolute latest. The guys who smoke (or vap) cleanse and abstain until they test, once they pass they spark back up for the rest of the year knowing they're in the clear. Let's say AP is one of the 49% of players who partake (that number is a guess but a conservative one), he passed his test in August and -- considering the stress he's probably been enduring since this whole story broke -- there were probably more than a few times when he self medicated. This story broke less than 30 days ago, including the arrest. Weed stays in your system for 30+ days. Imagine you've been under the microscope the way AP has since this ordeal began and you knew you were going to piss positive, I can understand how in that situation you'd say something up front about what they're going to find. That in no way means he smoked since his arrest, let alone right before his hearing. Regardless of how you feel about the drug and it's effects, it's in the final days of its prohibition. As a District Attorney part of the job is to exercise judgement, calling for his bail to be revoked is sensationalizing and already sensationalized story and reeks of a political move by a DA who wants to take as much of the limelight for himself as he can. And the media's treatment of this story just further underlines how ridiculous the fourth estate has become. He probably "smoked a little weed" just like the guy who gets pulled over for weaving all over the road "had one beer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 He probably "smoked a little weed" just like the guy who gets pulled over for weaving all over the road "had one beer". Even if he did, he wasn't operating a motor vehicle. Unless you count Mario Kart. Which should totally count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 There is a disease call racial tension in Missouri. Can pot cure this Bob or did pot cause it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 There is a disease call racial tension in Missouri. Can pot cure this Bob or did pot cause it? Oh, pot can cure racial tension. It's my second choice though on how to combat the issue. The first choice (which I can't claim as my own but I still think is the best) is for everyone to just keep f*cking everyone else and sooner or later we'll all be the same color anyway. Sex and pot. The best cures for racial strife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Oh, pot can cure racial tension. It's my second choice though on how to combat the issue. The first choice (which I can't claim as my own but I still think is the best) is for everyone to just keep f*cking everyone else and sooner or later we'll all be the same color anyway. Sex and pot. The best cures for racial strife. Huh? The white man has been !@#$ing the black man for centuries and we still have racial strife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Huh? The white man has been !@#$ing the black man for centuries and we still have racial strife. Only because the white man has been doing it wrong, they've been f*cking over everyone else when they need to be actually inside them to be of help. Again, pot would help with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Oh, pot can cure racial tension. It's my second choice though on how to combat the issue. The first choice (which I can't claim as my own but I still think is the best) is for everyone to just keep f*cking everyone else and sooner or later we'll all be the same color anyway. Sex and pot. The best cures for racial strife. Yes, I know all my sexual relationships have been completely free of strife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Yes, I know all my sexual relationships have been completely free of strife. Your hand is strife free? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 There is a disease call racial tension in Missouri. Can pot cure this Bob or did pot cause it? Autopsy says that Michael Brown was high on pot, so he was doing his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Your hand is strife free? That's the best you could do? That tired, old cliche? You at least could have been original, and said "your dog" or "your picnic table." You're such an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Autopsy says that Michael Brown was high on had pot in his system, so he was doing his part. Big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Autopsy says that Michael Brown was high on pot, so he was doing his part. Cofuseious say man standing on toilet is high on pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 That's the best you could do? That tired, old cliche? You at least could have been original, and said "your dog" or "your picnic table." You're such an idiot. Just figured that's all you had time for while away from constantly posting here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Big difference. No, the autopsy said he was high, based on THC measurements in his blood. Admittedly, that has to be taken with a very large grain of salt, as the correlation between THC blood serum levels and impairment are still very poorly defined. People are working on it, as people are starting to realize that "legalized marijuana" means that "driving while impaired" laws have to take in to account a deterministic measurement of impairment by marijuana. One would think that would be easy, but the only certain method - offer them tickets to a Tom Petty concert, and see if they attend - doesn't work reliably on dead people, largely because of difficulties in identification in distinguishing corpses from Tom Petty himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Where did Bob go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 Where did Bob go? He took his ball and went home, because we refused to bow to his brilliance and demeaned him for attempting to educate us ignorant bumpkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Sanjay Gupta's new Weed 3 special will be on this Sunday, April 19th, at 9pm eastern on CNN. In this article he talks about the upcoming show. http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/opinions/medical-marijuana-revolution-sanjay-gupta/index.html From the article: There is now promising research into the use of marijuana that could impact tens of thousands children and adults, including treatment for cancer, epilepsy and Alzheimer's, to name a few. With regard to pain alone, marijuana could greatly reduce the demand for narcotics and simultaneously decrease the number of accidental painkiller overdoses, which are the greatest cause of preventable death in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Like wow, man. I think I'll watch it, but i wanna do a bong first, man. Like ya godda watch **** like thank stoned man, like ya godda, ya no what I meen. Eye don't think eye cood watch it like strate man. It shood be really really good man, like it's importnat **** man, no. rieally. like really , realey impotent **** man. i dew know no y noone wood knot watshit. Ya no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Sanjay Gupta's new Weed 3 special will be on this Sunday, April 19th, at 9pm eastern on CNN. In this article he talks about the upcoming show. http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/opinions/medical-marijuana-revolution-sanjay-gupta/index.html From the article: There is now promising research into the use of marijuana that could impact tens of thousands children and adults, including treatment for cancer, epilepsy and Alzheimer's, to name a few. With regard to pain alone, marijuana could greatly reduce the demand for narcotics and simultaneously decrease the number of accidental painkiller overdoses, which are the greatest cause of preventable death in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) While no stranger to marijuana I too was skeptical of the "medical Marijuana" thing. I thought that AIDs patients took it to help them be able to eat I though, yeah, they get high and get the munchies. But then I had an experience with it and it totally changed my tune. In September of last year after the Bills beat the Bears I popped open a Diet Mountain Dew and took a swig. Got some down the wrong pipe and got the hiccups. They didn't go away. None of the usual remedies like drinking water after holding my breath etc. worked. After a couple of days I called my doctor and was advised to go to ER. After many tests I was sent home with a clean bill of health and some pills that were supposed to stop it. They didn't. They were some strong stuff and made me sleep. I missed work. After the Bills squished the Fish (with EJ at QB) I started to get diagphram spams which caused to not be able to breathe for about 10 seconds at a time. Specialists did more tests to no avail. My wife suggested maybe I should go down to the store and buy some weed (we can do that in the state we live in without a prescription). I did a little internet research and read of a guy with similar symptoms showcased on the Gupta program mentioned above. So I did. I went to the store and bought some. I waited and and about 9:30 that night the spasms started again. I went outside and took 1 hit. The hiccups and diaphragm spasms were gone and never came back. I don't know, it helped me with what I had. Anecdotal perhaps but since it happened to me, like I say, I've changed my tune. It can help some people. Who cares if scientific studies have shown it or not? I don't. Edited April 17, 2015 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Awesome. Weed cures hiccups. Who knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 While no stranger to marijuana I too was skeptical of the "medical Marijuana" thing. I thought that AIDs patients took it to help them be able to eat I though, yeah, they get high and get the munchies. But then I had an experience with it and it totally changed my tune. In September of last year after the Bills beat the Bears I popped open a Diet Mountain Dew and took a swig. Got some down the wrong pipe and got the hiccups. They didn't go away. None of the usual remedies like drinking water after holding my breath etc. worked. After a couple of days I called my doctor and was advised to go to ER. After many tests I was sent home with a clean bill of health and some pills that were supposed to stop it. They didn't. They were some strong stuff and made me sleep. I missed work. After the Bills squished the Fish (with EJ at QB) I started to get diagphram spams which caused to not be able to breathe for about 10 seconds at a time. Specialists did more tests to no avail. My wife suggested maybe I should go down to the store and buy some weed (we can do that in the state we live in without a prescription). I did a little internet research and read of a guy with similar symptoms showcased on the Gupta program mentioned above. So I did. I went to the store and bought some. I waited and and about 9:30 that night the spasms started again. I went outside and took 1 hit. The hiccups and diaphragm spasms were gone and never came back. I don't know, it helped me with what I had. Anecdotal perhaps but since it happened to me, like I say, I've changed my tune. It can help some people. Who cares if scientific studies have shown it or not? I don't. Doctors and scientists. We don't want another thalidomide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Anecdotal perhaps but since it happened to me, like I say, I've changed my tune. It can help some people. Who cares if scientific studies have shown it or not? I don't. I recently had recurring nausea for two solid weeks, and that's the only thing that would settle my stomach long enough for me to sleep. We don't want another thalidomide. You're not seriously making a comparison between marijuana and thalidomide, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) I recently had recurring nausea for two solid weeks, and that's the only thing that would settle my stomach long enough for me to sleep. You're not seriously making a comparison between marijuana and thalidomide, are you? No. But thalidomide is an example of why extensive research is important. Edited April 17, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I recently had recurring nausea for two solid weeks, and that's the only thing that would settle my stomach long enough for me to sleep. You're not seriously making a comparison between marijuana and thalidomide, are you? That's what makes PPP so special. There's no in between marijuana being God's greatest natural herb and the worst nightmare inflicted on the human race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Awesome. Weed cures hiccups. Who knew. Could very well be that breathing deeply cured his hiccups, and the pot was irrelevant. That's why anecdote is a ****ty scientific principle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 That's what makes PPP so special. There's no in between marijuana being God's greatest natural herb and the worst nightmare inflicted on the human race. You've sure got that right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 You've sure got that right. No he didn't! He's completely wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 No he didn't! He's completely wrong... No, I'm 100% right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 No, I'm 100% right Are you stoned again because you sure sound like you're stoned again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 No, I'm 100% right Stop obfuscating with details and define "100%." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Are you stoned again because you sure sound like you're stoned again. Im am certain to a 3.5 average probability that I'm 100% right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I think everyone here is snorting thalidomide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Im am certain to a 3.5 average probability that I'm 100% right. Well...double dumbass on you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Well...double dumbass on you! I'll smack you with my evolutionary advanced tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Awesome. Weed cures hiccups. Who knew. Well now YOU do. I hope you never get hiccups for 2 weeks like I did. But if you do, hopefully it won't be until after November 2016. That you can drive on down to the store and buy it once it's legal in your state too. Doctors and scientists. We don't want another thalidomide. I wasn't trying to say that testing of drugs is not important. However we're not talking about some new fangled drug. People have been using it forever. Have you ever researched why it is illegal? Maybe you should. Hint: Big business and big money and racial fear were the driving forces, not any kind of real danger. I recently had recurring nausea for two solid weeks, and that's the only thing that would settle my stomach long enough for me to sleep. You're not seriously making a comparison between marijuana and thalidomide, are you? It does help with stomach problems. Part of the hiccup thing was my stomach feeling like it was in knots. I didn't eat vary much. After my hit I was able to eat once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Well now YOU do. I hope you never get hiccups for 2 weeks like I did. But if you do, hopefully it won't be until after November 2016. That you can drive on down to the store and buy it once it's legal in your state too. I wasn't trying to say that testing of drugs is not important. However we're not talking about some new fangled drug. People have been using it forever. Have you ever researched why it is illegal? Maybe you should. Hint: Big business and big money and racial fear were the driving forces, not any kind of real danger. It does help with stomach problems. Part of the hiccup thing was my stomach feeling like it was in knots. I didn't eat vary much. After my hit I was able to eat once again. I know its history. I don't know why that's relevant. How can you prove there's not a "real danger" if "scientific studies haven't shown" much of anything? The argument that "people have been using it forever" applied to heroin too. Edited April 17, 2015 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) I know its history. I don't know why that's relevant. The argument that "people have been using it forever" applied to heroin too. Again with you way over the top drug comparisons. And actually you are kind of making my point. Yes people have done heroin for a long time AND it's detrimental effects are obvious. What are the bad effects of MJ exactly? I just threw the historical aspect in because many here (you, DC, Chef etc) seem to think it was made illegal because it's dangerous which is totally NOT the case. Or, perhaps you think it's still important to protect Hurst's paper business. Not sure. Ironically these are some of the same people who want more "freedom" and smaller government. Edited April 17, 2015 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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