YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I always thought restructure just means the player gets the same money it is just allocated differently to decrease the cap number. They aren't getting less money than the deal they actually signed. That's my understanding as well. They took on his contract by trading for him, so he is indeed getting paid that much unless he is cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanCity Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Despite Williams troubled past, I am happy with this move. Great size, speed and hands and going to be coached by the guy under whom he put up an incredible 7 game run at Syracuse prior to quitting/being booted off the team (depends who you ask). You have to know that Marrone signed off on this, so prospects are good that he believes he can work with him. The Bills receiving corps absolutely improves with this addition. Edited April 4, 2014 by VanCity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Despite Williams troubled past, I am happy with this move. Great size, speed and hands and going to be coached by the guy under whom he put up an incredible 7 game run at Syracuse prior to quitting/being booted off the team (depends who you ask). You have to know that Marrone signed off on this, so prospects are good that he beleives he can work with him. The Bills receiving corps absolutely improves with this addition. Not to mention his old WR coach, Rob Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I always thought restructure just means the player gets the same money it is just allocated differently to decrease the cap number. They aren't getting less money than the deal they actually signed. thats the traditional way writers use the term. it could potentially mean any type of changes to the old deal though, if the person doesnt adhere to that social norm in using the word (which not 100% do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) I don't think this should automatically preclude a Mike Evans pick at all, unless he is just plain gone by the time we pick. Williams is a legitimate receiver in this league (190 rec, 2700 yds, and 24 TDs in his first three years) and his contract is very cap friendly even with Johnson and a potential first round WR pick. The issue don't arise now , but after 2014 when Johnson and Williams' contracts get substantial larger. I love the trade and I don't necessarily believe it has to imply a change in supposed direction on draft day...well, draft - day 1. Edited April 4, 2014 by dollars 2 donuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kellyto83TD Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I love the trade! If he can do what several athletes have done and make this a clean slate and live up to his potential...WHEW! This kid when he is on is one of the better WR's in the NFL. This could be the steal of the offseason if he pans out I don't think this should automatically preclude a Mike Evans pick at all, unless he is just plain gone by the time we pick. Williams is a legitimate receiver in this league (190 rec, 2700 yds, and 24 TDs in his first three years) and his contract is very cap friendly even with Johnson and a potential first round WR pick. The issue don't arise now , but after 2014 when Johnson and Williams' contracts get substantial larger. I love the trade and I don't necessarily believe it has to imply a change in supposed direction on draft day...well, draft - day 1. No way we go WR now, we are loaded. Ebron or trade down is my guess at this point. I mean damn we will have people lined up to get our cast offs at WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Good pick-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfaninky Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Good pick up, it is nice to see the Bills active instead of just sitting back doing nothing in the offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 John Kryk @JohnKryk 4m For those keeping track at home, Bills' Williamses now include Mario, Kyle, Aaron, Chris, Nathan, Duke and Mike. Just for grins, I went to NFL.com where they have a list of the top 400 prospects for the draft and there are only 2 Williams' listed, both running backs. Andre Williams- Boston College Damien Williams- Oklahoma There are also still 2 Williams' remaining in the free agent market Dantan Williams- WR (Ten) Kevin Williams- DT (Min) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Just for grins, I went to NFL.com where they have a list of the top 400 prospects for the draft and there are only 2 Williams' listed, both running backs. Andre Williams- Boston College Damien Williams- Oklahoma There are also still 2 Williams' remaining in the free agent market Dantan Williams- WR (Ten) Kevin Williams- DT (Min) FWIW, Andre Williams is a name that has been linked a LOT to the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 His off the field concerns do seem to be overblown to a large extent. I mean, serious, who hasn't been stabbed by their brother once or twice? Or cheated on a test. Or caused a $54,000 fire. There is "misunderstood," and then there is "completely misunderstood." I guess ultimately, like everything, we all have opinions here and we all will just have to wait and see how it pans out. In effect, this is a contract year for him. If he plays well, he either gets a new one or the 7m he will be owed. If he tanks, he is likely out on the street having been let go in two straight years by two straight marginal teams, and will likely have to sign a prove it to me deal. (I'm not sure where the reports of Williams still be guaranteed 9m are coming from. If that is the case, I'm even less thrilled with the trade). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Wow. No Evans for us. Not necessarily I love the trade! If he can do what several athletes have done and make this a clean slate and live up to his potential...WHEW! This kid when he is on is one of the better WR's in the NFL. This could be the steal of the offseason if he pans out No way we go WR now, we are loaded. Ebron or trade down is my guess at this point. I mean damn we will have people lined up to get our cast offs at WR Loaded with numbers but not necessarily top talent. It's very good but not great yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Any time you just assign a number of catches as an indicator of talent or effectiveness, it's an entirely worthless argument. Chandlers 53 catches the way he played two years ago is a good season. Chandler's 53 catches last year when he dropped a lot, lost games by fumbling, had the most ill timed bad plays hurting the team, etc, is a crappy year. Why do you think he garnered zero interest in FA? I know. Because he was terrible last year. Hopefully it will be an aberration. But no matter what, he can't do what today's good TEs all do because he doesn't have the speed, skills or athleticism. I prefer tangible results. Drafting a tackle or WR at 9 will IMO have a more tangible effect on the the team. To worry how Glenn's future might possibly be affected 2 years down the road doesn't concern me and I hope that it doesn't concern the front office if they feel that the best player for them at 9 is a tackle. If the they feel that the best player for them is a WR then I hope that they choose that guy. I personally do not think that any tight end in the draft is worth the 9th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I love this move! And I also love that it implies we will not draft Mike Evans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Great risk/reward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Okay when are they going to just rename this team "The Williams" Bills is the nickname for Williams His off the field concerns do seem to be overblown to a large extent. I mean, serious, who hasn't been stabbed by their brother once or twice? Or cheated on a test. Or caused a $54,000 fire. There is "misunderstood," and then there is "completely misunderstood." I guess ultimately, like everything, we all have opinions here and we all will just have to wait and see how it pans out. In effect, this is a contract year for him. If he plays well, he either gets a new one or the 7m he will be owed. If he tanks, he is likely out on the street having been let go in two straight years by two straight marginal teams, and will likely have to sign a prove it to me deal. (I'm not sure where the reports of Williams still be guaranteed 9m are coming from. If that is the case, I'm even less thrilled with the trade). Well people were pissing and moaning about choir boys only. Certainly not the case anymore... Spikes, alanszo, Williams, Duke, I love this move! And I also love that it implies we will not draft Mike Evans They may not think he will be there??? Or don't want to bank on a rookie WR? The line up will be; Woods Williams, Stevie, Goodwin, and a WR they draft this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I really believe that the Bills have seen enough of Stevie and will take Evans if he's there and try to peddle Stevie J. But I bet they don't get anything more than the 6th they gave away. Interesting I checked Twitter and Mike Williams doesn't have an account to follow unless he dumped it at some point. I guess we'll find out if Williams stabbing injury and hammy are healed when he has to pass the physical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 4, 2014 Author Share Posted April 4, 2014 Well people were pissing and moaning about choir boys only. Certainly not the case anymore... Spikes, alanszo, Williams, Duke I've seen a lot of misspelled names here in my day but Alanszo takes the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I've seen a lot of misspelled names here in my day but Alanszo takes the cake. Maybe it phone-etiquitly-spelled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Long thread, don't know if it's been mentioned but do we know if there'd be dead cap in the event we cut him after his first year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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