goynahan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Per Chris Brown's tweet. Traded? Cut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 distraught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goynahan Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Oh wait trade deadline has passed. cut? I literally hold my breath everytime a ball is thrown his way because it seems he's good for a drop/fumble quite frequently. He makes alot of great plays and has shown good hands and the ability to get open but he might be more unreliable than stevie in a big moment. Edited December 5, 2013 by goynahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Per Chris Brown's tweet. Traded? Cut? certainly not traded, as its well past the deadline. cutting him a month early would seem silly - may as well let him count in our comp pick equation as an expiring contract and i doubt were going with gragg and smith as our TEs this week. im going with "tending to other business or treatment" as my own throwing things at the wall guess. Edited December 5, 2013 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 recovering from contusions on his forehead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Oh wait trade deadline has passed. cut? I literally hold my breath everytime a ball is thrown his way because it seems he's good for a drop/fumble quite frequently. He makes alot of great plays and has shown good hands and the ability to get open but he might be more unreliable than stevie in a big moment. chandler definitely seems to be have a sub-par year. he has lot a lot of really bad drops this year and hasn't come close to making the plays he has in the past. he's never been a fast guy or a strong blocker, but he has that huge reach and has, in the past, had really good hands. seems like a good guy, good teammate, good player. i hope he can get his head right, because i thinik that he is a valuable player to this team when he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He fumbled the practice schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No way they cut him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He fumbled the practice schedule. Interesting situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playman Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 dropped by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 The blood of Tashard Choice is on Chandler's hands. He's probably just washing it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 He fumbled the practice schedule. It was probably knocked out of his hand by the 83-year old janitor walking by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 It was probably knocked out of his hand by the 83-year old janitor walking by. Damn! Another turnover. @buffalobills Doug Marrone: Scott Chandler DNP today. He and his wife are expecting the birth of their child soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Damn! Another turnover. @buffalobills Doug Marrone: Scott Chandler DNP today. He and his wife are expecting the birth of their child soon. No way. There must be some conspiracy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 No way. There must be some conspiracy! Nope, but don't let Scott hold the baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Damn! Another turnover. @buffalobills Doug Marrone: Scott Chandler DNP today. He and his wife are expecting the birth of their child soon. Hopefully, he tucks that little one away carefully under his arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goynahan Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) just some extra info I meant to post earlier. good ol' scotty has 4 fumbles in 123 career catches. Here's some other TE #s A Gates - 5 fumbles in 706 career catches J Witten - 5 fumbles in 860 career catches T Gonzalez - 6 fumbles in 1304 career catches B Celek - 1 fumble in 303 career catches not at all saying he's in their league, but holding onto the ball is holding on the ball and the dude has a serious problem with it Edited December 5, 2013 by goynahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Chandler is typically the biggest guy on the field. But he certainly doesn't play up to his size. He should be swatting these 190 pound corners off of him like flies. I've seen enough, I'm ready for the Bills to get a more athletic tight end or take a chance on a former basketball player like the Chargers did with Antonio Gates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Somebody tossed him a question and he dropped it, then fell down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yes Chandler is having a subpar season, and I think the biggest problem with that is how the Bills have used him this season. Whose idea was it to have Chandler roll out to be a check down option? That has been one of the worst plays the Bills have run all season. Chandler is much better in the open field, and he can get first downs. I know he has had fumble issues, that is no excuse for not using your Tight End correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonInBuffalo Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Bills management probably decided to make him unavailable so he wouldn't have to answer questions about you-know-what. Whenever I've seen him on TV without his helmet on, he reminded me of someone, but I couldn't place it. Finally figured it out. He reminds me of Butthead, as in Bevis and... Anyone else notice the resemblance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Chandler is a guy we picked up off the dumpster. I think he's played above his head for the most part. Definitely an off year this year for sure. Last week being the most obvious example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yes Chandler is having a subpar season, and I think the biggest problem with that is how the Bills have used him this season. Whose idea was it to have Chandler roll out to be a check down option? That has been one of the worst plays the Bills have run all season. Chandler is much better in the open field, and he can get first downs. I know he has had fumble issues, that is no excuse for not using your Tight End correctly. That's what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) what a bunch of jamokes, trashing Chandler, throwing out conspiracy theories blah blah blah Congrats to the Chandlers on their soon to be baby at least someone did some research Damn! Another turnover. @buffalobills Doug Marrone: Scott Chandler DNP today. He and his wife are expecting the birth of their child soon. Edited December 5, 2013 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Lets not forget so quickly that Gailey had Chandler performing pretty darned well. I think he has been miscast this season and suffered. And the major injury has taken away what little spring he had . That being said i would prefer to think he still has value if used to his strengths . and he is a for sure a good teamate and thankful to be given the chance. Coach Hackett please just let a little of C. Gaileys play calling bleed into yours ! Spiller, SJ and S Chandler would benefit from that i bet. Congrats Scott and family !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 When people say, "having a subpar year", what exactly are you referring to? He is on pace for career highs in catches and yards. He is currently 15th best in the league among TEs for catches and yards. He is actually on pace to finish with the second-most receiving yards by a tight end in franchise single-season history, second only to the legendary Paul Costa in 1967. That's more than Metzelaars, more than McKellar. This is all after coming back incredibly fast from a bad knee injury at the end of last season. He has one fumble on the season. Yes, it was a big one. Yes, his TD numbers are down from previous years. No, he is not an elite talent, and yes, I'd like to see someone more dominating at the position. But I'm still trying to understand how this all equates to a sub-par year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) Chandler, like David Nelson, Donald Jones and Stevie Johnson are basically products of Chan Gailey's system, IMO. Now that Chan is gone those guys won't be far behind. Obviously Nelson and Jones are already out. I suspect that Chandler and Johnson will both be replaced within a couple of years, max. Edited December 6, 2013 by vincec Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Per Chris Brown's tweet. Traded? Cut? Wife having their fourth child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 When people say, "having a subpar year", what exactly are you referring to? He is on pace for career highs in catches and yards. He is currently 15th best in the league among TEs for catches and yards. He is actually on pace to finish with the second-most receiving yards by a tight end in franchise single-season history, second only to the legendary Paul Costa in 1967. That's more than Metzelaars, more than McKellar. This is all after coming back incredibly fast from a bad knee injury at the end of last season. He has one fumble on the season. Yes, it was a big one. Yes, his TD numbers are down from previous years. No, he is not an elite talent, and yes, I'd like to see someone more dominating at the position. But I'm still trying to understand how this all equates to a sub-par year. May i suggest he has had some drops , or lack of extension for seemingly well thrown balls ? But his blocking , or lack of it has been very noticable and defined some plays and or drives . as i have said i like the guy but he has struggled with execution this year. Thats just my opinion and i dont do stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) When people say, "having a subpar year", what exactly are you referring to? He is on pace for career highs in catches and yards. He is currently 15th best in the league among TEs for catches and yards. He is actually on pace to finish with the second-most receiving yards by a tight end in franchise single-season history, second only to the legendary Paul Costa in 1967. That's more than Metzelaars, more than McKellar. This is all after coming back incredibly fast from a bad knee injury at the end of last season. He has one fumble on the season. Yes, it was a big one. Yes, his TD numbers are down from previous years. No, he is not an elite talent, and yes, I'd like to see someone more dominating at the position. But I'm still trying to understand how this all equates to a sub-par year. don't mind them they are a bunch of Rubes. and if you really think about it If it wasn't for Chandler this team could be 0-12 Edited December 6, 2013 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 don't mind them they are a bunch of Rubes. and if you really think about it If it wasn't for Chandler this team could be 0-12 OR.......not : ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Chandler is typically the biggest guy on the field. But he certainly doesn't play up to his size. He should be swatting these 190 pound corners off of him like flies. I've seen enough, I'm ready for the Bills to get a more athletic tight end or take a chance on a former basketball player like the Chargers did with Antonio Gates This is my beef with him. Everyone drops now and again, everyone fumbles, learn from it, move on. But Chandler just doesn't play up to his size, in any role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 (edited) This is my beef with him. Everyone drops now and again, everyone fumbles, learn from it, move on. But Chandler just doesn't play up to his size, in any role. I am kind of surprised by the hostility at Chandler but I gotta' wonder if he played with a winning organization if expectations of his performance wouldn't be higher and subsequently his preparation might be different. Elite teams are in dogfight games A LOT. Their players know when they have to raise their game because they are in those situations a lot. I was re-watching the Toronto game and the exact same route Stevie ran on his infamous fumble was run by him earlier in the game. But, of course, he was able to easily get out of bounds the first time. However, at the end of the game a now desperate defender chased him down and attacked the football knowing that a tackle at that point wasn't going to do his team much good. A player on a team that is used to playing in big games KNOWS to expects this. A loser does not. I don't think Chandler was born a loser, but that is the problem with losing.......it's contagious.....and pretty soon even your head coach starts lamenting how hard it is to win in the NFL. I have to wonder if perhaps Chandler would also have worked harder on how to hold the football......and perhaps even arm strength......if one of his previous fumbles had been for a more demanding organization. Edited December 6, 2013 by BADOLBEELZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 He fumbled the practice schedule. HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Only after watching SJ do the exact same thing 30 seconds before! When people say, "having a subpar year", what exactly are you referring to? He is on pace for career highs in catches and yards. He is currently 15th best in the league among TEs for catches and yards. He is actually on pace to finish with the second-most receiving yards by a tight end in franchise single-season history, second only to the legendary Paul Costa in 1967. That's more than Metzelaars, more than McKellar. This is all after coming back incredibly fast from a bad knee injury at the end of last season. He has one fumble on the season. Yes, it was a big one. Yes, his TD numbers are down from previous years. No, he is not an elite talent, and yes, I'd like to see someone more dominating at the position. But I'm still trying to understand how this all equates to a sub-par year. You are correct that he is having a good year. I think most people's frustration is that he could be having an even better year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 When people say, "having a subpar year", what exactly are you referring to? He is on pace for career highs in catches and yards. He is currently 15th best in the league among TEs for catches and yards. He is actually on pace to finish with the second-most receiving yards by a tight end in franchise single-season history, second only to the legendary Paul Costa in 1967. That's more than Metzelaars, more than McKellar. This is all after coming back incredibly fast from a bad knee injury at the end of last season. He has one fumble on the season. Yes, it was a big one. Yes, his TD numbers are down from previous years. No, he is not an elite talent, and yes, I'd like to see someone more dominating at the position. But I'm still trying to understand how this all equates to a sub-par year. I think you are somewhat confusing production as a #1 TE that's stayed healthy and received targets, with having a good year. I think most good tight ends would do more with the opportunities he's got - even if he's got more yards than our tight ends in an era with 40% less passing yards being racked up by teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 @buffalobills Doug Marrone: Scott Chandler DNP today. He and his wife are expecting the birth of their child soon. I love that several hours after this was posted there are still those that think it's all a conspiracy. And maybe it is, how did Chandler know to know his wife up so far in advance that he would miss media day after a killer fumble? Did Goodell let him know in advance which game he would be throwing? Also, Gug won the thread. Choice's life was in your hands Dude Chandler... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Chandler is typically the biggest guy on the field. But he certainly doesn't play up to his size. He should be swatting these 190 pound corners off of him like flies. I've seen enough, I'm ready for the Bills to get a more athletic tight end or take a chance on a former basketball player like the Chargers did with Antonio Gates Agreed. Chandler's run blocking has got increasingly worse during his career, and it was never good to begin with. His only positive is that he has good hands for a guy his size, he was a former WR. But he doesn't really use his size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Damn! Another turnover. @buffalobills Doug Marrone: Scott Chandler DNP today. He and his wife are expecting the birth of their child soon. Ha! What a convenient excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 I think you are somewhat confusing production as a #1 TE that's stayed healthy and received targets, with having a good year. I think most good tight ends would do more with the opportunities he's got - even if he's got more yards than our tight ends in an era with 40% less passing yards being racked up by teams So even though his performance is on par with his best yet, and is statistically better than half the starting TEs in the league, we're not satisfied because he should be doing better? Not that I'm totally arguing that -- I do think a ruthless review of the roster needs to identify guys who are just "good". I'm just not sure I would qualify his year as "sub-par". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Phoenix Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Yes, because receiving statistics are mostly based on opportunity. Hey, I got to say that in a topic not based on Stevie's meaningless 1000 yard seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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