OCinBuffalo Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/42904/309/wow-now-thats-rich-13 Yikes. After reading that, it's almost as if I don't want us to sign anybody ever again. Do you agree with this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 The good news is there were no Bills on that list. One thing with Russ running the show is that the contracts will be well structured. There is a lot of money to earn for the QBs but it is built in with bonuses and escalators. You do often have to overspend to get top players to Buffalo but I am glad that they are not overspending this year for guys that are not difference makers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Ellerbe was a big one for me. The guy has played half a season full time and hes worth 7 million? Mike Wallace is another one, Good player, wasn't even the best reciever on his team last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floridabillsfan1 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Add Kevin Kolb ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSandwhich Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Add Kevin Kolb ? His contract is reportedly laced with incentives. Reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Ellerbe was a big one for me. The guy has played half a season full time and hes worth 7 million? Mike Wallace is another one, Good player, wasn't even the best reciever on his team last year Well said. Free agency is the msot overblown thing ever. Teams don't win championships with FAs unless they are a QB (which rarely happens) or a pass rusher. I'm fine with overspending for Mario. But to overspend on guards, receivers, or LBs, it's fools' gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Add Kevin Kolb ? Only if you think paying $2-3M for a veteran backup QB is "wildly overspending." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Week 1 of FA is for suckers. Guys rarely play up to these huge contracts and they are frequently huge busts. Winners are built via the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Only if you think paying $2-3M for a veteran backup QB is "wildly overspending." Actually isn't he making 13 million over the next two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Actually isn't he making 13 million over the next two years? Actually, no -- unless he plays a lot. And if he's playing a lot, that means (a) he's healthy and (b) he's probably playing pretty well. Under that scenario, he's still not overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todzilla Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Kolb is many things, some good and some bad, but he is not overpaid. The Bills can get out at 1 year and $3m. That's an acceptable risk to me. Still would have liked to keep Levitre, but he is getting too much for a guard I would say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 12. Titans guard Andy Levitre Levitre is a good football player and will help the Titans at a needy position, but they paid an awful lot to get him. Levitre's six-year contract averages $7.8 million annually with a $10.5 million signing bonus. The market's other top young free-agent guards -- Louis Vasquez (Broncos) and Donald Thomas (Colts) -- were far better values at $5.875 million and $3.5 million, respectively. The Titans are essentially paying Levitre left tackle money. Indeed, he's making more per season than Tennessee's own left tackle, Michael Roos. (Perhaps Roos should request a raise.) Levitre has never been to a Pro Bowl and goes 6-foot-2, 303 -- small for a guard. Here's hoping he doesn't get physically manhandled in the AFC South. Wow, almost 2 million more per year then Vasquez. I knew it was overpayment, but I didn't realize just how much until seeing the numbers put up against some other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Actually isn't he making 13 million over the next two years? check this out: http://www.wgr550.com/Bills--deal-with-Kolb---6-1m-base-over-two-years/16003050 if he earns the full $13million, then we're in the playoffs and he's worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 So our defacto owner / marketing man Brandon's slogan for the year will be: We're gonna suck but at least we didn't overpay (like we did last year). Brandon is a tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 So our defacto owner / marketing man Brandon's slogan for the year will be: We're gonna suck but at least we didn't overpay (like we did last year). Brandon is a tool. ...or maybe they made smart business decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 I wish the Bills re signed Levitre. You gotta take care of your own sometimes. He was a good player, but more important durable. Drafting a guy to replace him is a gamble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 So our defacto owner / marketing man Brandon's slogan for the year will be: We're gonna suck but at least we didn't overpay (like we did last year). Brandon is a tool. A tool because he didn't go out and frantically over-spend on FA's knowing that we need to preserve cap space to sign out own to contract extensions (i.e., Byrd, Wood, Spiller)? A fool because he brought in 3 pretty quality FA's in Lawson, Branch and Kolb for bargain contracts? How would you have done it differently? BTW....I guarantee you the Bills are not done in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 His contract is reportedly laced with incentives. Reasonable. Yes - Kolb is dirt-cheap for a QB - there is literally nothing wrong with his signing. Very low risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 Lot of teeth gnashing for a guy making less money than Thigpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick the Greek Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) Lot of teeth gnashing for a guy making less money than Thigpen. And my guess is that he will be the starter this year. Pig Pen never started a game in Buffalo. Edited April 9, 2013 by ldandria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 9, 2013 Share Posted April 9, 2013 5 of the 20 listed are Dolphin FA pick-ups. One has to feel they're bettin' the farm on an immediate turn around for which they won't be able to sustain. I hope 13 years of misery ensues.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 ...or maybe they made smart business decisions Don't kid yourself our pretend owner is a tool obviously Litmann is calling all the shots These tools couldn't even resign Kyle Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Don't kid yourself our pretend owner is a tool obviously Litmann is calling all the shots These tools couldn't even resign Kyle Moore or Cheshire Rhenboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-8 Forever? Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 The good news is there were no Bills on that list. One thing with Russ running the show is that the contracts will be well structured. There is a lot of money to earn for the QBs but it is built in with bonuses and escalators. You do often have to overspend to get top players to Buffalo but I am glad that they are not overspending this year for guys that are not difference makers. and When we're 2-10 and in the basement of the league everyone will be complaining we have no talent on the roster. Bills need to draft incredibly well this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Don't kid yourself our pretend owner is a tool obviously Litmann is calling all the shots These tools couldn't even resign Kyle Moore Did Russ sleep with your girl or something? You really hate him. Once he took over that meant the Littman no longer needed o sign off on decisions. Bottom line is they haven't wasted in free agency this year. I wish that they would have plugged a few more holes but they have not made any mistakes yet as far as I am concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 and When we're 2-10 and in the basement of the league everyone will be complaining we have no talent on the roster. Bills need to draft incredibly well this year. With only 6 draft picks and holes at QB, WR, OLB, ILB, CB, OG and TE I'd say they needed the best draft in NFL history plus some undrafted free agent home runs as well. Realistically, if it's only going to happen via the draft then the Bills are still 3+ years away from being a championship contender, and that's if they stop losing starters via free agency that they have to replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Trooth Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Don't kid yourself our pretend owner is a tool obviously Litmann is calling all the shots These tools couldn't even resign Kyle Moore Kyle Moore? You mean the batamweight DE that's 2/3 short of being a 1 trick pony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Week 1 of FA is for suckers. Guys rarely play up to these huge contracts and they are frequently huge busts. Winners are built via the draft. So we are suckers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Week 1 of FA is for suckers. Guys rarely play up to these huge contracts and they are frequently huge busts. Winners are built via the draft. Sadly the Bills can do neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 or Cheshire Rhenboat Chas. Chas Rhenboat. :wallbash: :wallbash: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Did Russ sleep with your girl or something? You really hate him. Once he took over that meant the Littman no longer needed o sign off on decisions. Bottom line is they haven't wasted in free agency this year. I wish that they would have plugged a few more holes but they have not made any mistakes yet as far as I am concerned. Littman is running the show, Brandens just a figure head like he was in his tenure as the GM The constants in this 13 years of ineptitude : Wilson Littman and branden three tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Littman is running the show, Brandens just a figure head like he was in his tenure as the GM The constants in this 13 years of ineptitude : Wilson Littman and branden three tools Except for the time when Donahoe had complete and unprecedented autonomous control over the football operations and Brandon wasn't in the FO picture, you'd be right. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibuya Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 the 1st few days of free agency has become the new pre-CBA1st rd rookie draftee debacle. Accept teams are willingly doing this to themselves. The smartest thing to do is to avoid the 1st few days of FA every year, and I for one will not complain if the Bills continue to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Actually, no -- unless he plays a lot. And if he's playing a lot, that means (a) he's healthy and (b) he's probably playing pretty well. Under that scenario, he's still not overpaid. Got it, thanks eball. Yeah, I like the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Littman is running the show, Brandens just a figure head like he was in his tenure as the GM The constants in this 13 years of ineptitude : Wilson Littman and branden three tools You forgot the ticket taker at that one gate. Dude has been there forever. Also the guy that sells peanuts in the nosebleeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Except for the time when Donahoe had complete and unprecedented autonomous control over the football operations and Brandon wasn't in the FO picture, you'd be right. GO BILLS!!! shhhh... it ruins the storyline when you point out the plot holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 So our defacto owner / marketing man Brandon's slogan for the year will be: We're gonna suck but at least we didn't overpay (like we did last year). Brandon is a tool. after paying $100 mil for Mario last year, were back to Ralph is cheap.... And why, because we didn't pay $34 mil on Elerby, or some other crazy amount for a player who will do nothing more than take cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted April 10, 2013 Share Posted April 10, 2013 Winners are built via the draft. Really, Recent Super Bowl winning MVPs Eli Manning (2 times) and Drew Brees might disagree with that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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