3putt Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Really? An Olineman who can play all positions and a DB with elite size and speed have high bust potential? link:http://www.profootballweekly.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Glenn is a big dude. maybe he means busting waistline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 11, 2012 Author Share Posted May 11, 2012 I mean c'mon, even if Glenn doesn't end up at LT but contributes to the upgrade of the line, how can he be a bust? And I heard a lot of predraft talk that Gilmore is a technician and lacks instincts, but even if he is not a shutdown but gives us coverage options for 2 TE sets, how can the "league sources" think he is a potential bust? Unless that source is BB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOBILLS78 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Kind of surprised they'd say that about Gilmore. Seems to me he's always been considered one of the more "safe" picks of the class. Not elite, but solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mountainwampus Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I've heard a lot of mentions of Coples and Hill being likely busts. Perhaps they confused us with the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bouds Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 According to Nawrocki Cam Newton will probably stab you and take your wallet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Kind of surprised they'd say that about Gilmore. Seems to me he's always been considered one of the more "safe" picks of the class. Not elite, but solid. I think the media needs a reason to rag on us. Our moves had made to much sense this year.  Addressed pass rush:Check Resigned own guys: Check Drafted good players: Check  Uh uh uh Gilmore might bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Glenn is a big dude. maybe he means busting waistline? Â I'd like to think he means busting heads........like the heads of the Pats, Jets, and Dolphins D Line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWPABillsfan Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I see this as the Bills picked them they must be a bust. But the talking heads is not who I listen too. I believe Nix and Gailey before I believe the so called experts. If they knew so much about these kids they would be a GM of a NFL team. I'm very excited for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Everyone's got bust potential. Â And given the Bills track record of destroying talent over the past decade-plus, no one's giving them the benefit of the doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I also heard that Gilmore was considered the best CB in the league. Opinions are just like a certain body part, everyone has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I also heard that Gilmore was considered the best CB in the league. Opinions are just like a certain body part, everyone has one. Â Ear lobes? I actually have two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Don't see that for Gilmore, any more than any other typical 1st round pick. As for Glenn, I wonder if perhaps the fact that there's debate as to what position he can/should play adds support for this argument. If he was a 4th or 5th rounder that could play G &/or T his versatility would be an asset. For an early 2nd rounder, you expect them to contribute soon & significantly. That requires zeroing in on a position. We're gonna try him at LT & there are some that don't think he's well suited for that. If indeed, they're correct, and it will likely take awhile to determine this, I could see how he might have a larger than normal chance to be categorized as a bust. Personally, I like both picks. They address needs & for where they were picked, they could even be considered "value" picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 To be fair, anyone drafted by the Bills has a high bust potential. We aren't exactly known for developing star players lately. Â Hopefully that'll change with the new FO/Coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) To be fair, anyone drafted by the Bills has a high bust potential. We aren't exactly known for developing star players lately. Â Hopefully that'll change with the new FO/Coaching staff. Â It should be changing. Dearus getting 5.5 sacks as a rookie who was on a crappy D-line, Sheppard came on at the end of the year, Searcy looks good, and CJ Spiller looks like a player after he got into a groove. It will take a while to undo the stench of the Maybust pick. Edited May 11, 2012 by RyanC883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Glenn and Gilmore are probably two of the "safest" picks in the draft  - Both have ideal size for their positions - Played against strong competition in college - No injury concerns - There is no "P" word to them......meaning potential. They have shown they can play unlike some of our other picks (Maybin) who we expected to grow into the position.....those two HAVE grown into the position and then some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 It probably depends what lens you measure them through. Â if gilmore as a top ten corner must be a revis, then he may disappoint. i do think his floor is pretty high though and would be amazed if he isnt a consistent and very good starter for us from very early. Â if Glenn must be a franchise LT, again, he may come up shy, but likewise if you told me i was getting a great guard, who could play pretty much any position in a pinch in the 40s, id be thrilled still. again i think he exceeds that, but even as the floor i see, its not a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 there is absolutely no substance to that entire piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Angel Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Glenn is a 2nd round pick, as long as he can be a quality starter somewhere on the line in a year or two its an ok pick, Just because we all want him to be a stud left tackle, he's not going to have the same expectations that will make him a bust as a Robert Gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I also heard that Gilmore was considered the best CB in the league. Opinions are just like a certain body part, everyone has one. Don't most people have all the body parts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 To be fair, anyone drafted by the Bills has a high bust potential. We aren't exactly known for developing star players lately. Â Hopefully that'll change with the new FO/Coaching staff. sure we are known for developing players... We just are also known for not renewing contracts of said developed players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPS Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 I'm not worried about what Nolan Nawrocki thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 If Glenn has to be your LT then he has bust potential but at the very worse he backs up LT, LG, RG, RT at a very high level and only because Hairston, Levitre, Urbik, and Pears are playing lights out. Â Does Gilmore have bust potential? yeah but only because all CBs have bust potential it's probably the hardest position to play because so much is out of your control- but my take is that the Bills defensive line is probably going to help Gilmore feel pretty comfortable and be pretty successful in his Rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleaMoulds80 Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 You can't consider a 2nd rounder a bust. Not in my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 sure we are known for developing players... We just are also known for not renewing contracts of said developed players. Â Yeah like Wilson, Jackson, Kyle Williams & Stevie Johnson. They came fully developed or we did not renew their contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted May 11, 2012 Share Posted May 11, 2012 Don't most people have all the body parts? Â Depends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Don't most people have all the body parts? Â How's your vagina? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Glenn has bust potential as a LT, but the guy is highly likely to be a very good pro-bowl quality RT or Guard. Gilmore seems like he will at least be a decent player and not likely to be a complete zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 I also heard that Gilmore was considered the best CB in the league. Opinions are just like a certain body part, everyone has one. Â ...and very few people want to examine anyone else's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 So...he may not cut it as a LT, but could be a Pro Bowl OG or RT. And the Bills got him in the 2nd round. And that makes him a potential "bust?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deep2evans Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Yeah like Wilson, Jackson, Kyle Williams & Stevie Johnson. They came fully developed or we did not renew their contracts. Â right, because the last 2 years have gone the exact same as the previous 10... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Depends The thread about what you're wearing tonight is in the Off the Wall forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Blizzard Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Really? An Olineman who can play all positions and a DB with elite size and speed have high bust potential? link:http://www.profootballweekly.com/ Â I think we are going to be happy with these guys. Eff PFW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Don't most people have all the body parts? Â Â Some are born with extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poo Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 According to the rankings they post in the video Glenn was the 19th best player in the draft and we got him in the 41st(?) spot. How is this a bad move for the Bills? And they consider his solely as an inadequate tackle, isn't his appeal in his ability to play multiple spots? Also, didn't a fourth rounder start the majority of the snaps last year and do so well that the Bills didn't resign their old starter? Â Maybe Gillmore will have trouble adjusting to the game and be unable to be a stand out corner but don't call CJ Spiller a bust. http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/05/08/2011s-best-performances-running-backs/ Â Leodis Mckelvin is a bust and his great physical talents do not translate into CB skills. A better comparison point than CJ would be the very real possibility the Bills just drafted the next Leodis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarolinaBill Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This Nowraki guy really needs to stop questioning the intelligence of players. Especially when he hasn't even met them. He did it last yr in his Rediculous analysis of Cam, and now he's doing it again with Glenn. The guy is an idiot, so I'm not really taking ANYTHING this clown says seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 This Nowraki guy really needs to stop questioning the intelligence of players. Especially when he hasn't even met them. He did it last yr in his Rediculous analysis of Cam, and now he's doing it again with Glenn. The guy is an idiot, so I'm not really taking ANYTHING this clown says seriously As I'm sure you realized when you watched that video, he was relating the "word around the league" on Gilmore and Glenn, not his own opinion. Â That, and $1.50, will get you a cup of coffee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted May 12, 2012 Share Posted May 12, 2012 Nawrocki is the guy who said Cam was garbage and going to bust. He thought Maybin was a sure fire HOFamer. Enuf said about him. Nothing to worry about Gilmore. He is a phenomenal athlete. His ball skills might not be on par with Mo Claiborne but he is faster, a better tackler and more dangerous coming off the edge. He is also extremely serious about his profession and has an outstanding worth ethic. He was a good student and is of impeccable character. For those who have'nt noticed yet he is also extremely confident. He is a very low risk pick with great upside. I think he will shine. Glenn's upside is probowl left tackle. His downside is probowl RT or guard. Also a first rate person. Actually, the Bills had an absolutely fantastic draft. Talent, value & need. Check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 It means nothing obviously, especially because he is going against UDFA rookie QBs. But in the three mini camp practices, Gilmore has three INTs. One each practice, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted May 13, 2012 Share Posted May 13, 2012 Glenn is a big dude. maybe he means busting waistline? or Skulls can't do that any more, maybe ribs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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