Kelly the Dog Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 "One of us, equals many of us Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us" That's just flat wrong though. If I say Marshawn Lynch or Shawn Nelson are morons, that does not at all mean I think the Bills are morons, nor should it mean that. I may disrespect them, or criticize them, or other players, for on the field OR off the field sucktitude, but it has nothing to do with what I think of the 50 other Bills or team as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Nope, I'm simply just saying that sometimes repeated complaining just gets old. Nothing more nothing less. Simple as that. Sometimes repeated excuses just get old too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) That's just flat wrong though. If I say Marshawn Lynch or Shawn Nelson are morons, that does not at all mean I think the Bills are morons, nor should it mean that. I may disrespect them, or criticize them, or other players, for on the field OR off the field sucktitude, but it has nothing to do with what I think of the 50 other Bills or team as a whole. But that's the mentality you need to have as a team. You're a family. Sure your family members screw up, but you don't like anyone else disrespecting them. I can bust my brother's ball all I want but the second an outside does it, you're in for a fight. If you're divided, you fall. The Bills right now believe they are a playoff team and don't give a crap what the "experts" say. And Gailey defending Edwards only makes the team tighter. I love everything about it. Edited August 25, 2010 by C.Biscuit97 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Good on Chan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 But that's the mentality you need to have as a team. You're a family. Sure your family members screw up, but you don't like anyone else disrespecting them. I can bust my brother's ball all I want but the second an outside does it, you're in for a fight. If you're divided, you fall. The Bills right now believe they are a playoff team and don't give a crap what the "experts" say. And Gailey defending Edwards only makes the team tighter. I love everything about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Okay. And objectively speaking, how would you compare the general behavior of the negative posters versus the positive posters? Which group uses more profanity? Which group uses more name calling? Which group is more overzealous as far as taking EVERY opportunity to comment on a player? I think if you're objective, then the answers to these questions are pretty obvious. The subtext to the optimist versus pessimist argument is the well-behaved to poorly-behaved argument, IMO. Objectivity is my specialty. Yes you are 100% correct as far as pessimism and optimism go. There is a LOT of that. BUT, do not mistake realism for pessimism. Do not mistake optimism for objectivity. Optimism implies hoping for the best of a bad situation. To do this you must acknowledge that the situation is bad. Being optimistic when things are going well isn't really being hopeful is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Interesting that this incident happened after the very LAST practice of training camp, just before the Bills huddle up into their string of closed practices. Not saying that Chan planned or staged this, but as a shrewd leader he had to know that speaking out today would help bring his team together at a critical time. Gailey also stated today that he wasn't thrilled with his team's mental focus. By creating an "us vs. the world" mentality, he's conjuring up motivation and "edge" wherever he can find it. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 But that's the mentality you need to have as a team. You're a family. Sure your family members screw up, but you don't like anyone else disrespecting them. I can bust my brother's ball all I want but the second an outside does it, you're in for a fight. If you're divided, you fall. The Bills right now believe they are a playoff team and don't give a crap what the "experts" say. And Gailey defending Edwards only makes the team tighter. I love everything about it. Oh, so Bills fans should no longer single out any bad play or player on the team because that means you're going against the entire team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Sometimes repeated excuses just get old too! Sometimes that's very true too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Imagine if that was Jauron saying that. "Cmon children, stop being mean. Practicing is hard and hurty in the NFL. I draw my inspiration in life from Ralph Wiggum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 We do have every right to boo. But why the hell would you go out of your way to go to a training camp practice you went to for free and bother a man while he is at work, getting ready for a game? People seem to forget these guys are at work. Why bother him there? Boo at the game if he srews up, but not while he's preparing for a game. It would be like booing a band during sound check. It's counterproductive. He is the QB for now so let him get his work in in peace. There isn't another QB coming right this second. Why not just ask these "fans", where they work? Then load up the bus and let them see how much fun it is, especially when a lot of large men heckle them at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vizslafan Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Dear Chan - thanks for putting these punks in their place. It is sickening to go to sporting events - kids thru pros - and to see this behaviour. Glad to see somebody did something about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Oh, so Bills fans should no longer single out any bad play or player on the team because that means you're going against the entire team? Trent Edwards although appreciative of Gailey defending him and the rest of the team the way he did actually seemed to bend more in favor of letting fans express themselves freely. Chan Gailey on the other hand realizes for Trent Edwards to lead this football team he needs to be respected by all of his teammates so he's not going to stand idly by and watch a bunch of loudmouth showoffs run the leader of his football team into the ground. Trent Edwards is not just any player, he's the QB/leader of the Buffalo Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Anyone focusing on the Trent Edwards aspect of this incident "just doesn't get it." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I wonder how some of the normal fans in that particular group Gailey addressed felt towards the A-holes who couldn't keep the traps shut like a bunch of cry babies crying for attention, That applies to TSW as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Wow, a coach with some balls. Is anyone seriously complaining about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Gailey has grown on me a lot, but this is one thing I don't like. In essence, he's hurting the good fans who cannot get autographs because of a few bad apples. Not to mention that it's a fan's right to heckle. Not something I would do, but it's their right I think. It's part of the deal. Maybe less so at a free practice as opposed to paying for a ticket at a game, but still. There is still free speech and the fans have a right to yell. I don't mind him laying into those fans, that's actually pretty cool. If they can dish it out they can take it. But to stop his players from giving autographs to the good fans, too, who look forward to it doesn't seem right to me. I take his 'call out' to be a team-building ploy, rather than anti-fan. In the vein of a Parcells-like reverse psyche job. I suspect Gailey has very few cares about what fans think, but if he can rally the troups doing something like this (and using the in-house mouth piece to do it suggests as much), so be it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I take his 'call out' to be a team-building ploy, rather than anti-fan. In the vein of a Parcells-like reverse psyche job. I suspect Gailey has very few cares about what fans think, but if he can rally the troups doing something like this (and using the in-house mouth piece to do it suggests as much), so be it... The more I thought about it, if it actually works to build the team "all for one one for all" concept, I'm happy to throw a couple little whiny snot-nosed autograph seekers under the bus for it. I also think it was intentionally done as the last thing before camp ended, so for that I give him credit. And I don't at all mind him bashing the idiot hecklers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhg Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Anyone focusing on the Trent Edwards aspect of this incident "just doesn't get it." True that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I take his 'call out' to be a team-building ploy, rather than anti-fan. In the vein of a Parcells-like reverse psyche job. I suspect Gailey has very few cares about what fans think, but if he can rally the troups doing something like this (and using the in-house mouth piece to do it suggests as much), so be it... To suggest ploy sounds premeditated in my opinion and it happened on the spur of the moment, More a reflection of Gailey's no nonsense don't mess with my football team and its players attitude then anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffalo Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I just saw the video - beautiful! They shut up pretty quick when Chan started yelling at them, huh? I like this hire more and more all the time. What video? I have been through this thread, was it removed? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Trent wears gloves even in August? so did kurt warner . so whats that got to do with anything ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) What video? I have been through this thread, was it removed? Thanks http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13813379/bills-coach-gailey-challenges-heckling-fans/cbsnews Shows the incident taking place plus Chan Gailey, Trent Edwards and Aaron Maybin Interview Edited August 25, 2010 by dog14787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Good for him. That wet noodle Jauron would never have done anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Those fans must've stood out with their idiocy. Maybe Chan thought it would be a good thing to unify the squad. It's sort of biblical. Whatsoever you do to the least of my brethren you do to me. I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13813379/bills-coach-gailey-challenges-heckling-fans/cbsnews Shows the incident taking place plus Chan Gailey, Trent Edwards and Aaron Maybin Interview Thanks for the link Dog. I finally saw the video and... Nice! Good for Chan. And better for the Team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Any truth to the rumor it was Jerry Sullivan that Gailey was barking at? PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastRochBillsfan Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Yeah, Maddog. Your post was seriously one of the worst in a long time. Sorry buddy. I think I disagreed with every word in it except "the" and "it." edit: I also agreed with your use of the word, "that." ok. so I started reading this thread early to about page 5. Then got busy with dinner. went out drinking after that and here we are 12 f'ing pages later. and a bit buzzed I must say.....but i'm with san jose on this one for sure. I'm not even gonna comment on your earlier stuff maddog. It's not relevant anymore. what a great thread though. very entertaining. Way to go Chan! I like you more everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I love it. I bet the players do too. Anybody that heckles our own players in practice, no matter who it is, shouldn't be considered a fan at all. Rather, they are immature aholes that simply act to drag our fanbase down to the lowest common denominator. Our fanbase used to be one of, if not the best in the business. Not anymore. Just look at this board.....there used to be a lot of great posters who debated their points with respect....though some remain you don't hear from them as much and some who contributed greatly, like Lori, have been driven off.....maybe once school starts it will get back to normal I don't mind heckling in certain cases. If a guy isn't trying hard enough, particularly. Billy Jo Hobert, for instance. Or guys who loaf for whatever reason. But if the players are trying as hard as they can, I think it's kind of pathetic. And I don't see anyone on this team not trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNW_Bills_Fan Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 I love the fire in Chan's eyes. If the team plays with the intensity of the coach we should see some good football. We may not have the talent, but a team beats talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 "One of us, equals many of us Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us" +1 Why not just ask these "fans", where they work? Then load up the bus and let them see how much fun it is, especially when a lot of large men heckle them at work. That assumes they work. I assume they are living in Mommy and Daddies basement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbonestake Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 CHAN-TASTIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 (edited) From some reports I heard, the hecklers were hurling profanity and other crude language. If true, I have even less of a problem with what Gailey did than I did before. And in the end, the players appreciate something like that from their coach and will work harder as a result. And ultimately that's what more important, rather than some idiot fans getting admonished. Edited August 25, 2010 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 From some reports I heard, the hecklers were hurling profanity and other crude language. If true, I have even less of a problem with what Gailey did than I did before. And in the end, the players appreciate something like that from their coach and will work harder as a result. And ultimately that's what more important, rather than some idiot fans getting admonished. +1000000000000 I firmly beleive "paying customers"...fans have the absolute right to voice displeasure. But like everything else in life, theres a time and place for things. And a practice setting, and using lowbrow langauge isnt it. And then theres the whole thing of Chan showing himself as a leader here and "defending" his team. Good on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobChalmers Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 From some reports I heard, the hecklers were hurling profanity and other crude language. If true, I have even less of a problem with what Gailey did than I did before. And in the end, the players appreciate something like that from their coach and will work harder as a result. And ultimately that's what more important, rather than some idiot fans getting admonished. If that's true, the SJF/Bills security crew really blew it by not throwing them out promptly. The stuff I heard last week didn't include any profanity that I noticed, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsguy Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 He did do something about it. It told the fans that the Bills are a team and you insult one you insult them all. That is a hell of a coach if you ask me. Hey you kids get off my lawn! You would swear someone invented a cure for cancer with all the publicity this is getting. Can you say, "Who cares?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowery4 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 these threads should be merged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Hey you kids get off my lawn! You would swear someone invented a cure for cancer with all the publicity this is getting. Can you say, "Who cares?" If this means that yelling at a bunch of 11 year old kids gets a win somewhere down the road, I'm all for it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInLV Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 +1 That assumes they work. I assume they are living in Mommy and Daddies basement. Let's see how they like it when we Heckle THEM while they're trying to play Madden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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