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He has lost his Fundamentals. Throwing sidearm way too much. Look at the last game and tell me how many times he ***** his arm but does not throw the ball? He has lost confidence in himself. We know he can thread the needle. i am really getting tired of everybody on this board saying we need a #1 WR. Stop looking at josh at the snap and look at how many people are open down field, even if it is only 7-10 yards downfield. He needs to work on everything. i am afraid no one is going to hold his feet to the fire. Yea, we got shi!!y play calling by the coaches on both sides of the ball. Of Course, WE won't bench him (don't want to see Mitchell in there). but he needs to not watch film, he needs to start working on his craft and throw the damn ball. re watch the last 3 games or so and you will see. Also, when we don't run the ball i'm pretty sure Josh feels that he needs to put on his cape and save the day. I would have loved to see him just throw the ball in the dirt or out of bounds, just to get better play calls. He is Way better than this!! Thanks

https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/article_136a7d89-7cda-4481-a00a-8695ed6bc032.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share Bills did everything wrong by traditional metrics against Tampa. -1 on turnovers, outrushed 202-98, TOP 35-25 Tampa, Penalties 7 Buffalo 2 Tampa. The only thing the Bills were better at was special teams, which was significant. Despite all that, the Bills won by 12, largely because Brady let Josh Allen be Josh Allen, with all the good and bad that comes with it. The Bills got many explosive plays, and that is why they won. Other notes: Gabe Davis is very good at what he does. Really helped Allen. TD pass to Shavers was essentially a "designed" busted play by Allen. It was 3rd and 5, and Allen had easy first down throws to both Davis and Johnson. But Josh recognized Tampa was playing a soft zone, and he went for the big play instead. This time it worked. The TD to Cook was great play design and read by Allen. Bardy had a number of well-designed plays that were well executed, e.g., the TD to Johnson, designed Allen runs. Kubiak observes that this game should dispel the notion that the Bills are devoid of playmakers. They can make plays if well designed and executed. He concludes: "Allen, for all his abilities, is not a robot. He makes mistakes. It is, in a sense, part of what makes him so special... Above all else, Allen and this team have the potential and explosiveness to beat any team." Behind BN paywall. Go Bills!!! Beat Houston!!!

Lifting the curse!

Sacks are really bad. Usually, they are drive killers. Luckily for the Bills, Josh Allen is really good at avoiding sacks. Like, REALLY good. And it's not as if he's lost a step. Yet he is being sacked at a very high rate this season: 7.1 percent, his highest rate since 2019. His offensive line is both very good and healthy, so I'm not blaming either him or the line. At any rate, note the rates in the last column below. He led the league in 2023 with the lowest sack rate, yet was even better last year: a ridiculously low 2.82 percent. Derek Carr was somehow the league leader but he missed nearly half the season, so I'm giving the crown to Allen. That means he basically led the league two years in a row at being the best QB in avoiding sacks. His sack rate this year is perhaps the strongest indictment there is of wide receiver talent and passing game design. Jeff Ulbrich taught the league that you can relentlessly blitz Allen (which the Dolphins did yesterday) without a ton of fear given the wide receiver talent and (possibly; I don't know enough) the passing game scheme. With regard to scheme, is Allen not being given answers in blitz situations? He used to absolutely DESTROY blitzes. Not this year.

Last night the real Josh came out from all the low-positive, gloomy vibes of this season. The game became about him slinging it and creating and guess what: we scored 44 points. Yeah, he had two picks that turned into 3 points for TB. So what? Few points: 1) The offense we tried to play for most of the season, featuring Brady's play designs for 5 yard patterns, was boring and awful. Turning Josh into a glorified game manager is moronic and frankly depressing. Today we let Josh and to a lesser extent Cook get going, instead focusing on how to unlock Coleman by force-feeding him. Today Brady also got in a rhythm finally and made some great timely play calls. 2) No one on this offense needs the ball unless they get open... even Kincaid should not be featured. It just distracts Brady trying to serve each player their own special plays. Feature JOSH ALLEN with a hefty side of James Cook, our best most explosive players by far. Mix in downfield passes and don't forget Shake-n-bake Shakir down there. Forget the low upside plays, like WR screens--it doesn't give us numbers when the WR who would be blocking for the RB is getting the ball. Run out of the 11 formation more, so we threaten the pass, instead of letting teams know we are running with Hawes and Gilliam on the field. 4) More than the score, the game and the team felt better emotionally than it has for weeks. We left it on the field and won a game-of-the-week shootout. Our defense is not capable of holding teams, but we can get some timely turnovers and win this way much easier than playing ball control as if we had a run defense. The biggest thing is we need to clamp down on D on third-and-long--it's about making big plays and getting our O back the ball. 5) McDermott better get some beta blockers, cause this is who we need to be. This is what gives us our swagger, what makes us unique. We have the NFL's equivalent of Paul Bunyan, and a damn good running back. Let them rip. GO BILLS!

I've heard this narrative brought up every time Allen is discussed in mainstream circles. Allen career int percentage 2.3% Drew Brees career int percentage 2.3% Josh Allen int % since 2019 including the playoffs, 2.1 % Allen .9 int % in the playoffs ( lowest all time) Montana 2.9 int % in the playoffs Allen also has the lowest turnover percentage in NFL playoff history from what I read. I haven't confirmed if that's true. But it's certainly extremely low I then read that since the turnover worthy stat was created, Allen is top 5 in the least amount of turnover worthy plays in the playoffs... Allen ints in first 121 starts- 93 int Tom Brady in first 121 starts - 91 int Allen from 18-23 78 int , 107 total turnovers Tom Brady from 01- 06, 78 int , 101 total turnovers Allen in 2024 had the lowest amount of negative plays in NFL history, fumbles, ints and sacks.... I'm not saying Allen is perfect, and he can definitely be streaky sometimes, but these numbers not only suggest the narrative is wrong, but that it's actually the opposite. Especially in the biggest pressure moments. Why does this keep being brought up every time Allen is discussed. I find it bizarre

While Josh Allen changes some plays at the line, it is time for him to call all of the plays, much like Jim Kelly did. It seems obvious that some of his frustration is directed at results of a called play when it fails and letting him take the wheel would get rid of that distraction. Regardless of the fact that this is non- existent in the current NFL, there has to be a lot of range as to the frequency of audibles among the QBs. Some do quite a bit, some not that much. Advantages if JA Calls all the plays: Josh has a feel for the flow of the game and what works and doesn't work with the 11 on the field at the time. The frustration from calls he disagrees with would be eliminated. Joe Brady can focus on developing a game plan for the opponent and sideline management. His standing as a team leader would be reinforced. He knows this team better than anyone. He would be super motivated and a motivated JA is a wonerful thing to see. He has earned it.

Most of this season and especially after last night, people have been calling for the firing of Sean McDermott and Brandon Beane. It's pretty clear that the coaching and the systems aren't working anymore. And that the roster is in terrible shape with no easy fixes. Both have had a number of fireable offenses. While I understand fans frustration and wanting a new regime, the question I keep coming back to is would Josh want to stick around for that? He'll be 30 years old next season. We've already wasted much of his prime. A new Coach and/or a new GM will surely want to rebuild the roster, the staff, and the systems in place in their image. This is likely to take time and the odds that they'll come in and get back to where they were immediately while rebuilding is unlikely. It will probably take a couple off seasons. And there's no guarantee whomever we bring in will actually improve things. My concern is that at Josh's age and with the clock ticking on his prime that he would rather ask for a Trade to a team that has a roster in place and a good coach and GM in place than waste time and roll the dice on a rebuild under unknowns. There's no easy answer as it's pretty clear that Sean isn't the answer and Brandon has mismanaged the cap and roster. So a lot of things are going to have to be done after this season. But I worry Josh won't want to stick around for a total blow up.

I havent watched it yet enjoy guys.

He was masterful. One of his best games EVER. 88% for nearly 300 yards and 3 TD’s. He played point guard, manipulated the pocket, delivered pinpoint passes, moved the defense with his eyes several times, and stiff armed a Chiefs defender like they were a toddler. Incredible performance.

Interesting concept...Mike Sando has created a "Betrayal Index" that shows how the other areas of the team are complimenting the QB play. Allen leads the NFL with 9.4 EPA/start but the Defense and Special Teams contribute -2.9 EPA/start This makes him the most "betrayed" QB in the NFL relative to his performance versus his complimentary performance. Once again showing why Allen should be the MVP... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/bills-josh-allen-cowboys-dak-174920265.html

Who else was it gonna be??

BOBBY BOUCHER GONNA PLAY SOME QUARTERBACK FOR US. WATERBOY!!! W.

Despite the pathetic showing by the entire team, per usual the Bills could’ve put it away at the end. Not sure what Josh was thinking because it’s right in front of his face. (FF to 17:15) Before you flame me, i’m not putting the L on Allen, I am stating a simple fact. here’s an even better view https://www.instagram.com/reel/DRTn2GBgHVt/?igsh=MTZzbW9veGRpaG9scA==

Josh Allen now has 72 career rushing TD's.....the only active player, not QB, but player in the NFL right now that has more rushing TD's than Josh is Derrick Henry with 112. Just crazy to think that a QB who is one of the best in the league throwing the ball, is also unrivaled in rushing TD's among almost everyone active in the league right now!! No doubt he will surpass 100 rushing TD's before his career is over! Go Bills!!!

Haley is pregnant with their first and Josh is going to spend the next year or so stumbling through life like a stoned Alzheimer's patient.

We have seen this before. Much is on his receivers but anyone recall when he was hit and his head slammed into the carpet in the Partiots game? All it takes is one smackas this is a game of milli-seconds. I know as I have seven documented Sports Concussions. The last caused a Stroke. Remember Captain Checkdown.? That head hit ended his promising career The term "Bill quarterback captain checkdown" refers to a nickname, "Captain Checkdown," historically used for Buffalo Bills quarterback Trent Edwards due to his conservative style. The current Bills quarterback, Josh Allen, has recently spoken out against the label, stating he wants to avoid being a "Captain Checkdown" and has a more aggressive style. The term describes a quarterback who frequently checks down the ball to shorter routes instead of throwing deep, which can be a positive strategy but can also lead to a conservative, less impactful offense if used too often.

https://buffalonews.com/sports/professional/nfl/bills/article_acfd70f5-b9e5-4d96-b8fa-b559174e47c0.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=email&utm_campaign=user-share So perhaps a MOTO, but Kubiak breaks down how Josh returned to his 2024 form. He played disciplined in-system football, made great reads, and made precise throws. 23-26 makes that pretty clear. The pass to Moore was particularly elite. Other stuff. Bills provide an interesting look/problem when they use 13 personnel. It is an obvious running look, but the receiving skill set of all three TEs gives them a strong receiving threat too. Good stuff. Overall, all phases of the team finally played to the elite level they need to compete for a title. Perhaps the Bills just play up or down to the level of competition, but against KC they clearly showed what they can do if all phases play up to their potential. Behind BN paywall.

If you have espn+ this is a good watch. https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6766915/2025/11/02/peyton-manning-josh-allen-places-buffalo-premiere/ Peyton determined the curse started in 1901 when McKinley was assassinated, because that’s the year Buffalo lost their baseball team, which moved to Boston.

Thankfully, all teams do not have all the pieces in place to stop Josh like the Texans have: 1. Two lockdown CB's that can handle the Bills WR's one on one, allowing their Safties to focus on Cook and the Rushing attack, while simultaneously forcing Josh to hold on to the ball too long....which leads to number 2. 2. Two premium Pass Rushers who can take advantage of the fact that Josh had to hold on to the ball to wait for receivers to get open. 3. A Middle LB'er with size and speed that can spy on Josh Allen, and can actually catch him and stop him if he does try to run it. The Texans D sure made it a tough day at the office for #17.

i feel like we run that play, the same 3 running plays, and the TE wheel route up the sideline and that makes up 65% of our play calls

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/nfl-fines-josh-allen-elijah-moore-for-violent-gesture-after-td NFL (No Fun League) at it again in the fines department.. Josh Allen fined $14,491 and Elijah Moore fined $13,888 after "The NFL has fined both of them for what was deemed a “violent gesture.” So this happened late 3rd quarter (1:34 to be exact) when Allen got pushed in for the TD to extend the lead to 28-13. NBC Sports writes, "After Josh Allen ran for a touchdown in the third quarter of Sunday’s win over the Chiefs, he celebrated with teammates including wide receiver Elijah Moore. As Allen and Moore faced each other, they both made finger guns." Josh Allen and Elijah Moore will join the fine list with: 1. Christian Benford (unnecessary roughness - use of the helmet) - week 9 also 2. Ty Johnson (unnecessary roughness - facemask) on a punt - week 9 also 3. Joey Bosa (unnecessary roughness - tripping) 4. Dorian Williams (unnecessary roughness - blindside block)

Statmuse It's become an annual tradition we look forward to every year. With today's six total TD performance, Allen (290) passes Russel Wilson (289) for the most total TD's by a QB in their first 9 seasons. Allen still has 7 games remaining in his 8th season.