PDaDdy Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 QUOTE (thebandit27 @ Sep 8 2009, 04:59 PM) * what a bunch of panty-wastes on this board! this guy was horrendous. did anyone watch him play in any of the 5 preseason games? he was brutal in run blocking, and got abused by Dewayne White (who?), Detroit's RDE (2 penalties and 3 blown blocking assignments in 4 plays in the 2nd quarter) in the passing game. there's no way this is such a bad move. yes, the timing was poor, but it was the right move. thank you No doubt what did they expect though taking a career road grating RT and make him a LT???? It's not the bull dozer's fault it's not a Hummer!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjohns85 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 f*ck my life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Flowers Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Somebody better remind him he'll have to pay a top 3 pick a hell of a lot more than 5 million. He may not live long enough to have to deal with that problem. I'm just sayin'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Then when the Bills go 1-15 this year and everyone gets all excited over the #1 pick and sells out the season before May, the Bills will trade the pick so they don't have to pay the guy. If we go 1-15 this year it is not going to be because we don't have Langston Walker at LT. I mean this is Langston Walker we're talking about after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tomcat Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 +1 Walker sucked the entire preseason, now we B word when he's cut. Bad timing, but good riddance, should have been cut a couple of weeks ago. Maybe they just kept him on until the knew if Bell was going to be ready. Agreed 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's funny how the Bills like to live on the edge when they seem to be the most injury-prone team in the league. Sure, we'll get by with Bell as a starting LT (who was already dinged up for weeks), and Fred Jackson (also injured in the pre-season) and Oman as our only RB options. Watch out--by week 2, we'll have Seth McKinney starting at LT and Corey McIntyre as our starting RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 This has to mean Jon Runyan, doesn't it? I thought Levi Jones before they resigned Chambers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 If you can get at least the same production with the #2 and #3 guys on the roster it would be dumb to keep the expensive load. Not a big deal to me. Especially when the inexpensive younger guy has the potential to get better. I was surprised there wasn't more of this last weekend. Reed, Kelsay, Schobel, Denney, Florence. All the tickets are sold. Ralph has/had the opportunity of a lifetime to purge close to $20m in salary this year alone and not lose anything on the field. Walker and Rhodes are just a small fraction of what could be saved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Ok bud. Walker sucks, this move needed to be made. So what was the plan heading into the draft again? Tell me again why this team ended up with Maybin, Wood and Byrd instead of Oher and Everett Brown, etc.? Are you suggesting that the plan all along was to trade Peters, draft no left tackles, and hope Bell came into camp ready to take over? Come on. The fact is that the organization has no real plan, and hasn't from day one. I hear you, and like I said, it's purely speculation on my part. The bottom line is the Bills drafted two OL starters on day one of the draft. They didn't like any of the OTs enough to draft them that high. They may have "hoped" Walker would take to the LT position, but he didn't. Thankfully they also knew they had Bell, and he was developing quickly. Just because a plan is risky doesn't mean there is no plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drifter Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It's a sad thing when we are talking about the 2010 Draft instead of the upcoming season. I wish the game was on Sunday so the whole nation can't see us get humiliated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Animal Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 It baffles me that folks chalk this up to Ralph wanting to save $. At this point in his life Ralph has more money than God and simply wants a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Wheeeeee! Fun time as a Bills fan. Any word if Bell...you know...is physically able to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 There has been some speculation that Runyan and/or Levi Jones will be signed after week one by any number of teams, so if they break down the team won't have to pay them the full season salary. That could be the reason they signed Chambers. It seems hard for me to believe, even if they are completely inept, that they would decide to cut Chambers and keep Walker, and then two days later cut Walker and bring back Chambers because they thought that made them a better team. They could be bringing back Chambers just for the one week of having a veteran player who knows the system for the first game or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Wheeeeee! Fun time as a Bills fan. Any word if Bell...you know...is physically able to play? Supposedly, they expect everybody -- including Bell -- to be able to practice tomorrow. Hope they're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-Gun10 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 chemistry wins championships ask the colts, and there is none of that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Fan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpag...=BUF&id=776 ouch I hope the door hits him on the fat a** on the way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharper802 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 There has been some speculation that Runyan and/or Levi Jones will be signed after week one by any number of teams, so if they break down the team won't have to pay them the full season salary. That could be the reason they signed Chambers. It seems hard for me to believe, even if they are completely inept, that they would decide to cut Chambers and keep Walker, and then two days later cut Walker and bring back Chambers because they thought that made them a better team. They could be bringing back Chambers just for the one week of having a veteran player who knows the system for the first game or two. Hope you are right. Unfortunately that would be a prudent move. Does this FO give you nay reason to think it will occur like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I didn't think they'd keep Walker if he didn't work out at LT. I just didn't think they'd decide that before the season even started. Was he really THAT bad in pre-season. I know his attitude stunk, which didn't help I'm sure, but why not give him a few games to see how he does before giving up on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInUticaTampa Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 chemistry wins championships ask the colts, and there is none of that here. Well.... that team only won one championship.... so i guess it is just "championship" and not "championships" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 There has been some speculation that Runyan and/or Levi Jones will be signed after week one by any number of teams, so if they break down the team won't have to pay them the full season salary. That could be the reason they signed Chambers. It seems hard for me to believe, even if they are completely inept, that they would decide to cut Chambers and keep Walker, and then two days later cut Walker and bring back Chambers because they thought that made them a better team. They could be bringing back Chambers just for the one week of having a veteran player who knows the system for the first game or two. I bet they tried to trade Walker first and cut Chambers because they knew no team would rush to sign him. After failing to get any offers for Walker, they cut him and then re-signed Chambers. Just an educated guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 In the meantime the internet has crashed along with all domestic phone services from the stampede of 31 NFL franchises making a mad dash to secure the services of Langston Walker. But they'll have to compete with the New York City Transit Authority who have made Walker a substantial offer to be a turnstile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I bet they tried to trade Walker first and cut Chambers because they knew no team would rush to sign him. After failing to get any offers for Walker, they cut him and then re-signed Chambers. Just an educated guess. This sounds logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Flowers Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Our o-line is very young, let's hope that we can develop them into a great line in a few years. I think Walker is a little better than Bell today but he has a tremendous upside so i'm okay with the move. Trent should invest in some additional insurance until these guys mature. In the mean time, we will be down to our 6th, 7th and eighth QB's, because any QB playing behind this line is going to get killed!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Fan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 there is something to be said about changing the culture. trying to get rid of losing types and start fresh with kids who dont know any better. all in all, they got rid of a losing player (walker) -- who has never been a winning pro team. he was on a sad raider team first. this can either backfire or turn out to be brilliant. when it is brilliant -- often the talent and pedigree of the players are usually HIGH. GREEN BAY did this a few years ago and now has a dominant line. NE did it many years ago and is now dominates. you need to have good players to do it. this experiment should be interesting. drafting a RT next year would be awesome -- if BEll pans out. Miami did it last year after taking Jake Long #1. The started the year with only one guy- the center- playing the same position he had the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 In the meantime the internet has crashed along with all domestic phone services from the stampede of 31 NFL franchises making a mad dash to secure the services of Langston Walker. But they'll have to compete with the New York City Transit Authority who have made Walker a substantial offer to be a turnstile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Miami did it last year after taking Jake Long #1. The started the year with only one guy- the center- playing the same position he had the year before. And traded that guy to Oakland before this year's draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 We just cut the best RT on the roster. What a fugged up front office we have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Phil Loadholt is starting RT for the Vikings but no way could he have beat out Butler so thank goodness we got the Bryd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Ok bud. Walker sucks, this move needed to be made. So what was the plan heading into the draft again? Tell me again why this team ended up with Maybin, Wood and Byrd instead of Oher and Everett Brown, etc.? Are you suggesting that the plan all along was to trade Peters, draft no left tackles, and hope Bell came into camp ready to take over? Come on. The fact is that the organization has no real plan, and hasn't from day one. Maybe their thought was, we will have a higher draft choice next year, lets use that one for our LT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I bet they tried to trade Walker first and cut Chambers because they knew no team would rush to sign him. After failing to get any offers for Walker, they cut him and then re-signed Chambers. Just an educated guess. +1 - They did mention they tried to trade him first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I am not exited by this, but not surprised either. There where multiple clues this may be coming. Jaron seriously praised Bell, and didn't back Walker, which isn't normal for him. Walker didn't exactly sound excited about playing LT, and had a few interviews were he went out of his way to express how much he was displeased by this. I think if he would have kept it in house, and/or pushed to stay a RT from the beginning things would have been different. Think he doomed himself with his lack of effort and motivation at LT, for someone with his paycheck. Considering they traded away their last starter at that position for basically same reason, didn't really have much of a choice but to part ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I thought there would be a big cut like this...not really surprised, figured it would be Kelsay, Denney, or Walker. Hell, these guys are even dragging down my Madden squad with their cap figures...lmao... I just wonder if we are going to bring any other guys besides Chambers in for some more depth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Trent better learn to count to 2 and release. From what I saw, Bell is a sieve. Not sure what you were watching, but Bell looked pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daipie Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Could be looking for number one pick in the draft! If only there was another mike williams. I'm sure we'll find him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 surreal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 its maddening that changes that needed to happen last December are happening 6 days before a huge opener at New England.... a team the Bills have not beaten in forever. The front office is clueless and Russ Brandon is a clown. Ralph Wilson is a bigger clown for giving RB the keys to the car (just because he got the idea for St John Fisher). we wonder why this team hasnt made the playoffs in a decade.... The "organization" is a joke. I'm thinking the same. The timing of these moves (Schonert, Walker) is absolutely befuddling. What did Schonert and Walker do to keep their jobs at the end of last season? Why do you get rid of them right before this season? I hope Bell is really ready and performs at a respectable level. I think he bench pressed 225 pounds 9 times at the Indy Combine. He looks like he has bulked up in the past year but he is a major question mark right now. What a mess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Lieutenant Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 We just cut the best RT on the roster. What a fugged up front office we have Do you/we really know that? And even if he was by what order of magnitude would he have to be better than Butler/Scott to justify paying him 5 million dollars this season compared to whatever they'll make? Double? Triple? Quadruple? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Gotta be a pre-cursor to another move. We'd have an open roster spot, and no way the team would carry only 7 OLs. Now lets all gather together and hope that we find this same report tomorrow, only with chris kelsay's name substituted in place of Walker. lol. you have not been following the bills very long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rstencel Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Do you/we really know that? And even if he was by what order of magnitude would he have to be better than Butler/Scott to justify paying him 5 million dollars this season compared to whatever they'll make? Double? Triple? Quadruple? Not to mention how much energy and motivation Butler/Scott showed on field/practice, and how hard they worked to make the team. While Walker appeared to be going through the motions, didn't look to be giving his best efforts all the time, and was telling people how much he wanted to play LT. If want to do a rebuilding job and change the atmosphere, getting rid of the malcontents is a good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 I seem to remember at the beginning of training camp, that Walker had a somewhat negative approach to becoming the teams LT. My guess is that there was a combination of him being a malcontent, poor performance on his part, salary issue and better than expected progression of Bell that led to his departure. In regards to the timing, well, it does seem odd on the surface, but perhaps his continued poor play and attitude contributed to the late decision of releasing him. As far as I'm concerned, Screw it! Play the young guys, give them experience, it's time for an overhaul anyway, as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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