Special K Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I saw somewhere that McD took over the Defensive play calling in the 2nd half.....is this true?? The Defense was markedly better in the 2nd half compared to the 1st, and he has done the play calling takeover before when Frazier was DC. This got me to thinking.....why doesn't McD call the Defensive plays full time?? All the Offensive minded Head Coaches call their own Offensive plays(Reid, MacVay, Shanahan, even loser Mike McDaniel), so doesn't it stand to reason that a Defensive minded coach should be calling the Defense?? Maybe he should put the Defense in his own hands for a while to see if this would make a difference. Quote
BeastMaster Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago If this is true, then Babich has to be relieved of his duties That would make it multiple seasons where McDermott had to step in and call plays It's a major indictment on both Babich, and also McDermott because he keeps the guy around 4 4 Quote
Mister Defense Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Yes, of course that needs to be done. And has likely been done to a degree already. But, just as with dorsey, it was clearly not just the play calling, but the preparation for the game and that specific opponent.The play calling fiasco with both 'coordinators' is just the tip of the iceberg. If the big, obvious things are so poor--for all to see-then just imagine the neglect of the smaller details that make an NFL defense a quality unit. Things fall apart, as they have under Babbich and as they did under dorsey when this happens. A great deal of the detail work that happens during the week and then carries over into the game needs a significant change, as is seems clear that Babbich simply does not know what he is doing across the board, as the problems are comprehensive. And extremely obvious. I don't think it is over stating things to say if McDermott does not make a move, the season will be lost, and there will be a clarion call for his own head--and this time not just from a small percentage of disgruntled fans, but from a majority. He is doing what he and Beane do too often--being soft, sentimental, and letting that override the facts--and their football sense. We also see it with players like Tre White, brought back and made the starter!!, YIKES, and the same for the many retreads the Bills keep bringing back, over and over. Marv Levy and Bill Polian almost never did that, always cut bait when it was needed and then did not have an open door, come on back whenever you want policy. 1 1 Quote
machine gun kelly Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Well, the answer he gave yesterday was he didn’t want to damage his confidence as he’s only in his second year as a DC. To me, you keep him as the DC, but for now McD calls the plays. Let Babich continue to learn from him. Something has to stop the bleeding. So bottom line is I agree with the guys on the board that believe he should assume play calling. 5 Quote
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago This seems like an easy button bandaid for the Bills to press during the bye, and for me would be the first order of business…then it’s up to the training staff to help get guys healthy asap while the front office picks through FA or trade options to help out where possible…bottom line, no vacay for OBD!! 1 Quote
GaryPinC Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 26 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Well, the answer he gave yesterday was he didn’t want to damage his confidence as he’s only in his second year as a DC. To me, you keep him as the DC, but for now McD calls the plays. Let Babich continue to learn from him. Something has to stop the bleeding. So bottom line is I agree with the guys on the board that believe he should assume play calling. The team had little fight or energy Monday. McDermott needs to first figure out if Babich's poor leadership is a significant part of that, then decide accordingly how to handle it. Different situation if the situation is bringing the entire team down. 2 Quote
CNYfan Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mister Defense said: He is doing what he and Beane do too often--being soft, sentimental, and letting that override the facts--and their football sense. We also see it with players like Tre White, brought back and made the starter!!, YIKES, and the same for the many retreads the Bills keep bringing back, over and over. Ex-Bills is the new Former Panthers. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I never did hear McDermott took over the play calling in the 2nd half, but it would make sense given them playing better lol. Anyone know if that's true or not?^ 1 Quote
JohnNord Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, Special K said: I saw somewhere that McD took over the Defensive play calling in the 2nd half.....is this true?? The Defense was markedly better in the 2nd half compared to the 1st, and he has done the play calling takeover before when Frazier was DC. This got me to thinking.....why doesn't McD call the Defensive plays full time?? All the Offensive minded Head Coaches call their own Offensive plays(Reid, MacVay, Shanahan, even loser Mike McDaniel), so doesn't it stand to reason that a Defensive minded coach should be calling the Defense?? Maybe he should put the Defense in his own hands for a while to see if this would make a difference. I can guarantee the idea has crossed his mind and if things don’t get better, it’s something that might happen. McDermott prefers to be the “CEO” of the team, as most coaches do. Taking control from Babich is akin to benching your rookie/young QB. Once you’ve de-committed it’s usually the beginning of the end. i definitely think McDermott believes in Babich and doesn’t him to fail. Babich has been groomed for this role early in his career so he’s kind of like McDermott’s protege, just as McDermott was Jim Johnson’s protege in Philly. The two have been together for almost a decade and he has a relationship with Babich Sr. I think he also knows he’s been hurt by injury/suspension. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, Special K said: I saw somewhere that McD took over the Defensive play calling in the 2nd half.....is this true?? The Defense was markedly better in the 2nd half compared to the 1st, and he has done the play calling takeover before when Frazier was DC. This got me to thinking.....why doesn't McD call the Defensive plays full time?? All the Offensive minded Head Coaches call their own Offensive plays(Reid, MacVay, Shanahan, even loser Mike McDaniel), so doesn't it stand to reason that a Defensive minded coach should be calling the Defense?? Maybe he should put the Defense in his own hands for a while to see if this would make a difference. 14 play 4th Q drive allowed wasn't "markedly better" 2 Quote
snamsnoops Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 49 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 14 play 4th Q drive allowed wasn't "markedly better" Allowing 3 points was 1 Quote
Captain_Quint Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago When McD calls the plays, it takes away from his head coaching responsibilities, like calling defensive timeouts and clapping. I think his new clear glasses may be fogging up his brain. 1 1 Quote
MikePJ76 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Dallas is putting it out in the media that Matt eberflus is on thin ice. He is a proven coordinator and former head coach and they are flirting with firing him at DC before the halfway point of the season. Dallas and Buffalo have both been battling injuries on defense and both look awful. Buffalo is standing by babich. Not sure which philosophy is better but I guess we will find out. Quote
GunnerBill Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 51 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: 14 play 4th Q drive allowed wasn't "markedly better" They were better in the second half but my word the bar was low. The first half defense was absolutely pathetic. I think their coverage was generally improved after half time, save for the big blown coverage to Robinson on that final drive but they still couldn't stop that single outside zone run that the Falcons called like 7 or 8 times in the game. 1 Quote
Mr. WEO Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 22 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: They were better in the second half but my word the bar was low. The first half defense was absolutely pathetic. I think their coverage was generally improved after half time, save for the big blown coverage to Robinson on that final drive but they still couldn't stop that single outside zone run that the Falcons called like 7 or 8 times in the game. Agreed. That was a weakness that Falcons took advantage of and McD could not figure out. 32 minutes ago, snamsnoops said: Allowing 3 points was 3 points or 7--didn't matter as that drive made it a 2 score game.....iced it for the Falcons. Quote
DJB Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) He doesn’t call the plays so that he can blame someone else and scapegoat them at the end of the season. Mcdermott is a coward Edited 7 hours ago by DJB 2 1 Quote
nedboy7 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Defense did its job in the second. Offense was a disaster. Everybody pukes is the new strategy. 3 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: I can guarantee the idea has crossed his mind and if things don’t get better, it’s something that might happen. McDermott prefers to be the “CEO” of the team, as most coaches do. Taking control from Babich is akin to benching your rookie/young QB. Once you’ve de-committed it’s usually the beginning of the end. i definitely think McDermott believes in Babich and doesn’t him to fail. Babich has been groomed for this role early in his career so he’s kind of like McDermott’s protege, just as McDermott was Jim Johnson’s protege in Philly. The two have been together for almost a decade and he has a relationship with Babich Sr. I think he also knows he’s been hurt by injury/suspension. McDermott is definitely loyal to a fault. I’m sure his players and coaches love him for it, but fans are a different story. Give me someone who’s not afraid to make difficult decisions. 2 Quote
Livinginthepast Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 hours ago, Mister Defense said: Yes, of course that needs to be done. And has likely been done to a degree already. But, just as with dorsey, it was clearly not just the play calling, but the preparation for the game and that specific opponent.The play calling fiasco with both 'coordinators' is just the tip of the iceberg. If the big, obvious things are so poor--for all to see-then just imagine the neglect of the smaller details that make an NFL defense a quality unit. Things fall apart, as they have under Babbich and as they did under dorsey when this happens. A great deal of the detail work that happens during the week and then carries over into the game needs a significant change, as is seems clear that Babbich simply does not know what he is doing across the board, as the problems are comprehensive. And extremely obvious. I don't think it is over stating things to say if McDermott does not make a move, the season will be lost, and there will be a clarion call for his own head--and this time not just from a small percentage of disgruntled fans, but from a majority. He is doing what he and Beane do too often--being soft, sentimental, and letting that override the facts--and their football sense. We also see it with players like Tre White, brought back and made the starter!!, YIKES, and the same for the many retreads the Bills keep bringing back, over and over. Marv Levy and Bill Polian almost never did that, always cut bait when it was needed and then did not have an open door, come on back whenever you want policy. Although McD has shown a solid game plan for a few of the big games in his tenure, the amount of games where it appears that no planning for the opposition and its tendencies was done is now becoming a large list. I am not sure if this is down to incompetence or arrogance. Like they honestly overlook some weak opponents (The Falcons is a great example) and believe they can just win with no study of their opponent's strengths. Why is it that other teams can plan successfully for our offense and neutralize some of our strengths but we cannot do that for the opposition? As for the retread player point. McD has brought back Poyer, White, Hyde, Klein, Davis, Beasley, Brown, Phillips, Trubisky, Barkley (there's probably more). None of whom have made any significant contribution to the teams success on their 2nd stint. Apparently our offensive game plan, and our almost non existent defensive game plan are so complex that only former players who went through it can understand it!! Even though they are too washed up to perform in it!! And the final irony, the one player they could have brought back easily in the offseason who knows the system and weirdly still appears to have some gas in the tank (Diggs) they didnt even consider!! Quote
boyst Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago i just don't trust this defense and haven't since 13 seconds. last year against the chiefs it took us 2.5 quarters to get it right. it's a damn shame 2 2 Quote
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