Mat68 Posted August 5 Posted August 5 8 minutes ago, BigAl2526 said: Parsons is seeking a new deal worth $40 million per year. Oliver and Cook are set to make about half that amount combined in 2025. What are you going to do to dump another $20 million against the cap? Structure it in a way that saves camp this season. Cap increases next season. Having the best qb edge combo in the league and in there primes is absolutely worth it. 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted August 5 Posted August 5 all of this is for nothing. Jerry will pay Parsons and everyone will be happy. Oddly, for a guy with all that money who owns a brand like the Cowboys, Jones is cheap in his negotiations. Then, it ends up costing him more later on. Their HC hire was hilarious, all because Jerry kept nickel and diming Big Mike. 1 1 Quote
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Good story from the Athletic about JJ the astute GM that he is: Jerry Jones is a successful businessman, obviously. Yet he seems to misunderstand a simple concept about how salary negotiations work in the NFL: The longer you wait, the more you pay. Numerous downsides accompany his approach to negotiations, with costs including: Practice time: Where do I start? Almost every Cowboys star — from Michael Irvin in 1992 to CeeDee Lamb in 2024 — has held out during training camp and missed valuable offseason reps. Wins: In 1993, Emmitt Smith missed the Cowboys' first two regular season games, both losses, before a contract was finalized. In 2024, Lamb returned from a holdout to catch 54 percent of his targets, well below his career average of nearly 70, as Dallas started 1-2. But the most obvious cost is cash, and that is particularly true in the current case of Micah Parsons. Eligible for an extension since last offseason, Parsons was willing to wait — and Jones was happy to oblige. But when your 26-year-old superstar edge's next deal will likely reset the market, there's a tax on time. If history is any indication, Jones and the Cowboys will meet Parsons' demands. After the 2023 season, the number to beat had been Nick Bosa's $34 million average. But they waited, sidelining Parsons' deal as Justin Jefferson ($35 million), Maxx Crosby ($35.5 million), Myles Garrett ($40 million) and Ja'Marr Chase ($40.25 million) each set the bar higher. Signing Parsons today could cost $41 million per year. If the Cowboys had locked up their young star in early 2024, they could have saved roughly $6 million per year while letting new defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus work with his best player throughout this training camp. Instead, they may continue to be without Parsons through Week 1 due to his unmet demands, which recently included a trade request. Part of the problem, as The Athletic's Jon Machota recently explained, is that Jones believes he and Parsons had a deal done back in March ... but Parsons’ agent wasn’t involved, and nothing was signed. 💬 Jon: "The team believed those conversations were negotiations and that it had a deal, multiple league sources said. But Parsons believed the talks were just conversations, writing that he told the Cowboys that his agent would reach out, 'thinking this would get things done.' "When Parsons’ agent attempted to start negotiations, Parsons wrote, the Cowboys declined to engage with him and told the pass rusher that they believed they already had a deal." A resolution seems unlikely any time soon, as Jones has refused to speak with Parsons' agent, thus halting negotiations. Yup, they're not even talking. Meanwhile, the price — whether it's practice time, wins or money — only goes up. But hey, you're reading about the Cowboys. That's also valuable to Jones. 1 1 1 Quote
thenorthremembers Posted August 6 Posted August 6 Jones cant help but run off at the mouth. He needs to stop talking to the press until he has Micah signed or has him traded. The manner in which he treats his players in the press is part of the reason they continue to fail as a franchise. 1 1 Quote
RoyBatty is alive Posted August 6 Posted August 6 On 8/2/2025 at 7:41 AM, aristocrat said: Jerry should trade him. Dak ain’t the guy and they need to find his replacement. I could see the pats make this move Dak "cant" be traded, Jerry is old and doesnt have time to retool to win again. and his ego went allow him to go scorched earth trade him, micah, away and got a massive boatload of cheap picks, heck while at it trade away CeeDee Lamb. 1 Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted August 15 Posted August 15 On 8/1/2025 at 12:41 PM, SCBills said: On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal? 7 4 Quote
947 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 2 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal? I'd counter with 1 first rounder & AJE. I don't know if anybody is willing to give up 2 firsts just for the right to make Parsons the highest paid defensive player in the league. 4 1 Quote
Brand J Posted August 15 Posted August 15 3 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal? I would hate that they’d take our best and most disruptive DT, but we have a deep DT room. I would rather they take a DE because we have too many of those with Hoecht coming back after 6 games, but gun to head, I’d make that deal. Parsons will be a first ballot hall of famer, Oliver has made a pro bowl or two. Big difference between the two players. Quote
Don Otreply Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) On 8/6/2025 at 1:34 PM, thenorthremembers said: Jones cant help but run off at the mouth. He needs to stop talking to the press until he has Micah signed or has him traded. The manner in which he treats his players in the press is part of the reason they continue to fail as a franchise. I suspect that Jura is so freaking rich he just doesn’t care about any of this stuff, a couple of years ago me and my wife sailed our boat past his mega yacht down at Staniel key Bahamas, the thing is so freaking big it has two full on helicopter landing pads on it, it costs him around ten million a year to maintain that ship, not counting fuel…, that boy got some coin, Edited August 16 by Don Otreply 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted August 15 Posted August 15 5 minutes ago, Brand J said: I would hate that they’d take our best and most disruptive DT, but we have a deep DT room. I would rather they take a DE because we have too many of those with Hoecht coming back after 6 games, but gun to head, I’d make that deal. Parsons will be a first ballot hall of famer, Oliver has made a pro bowl or two. Big difference between the two players. Yep. It would need to be Rousseau for it to make sense for both teams. 2 Quote
Mat68 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Anyone not named Allen and 2 1st rd picks. Jones 1st priority people talking about the Cowboys. 2nd priority his Ego. Distant 3rd how does it help them win. A trade can do number 1. But would need to happen the friday after the opener or Monday morning after week 1. Would Dallas need to win vs the Eagles without Parsons for a trade to meet priority 2? I think thats the window imo. Not being good but not signing Parson keeps the Cowboys on the air if the play on the field doesnt justify it. Quote
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 15 Posted August 15 One 1st and a good player. Specifically no to two firsts. 2 2 Quote
billsfan89 Posted August 15 Posted August 15 On 8/5/2025 at 12:31 PM, TheFunPolice said: all of this is for nothing. Jerry will pay Parsons and everyone will be happy. Oddly, for a guy with all that money who owns a brand like the Cowboys, Jones is cheap in his negotiations. Then, it ends up costing him more later on. Their HC hire was hilarious, all because Jerry kept nickel and diming Big Mike. Jerry Jones likes generating headlines and keeping the Cowboys in the news. He took Lamb and Dak’s contracts down to the wire and he’s doing the same with Parsons 1 Quote
Mark Vader Posted August 15 Posted August 15 47 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal? No way! I would entertain trading Oliver, but not with 2 first round picks. Ed Oliver, a 1st round pick and a 4th round pick for Micah Parsons and a 3rd round pick. 1 Quote
Shortchaz Posted August 15 Posted August 15 I’m only interested in winning not making ownership more money. I.e. paying a defensive end the money parsons demands would be low value for the bills in terms of impact on our W-L record. It might be worth it from ownership’s perspective in terms of jersey sales. 1 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Parsons is great in the regular season against bad teams... He is a huge liability against the run and disappears in the playoffs. I wouldn't give the farm for him 1 1 Quote
appoo Posted August 15 Posted August 15 1 hour ago, Solomon Grundy said: On Get Up this morning in a segment called "Mike Tannen-Bombs" he offered 2-1st rd picks and Ed Oliver for Micah Parsons. Would you make that deal? I said this earlier but there’s not a player other than Josh Allen or draft pick I would give up to get Micah into Buffalo. He is a HOF edge with like 6 - 8 years of prime left 5 minutes ago, Shortchaz said: I’m only interested in winning not making ownership more money. I.e. paying a defensive end the money parsons demands would be low value for the bills in terms of impact on our W-L record. It might be worth it from ownership’s perspective in terms of jersey sales. He’s multiple times better pass rusher than any edge on the roster. we’ve spent 4 years complaining about not getting pressure on Mahomes in the post season and we have people saying Micah doesn’t much value? 1 1 Quote
Billl Posted August 15 Posted August 15 (edited) Buffalo should be all over that deal. Give Beane a mid round pick, and he drafts a pretty good player. Give him a first round pick, and he drafts…a pretty good player. Go get a stud. If it costs you the next Hairston, Coleman, Kincaid, Elam, etc., so be it. Just keep finding Benford, Shakir, Knox, and Johnson with day 2 and 3 picks. Edited August 15 by Billl 2 2 Quote
SoonerBillsFan Posted August 15 Posted August 15 Bill Polian once said, to have a great team you need 3 Cornerstones. QB, LT to protect the QB and a DE that can consistently get after the QB. Now I would add a damn good CB in this day in time, but his philosophy still holds true today. We have Allen, Dawkins and.... A bunch of average bodies that aren't considered a threat to any OC. Football hasn't changed so much that a stud DE should be a HUGE priority. But we keep drafting, and queue the whiners talking about where we draft, and we keep adding average / hopeful FA's. Until we can hit on a guy we have to pay 30+ mill per year to, then its just not going to happen. 2 minutes ago, Billl said: Buffalo should be all over that deal. Give Beane a mid round pick, and he drafts a pretty good player. Give him a first round pick, and he drafts…a pretty good player. Go get a stud. If it costs you the next Hairston, Coleman, Kincaid, Elam, etc., so be it. Josh would have to re structure, we would need to send a player or 2 and at least 1 first. See my post above about how Polian said to build a team. I trade AJ, a 1st 2026, and a 2027 2nd and make the trade. Move the damn money around for this guy to get an extension and lets put to bed us HOPING the DL will deliver. 3 1 Quote
4merper4mer Posted August 15 Posted August 15 And the 2025 TBD shiniest object award goes to……… 1 Quote
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