Maxwell Hairston named in civil lawsuit for sexual assault

[balln]

2 hours ago, MJS said:

Beane and Hairston addressed it in interviews post draft. There wasn't a lot of chatter pre draft about it, but Joe Marino from Locked On Bills mentioned he heard of some SA allegations connected to Hairston and that was one thing to look at. He mentioned that pre draft and that was the earliest I heard about it.

Never know what beane and the bills ACTUALLY knew or discovered. I imagine the player and agent likely sugar coated it. Unless they talked to the girl (no way anyone from nfl or bills did) or had access to her statements she gave to police or campus officials (I doubt it) then I think it’s highly probable t what the bills knew and today’s lawsuit with details are not the same. 
 

I bet there’s some surprise today at OBD / Beane with these details.  just most likely scenario

 

The good thing Beane did was sort of pin it on the league -“ well if it was an issue then the nfl wouldn’t have him at the combine or at the draft.” Good move 
 

 

[machine gun kelly]

This issue is not a joke, so for me I’ll wait until the facts come out.  I table judgement on these matters as it could be true and that’s disgusting, or a $ grab by someone wanting to cash in like what happened to Araiza.  I’m glad Araiza finally had a 2nd chance with KC.  So my point is just let’s wait and we’ll find out if there is merit to the suit.  We need him so a suspension would stink.

[BuffaloBillsGospel2014]

The only 2 people who really know are Hairston and the woman. If he did it I hope he gets what he deserves, if she’s lying I hope she gets what she deserves, if it’s a misunderstanding I hope they can both find peace and in the end I hope they both find peace regardless.

[TBBills Fan]

3 hours ago, boater said:

"He's an impeccable kid," Beane said. "We did a lot of research. I think all teams were aware of the Title IX thing. That was fully investigated by the school...It was one of those where there was zero information saying that this actually happened."

 

I will trust Beane's research over the word of someone out to make money.

This

[MJS]

5 minutes ago, balln said:

Never know what beane and the bills ACTUALLY knew or discovered. I imagine the player and agent likely sugar coated it. Unless they talked to the girl (no way anyone from nfl or bills did) or had access to her statements she gave to police or campus officials (I doubt it) then I think it’s highly probable t what the bills knew and today’s lawsuit with details are not the same. 
 

I bet there’s some surprise today at OBD / Beane with these details.  just most likely scenario

 

The good thing Beane did was sort of pin it on the league -“ well if it was an issue then the nfl wouldn’t have him at the combine or at the draft.” Good move 

This is pure conjecture. You have no idea what Beane knew or their process for investigating. Teams do a tremendous amount of research into these prospects, especially if they are considering taking them in the 1st round.

[The Tomcat]

Here's a summary:

The Buffalo Bills knew of the Title IX complaint before drafting him and conducted their own vetting

 

Hairston volunteered for and completed a polygraph to bolster his denial .

Beane emphasized that both the school’s investigation and the Bills’ review, including the polygraph, found no evidence supporting the allegation 

So, yes — he not only offered to take the test, but actually did. Whether the results will carry weight in the ongoing civil suit remains to be seen, but the team clearly considered it a critical part of their evaluation process.

Edited July 2 by The Tomcat

[RobbRiddick]

If the glove doesn't fit, you must acq...

 

sorry, wrong Bill

[billykay]

 

When this alledgely happened, was Hairston an adult or a juvenile in Kentucky ?

[MikePJ76]

I’ve said my peace on this during the draft weekend.  everyone got mad at me for what I said then So I won’t go into it anymore but I will state that this is just another bad move in an offseason filled with them from Brandon beane.

 

also, I believe in the victims social media posts from the time period of this happening she said other girls came forward to her that he did the same to them.  If that ends up being true and the team knew this potential risk, why on earth was he drafted?  
 

When you take players like this in the first round when you had other options that is on the GM.  If Donovan Ezeriaku is as good as the DFW media has been saying he has looked and Hairston washes out because of off the field stuff…I mean these are why GM’s get fired.

 

but again oh well, as fans we have to sit back and wait for the conclusion to this.  I know I am more than tired of hearing guys like McDermott talk about his imaginary friend every time he opens his mouth but then is perfectly okay with Von miller beating up his girlfriend.

 

hopefully Hairston did not rape this young woman or anyone else and if he did he should be off the roster ten minutes after finding out.

9 minutes ago, The Tomcat said:

Here's a summary:

The Buffalo Bills knew of the Title IX complaint before drafting him and conducted their own vetting

 

Hairston volunteered for and completed a polygraph to bolster his denial .

Beane emphasized that both the school’s investigation and the Bills’ review, including the polygraph, found no evidence supporting the allegation 

So, yes — he not only offered to take the test, but actually did. Whether the results will carry weight in the ongoing civil suit remains to be seen, but the team clearly considered it a critical part of their evaluation process.

I am trying to not get too involved in this thread but why on earth would the schools findings be of any concern.  
 

not a single one of these big athletic schools should ever be trusted on any of these matters.  For decades schools have been intimidating witnesses, threatening victims, hiding evidence and colluding with local police and judges.

 

go watch the Ohio state documentary on hbo and get back to me on how much the school cares about these types of issues.

[MikePJ76]

7 minutes ago, billykay said:

 

When this alledgely happened, was Hairston an adult or a juvenile in Kentucky ?

He was on his school visit in March.  I believe he was 17 and had graduated high school early.  
 

At least that is what I remember from the victims story.  When she tried to bring charges against him she didn’t even know he was a football player and not even a student yet.  The school squashed it and then she saw him on the football team in the fall and felt betrayed by the university.  

[GunnerBill]

25 minutes ago, balln said:

Never know what beane and the bills ACTUALLY knew or discovered. I imagine the player and agent likely sugar coated it. Unless they talked to the girl (no way anyone from nfl or bills did) or had access to her statements she gave to police or campus officials (I doubt it) then I think it’s highly probable t what the bills knew and today’s lawsuit with details are not the same. 
 

I bet there’s some surprise today at OBD / Beane with these details.  just most likely scenario

 

The good thing Beane did was sort of pin it on the league -“ well if it was an issue then the nfl wouldn’t have him at the combine or at the draft.” Good move 
 

 

From people I heard from Hairston was actually very open and front footed about it with teams pre-draft. That doesn't mean he didn't do anything wrong but I think teams felt like they did at least have his full side of the story. 

[DrBob806]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

How many times has Watson been charged with assault, despite over 20 women suing him civily for it?  That's right, zero---yet we are pretty sure he is guilty of it (because he plays for another team).

Exactly. Lots of stones thrown around here at KC, CLE. But now since it's a Bills player, there's nothing to see.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, DrBob806 said:

Exactly. Lots of stones thrown around here at KC, CLE. But now since it's a Bills player, there's nothing to see.

 

If Hairston comes down with 20+ charges of sexual assault, then I will throw stones.

These situations aren't comparable.

[Jerome007]

Let the process play out. It's a civil suit. For an ALLEGED event 4 years before he was in the NFL. It shouldn't be a football issue except for some trash talk banter.

[RoyBatty is alive]

4 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Also you need to find a lawyer to take a case like this on contingency (I am assuming) and it won’t be worth it to the lawyer unless the defendant has assets.  So the “timing” is likely that.  Civil suits are not cheap, no one is going to pursue one against someone with no money, most of the time.

1)On the plaintiff side,  It is trivial to find a lawyer on a contingency basis if the defendant  has deep pockets which an NFL 1st rounder would have, issue is if you want good lawyer or not.

2) Civil lawsuits can be as inexpensive as you want them to be, especially if the layer is on contingency,  next to nothing

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Mostly agree with the rest of your post. Just to be clear though there is no comparison between this case and Watson's. The reason I'm confident Watson is guilty has nothing to do with the uniform he wears. It is primarily the number of accusers confirming the same general story that makes me confident. Plus there is zero wiggle room for nuance or implied consent in what he was doing. Hairston's case is much murkier. One accuser, and circumstances where consent is a lot more difficult to ascertain for people that weren't in the room when it happened.

You are compelled by the sheer number of cases with Watson (me too)….yet still no charges.  This reinforces the difficulty of bringing such such cases to charge.  Despite copious similar accusations of exactly the same MO, DA never charged.  
 

So the posters who still insist that no charge means the victim is always a lying money grabber are simply nuts 

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

He can certainly be charged or sued for alleged criminal actions which occurred before he was drafted.  I don't think the league can suspend him for offenses prior to his status as an NFL player.

I guess he can based off the change in the 2023 language.

 

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/maxwell-hairston-sexual-assault-lawsuit-could-eventually-result-in-league-discipline

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If Hairston comes down with 20+ charges of sexual assault, then I will throw stones.

These situations aren't comparable.

why wasn’t he charged? 

[RoyBatty is alive]

41 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

This issue is not a joke, so for me I’ll wait until the facts come out.  I table judgement on these matters as it could be true and that’s disgusting, or a $ grab by someone wanting to cash in like what happened to Araiza.  I’m glad Araiza finally had a 2nd chance with KC.  So my point is just let’s wait and we’ll find out if there is merit to the suit.  We need him so a suspension would stink.

That is not the function of a message board, it is to make bold uneducated and ignorant declatory comments as soon as possible before someone else does.  Just like alleged "journalism" now. 

[The 9 Isles]

Farking Gold Diggers. 
 

Anyone bringing forward a case like this and loses should have to pay the exact same amount they were asking for to the person they accused.