DrDawkinstein Posted July 2 Posted July 2 6 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I just read the complaint linked in the article in the OP. the gist is he suddenly came into her room uninvited and said he was “high as F,” and then raped her. That is obviously egregious, If true. The common SA cases on college campuses seem to involve both parties being intoxicated and disagreements over consent. That’s not how this one is being framed. Need more of this, at practice, and apparently on this board... 3 3 Quote
BillsfaninSB Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Assuming the Bills had all the information available to them, I don’t understand why they would draft this guy. Especially in the 1st round. It’s just not worth it to me. 2 Quote
Don Otreply Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: All civil lawsuits are by definition money grabs. She filed a police report back when the incident allegedly happened and has posted about it on social media over the years. She is now trying to pursue her final chance at some kind of recourse. My speculative take is that the girl genuinely feels like she was wronged, but that doesn't mean she actually was in a legal sense. There is in fact a middle ground on this issue between "Hairston is a rapist" and "the girl is a lying money grabber." But it's a very messy middle ground with no clear answers. Agree, 1 1 Quote
chongli Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Yes, she reported it in 2021, it was investigated by police, and no charges were brought. The precedence that Roger Goodell has set is that since this happened prior to the player being in the NFL then the NFL will not suspend the player for it. Doesn't mean that Roger can't change his mind, but I'd say it's highly unlikely the league would suspend him. It's not a precedent set by Goodell; it's in the CBA between the NFL and NFLPA. 1 1 Quote
chongli Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, Captain Hindsight said: Also, the Bills were not going to let a possible SB team be asked weekly about the status of their rookie punter's sexual assault investigation. It was an unnecessary distraction and simply not worth keeping him Well, the Bills are a Super Bowl team this year, at least by some accounts. We are favored to win it by ESPN's football power index. I think there difference was Hairston's case was known by BBB in advance of the draft and no criminal charges were filed, vs. with Araiza, we were taken by surprise and no criminal decision had been made. Quote
chongli Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 hours ago, muppy said: The timing is very suspicious. This case begs a trial of some sort. Noone can fully know what happened between them besides those 2 people it just stinks. Unneeded baloney. I hope it is settled quickly LHM Why settle if he did not do it? He's not rich...yet. Quote
Success Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) Bummer of a distraction. Everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt right now, but I do trust Beane to have done the due diligence on this & I trust his opinion. If nothing else, both he & McD put a high priority on character. Edited July 2 by Success Quote
JerseyBills Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 hours ago, thronethinker said: This is civil and not criminal and therefore is the business of the two parties only. League and team should have no involvement. Exactly. And Beane was aware before the draft, I'm sure Bills did their due diligence and were content Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: So, 4 years ago something happened. He was neither arrested nor charged with anything. He becomes a 1st round pick in the NFL and is slated to be paid millions et voila a civil suit is filed. Money grab, All. Day. Long. This chick is setting women back. The veil on 'believe all women' has been lifted thankfully, in exchange for a more even handed - wait till all facts come out. Not all men are guilty, not all women play fair... Both men and woman are capable of heinous chitttt. Hopefully this goes by quickly. 2 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 3 hours ago, HereComesTheReignAgain said: Maybe I am naive, but the fact that he offered to take a polygraph test goes a long way for his credibility. True, although I (and more importantly an attorney 99.9% of the time) wouldn't recommend anyone take a polygraph innocent or guilty! Optics be damned, nobody should open themselves up to potential shenanigans and/or pseudoscience Quote
HappyDays Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: How many times has Watson been charged with assault, despite over 20 women suing him civily for it? That's right, zero---yet we are pretty sure he is guilty of it (because he plays for another team). Mostly agree with the rest of your post. Just to be clear though there is no comparison between this case and Watson's. The reason I'm confident Watson is guilty has nothing to do with the uniform he wears. It is primarily the number of accusers confirming the same general story that makes me confident. Plus there is zero wiggle room for nuance or implied consent in what he was doing. Hairston's case is much murkier. One accuser, and circumstances where consent is a lot more difficult to ascertain for people that weren't in the room when it happened. Quote
HappyDays Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: Assuming the Bills had all the information available to them, I don’t understand why they would draft this guy. Especially in the 1st round. It’s just not worth it to me. Because they rightly assumed the worst case scenario would be a civil lawsuit followed by either a quick settlement or a dismissal. This story is not going to follow Hairston throughout his career. It's barely even a story today outside of the Bills fanbase. Quote
SoCal Deek Posted July 2 Posted July 2 As others have said, the timing of this is obvious. But what most are missing is that the Plaintiffs attorney probably convinced his client to bring charges right now, before McDs defensive strategy goes full Elam on the young man. 😉 Quote
dorquemada Posted July 2 Posted July 2 If I were him i'd get the best attorney my contract allowed me and make sure that witnesses come out of the woodwork, leave no stone unturned in his defense. This is a blatant money grab. Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I just read the complaint linked in the article in the OP. the gist is he suddenly came into her room uninvited and said he was “high as F,” and then raped her. That is obviously egregious, If true. The common SA cases on college campuses seem to involve both parties being intoxicated and disagreements over consent. That’s not how this one is being framed. The lawsuit was filed Tuesday in federal court in Kentucky by a woman who claims Hairston entered her dorm room without being invited, ignored her when she said didn’t want to have sexual intercourse, forcibly removed her bottoms and sexually assaulted her. The Associated Press does not typically name alleged victims of sexual assault. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/02/sport/buffalo-bills-maxwell-hairston-accused-of-sexual-assault-spt 1 Quote
ngbills Posted July 2 Posted July 2 Rashee Rice facing multiple felonies for a hit and run that 100% happened. No suspension until he is proven guilty. Hairston faces allegations from 2021 that was reported but never prosecuted. Would not be shocked if NFL says lets go ahead and put him on the inactive list and possibly suspend him. 1 Quote
WNYFAN1 Posted July 2 Posted July 2 1 hour ago, Jalan81 said: If you want justice you file right away, if you want money you wait until you think you can score more. Hmmm... if this happened (HUGE if), and if I were this girl's father, I'd want to stick it as hard as humanly possible to this guy. Thus I'd have advised waiting. If it didn't happen, then obviously just a money grab. Lot of "ifs" 21 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Because they rightly assumed the worst case scenario would be a civil lawsuit followed by either a quick settlement or a dismissal. This story is not going to follow Hairston throughout his career. It's barely even a story today outside of the Bills fanbase. It's literally the top item on the Headlines of ESPN.COM 1 Quote
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted July 2 Posted July 2 2 minutes ago, WNYFAN1 said: Hmmm... if this happened (HUGE if), and if I were this girl's father, I'd want to stick it as hard as humanly possible to this guy. Thus I'd have advised waiting. If it didn't happen, then obviously just a money grab. Lot of "ifs" It's literally the top item on the Headlines of ESPN.COM Its on the front page of cnn.com 1 Quote
muppy Posted July 2 Posted July 2 (edited) 1 hour ago, chongli said: Why settle if he did not do it? He's not rich...yet. settle as in not be an issue between he and my football team. Not be a distraction. That's what I meant. Is a civil judgment "justice" *shrugs* Closure for all. I hope he didn't do what he is accused of to be honest. Edited July 2 by muppy 1 Quote
TBBills Fan Posted July 2 Posted July 2 4 hours ago, Never NEVER Give-up said: So, 4 years ago something happened. He was neither arrested nor charged with anything. He becomes a 1st round pick in the NFL and is slated to be paid millions et voila a civil suit is filed. Money grab, All. Day. Long. Yup Was reading they were intimate multiples times, so not sure how that is assault. Probably why UK AND THE POLICE didn't charge or punish him with anything 4 hours ago, HappyDays said: Not only was he not charged, the matter was investigated and dropped due to lack of evidence. The girl has posted on social media about it several times over the years but there has never been any corroborating evidence, so I don't know what she or the law firm are expecting to happen here. I would guess they're hoping for a quick settlement. Yup. Hoping to get something because he has a reputation they are tarnishing. Easy prey for the vultures and modern day ambulance chaser attorney Quote
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