Ranking the 15 greatest Bills ever

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Obviously but you putting Lofton above Diggs is baffling to me.

Well, that’s why there’s a chat room I guess.

[Doc Brown]

 

31 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Well, that’s why there’s a chat room I guess.

True.  I mean you could say Jeff Wright over Kyle Williams if you're stuck in that time frame.  Speaking of which, did the mod punish me for something I didn't know about as my posts keep getting deleted.

Edited 17 hours ago by Doc Brown

[Alphadawg7]

59 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Look, I love Josh.  We all love Josh.  But to say at this point he is definitively the best Bills player ever over Bruce and/or OJ is kind of silly.

I would ask if you are old enough to have watched Jerry Butler.  Because those who watched him know he was much better than Lee Evans.  Same with Lofton.

I watched them both, although I was younger when Butler was playing, so my memory of him is less.  As far as Lofton goes, its not about whose career was better IMO, it was who was the better Bills player.  If it was who had the best career, than yes its Lofton...but then in that case, Owens over takes all of them.  In terms of who was the greatest Bills players, as in when they played here, then for me early and prime Lee Evans was definitely better than end of career Lofton.   

 

I think people forget how good Evans really was, he gets short changed a bit because he played in a bad era of Bills football.  Yet he is still the Bills 3rd all time leading WR despite the bad teams and bad QB's he played with.  He would have put up crazy numbers had he got to play with Allen during his prime.  

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

I would ask if you are old enough to have watched Jerry Butler.  Because those who watched him know he was much better than Lee Evans.  Same with Lofton.

Surprised you didn't go with Dubenion over Butler. 

[DeltaDigital]

22 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:

I'm sorry, but I cannot in good conscience leave off Mike Stratton, the heart of the Bills defense in the 1960s.

 

Dion Dawkins is in my mind the best LT this team has ever had and could be the greatest OL we have ever had. Many may disagree with that, but he locks it down covering his QBs blind spot, something I have not seen since Will Wolford was a Bill.

 

Bruce Smith

Josh Allen

O.J. Simpson

Thurman Thomas

Andre Reed

Jim Kelly

Butch Byrd

Eric Moulds

Billy Shaw

James Lofton

Dion Dawkins

Cornelius Bennett

Ted Washington

Mike Stratton

Darryl Talley

 

this is the list. 

[MarkyMannn]

22 hours ago, Rico said:

Josh

Bruce

OJ

Kelly

Thurman

Reed

Shaw

Robert James

Cookie

Sestak

Butch Byrd

Ted Washington

Biscuit

Reggie McKenzie

Joe D

 

 

 

 

 

I like this list cause you included so many 60's Bills.  That D back then was loaded.  Other guys like Stratton, Dunaway, McDole, Edgerson, Saimes.

[Rico]

3 minutes ago, MarkyMannn said:

I like this list cause you included so many 60's Bills.  That D back then was loaded.  Other guys like Stratton, Dunaway, McDole, Edgerson, Saimes.

One thing’s for sure, NO Drought-Era players need apply for the best of the best.

[oldmanfan]

55 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

Surprised you didn't go with Dubenion over Butler. 

Duby was good but Butler would have been an All Timer had he not got hurt.

Edited 16 hours ago by oldmanfan

[billsbackto81]

1 hour ago, DeltaDigital said:

this is the list. 

I would agree with one exception.  I can't put Lofton on this list and leave Diggs out. Both played 4 seasons for Buffalo.  Statistically, Diggs absolutely destroys Lofton by the numbers. 

 

Lofton may have been the better "Bill" but Diggs stat wise was by far the better player.

[RyanC883]

Allen should be 1.  I saw the 90’s teams and he would have been the best player in those teams.  Bruce a close number 2.  Kelly 3 perhaps.  

5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Bills Diggs is absolutely ahead of the Bills version of Lofton. It’s not close. One was the guy and the other was a role player. If you want to argue Reed over Diggs, okay, but no chance on Lofton. Moulds is in an interesting one as well but I’d probably have Bills Diggs over him. In my lifetime (at least that I remember): Reed, Diggs, Moulds, Stevie, Lofton, Beasley

Moulds with Allen would have been something.  

[JK Fan]

I am surprised, given the love of Doug Flutie in Bills Mafia, that he is not on anybody's list.  Don't get me wrong, I do not think he deserves to be there, but I thought someone would suggest he should be there.

[fmr60]

Tom Sestak  should be near the top.

[Sargent Hulka]

On 6/12/2025 at 5:20 PM, njbuff said:

I’ll start with who belongs on be list and worry about the rankings later.

 

Kyle Williams

Thurman Thomas

Jim Kelly

Andre Reed 

Joe Delamielleure

Eric Moulds

Bruce Smith

OJ Simpson

Kent Hull

Cornelius Bennett

Josh Allen

Billy Shaw

Butch Byrd

Cookie Gilchrist

Steve Tasker

 

 

I'd rate Mike Stratton ahead of Cornelius Bennett, and Robert James ahead of Butch Byrd. Before James tore his knee up, he was All Pro three consecutive years.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

No offensive player should be ranked higher than Josh Allen. 
 

 

[PonyBoy]

20 hours ago, chris heff said:

Where is Joe Dufek?

 

The Bills were so bad back then. Anyone remember "What the heck, why not Dufek"? 😂

[SoMAn]

On 6/13/2025 at 4:22 AM, AverageAllensSuspensor said:

1. Scott Norwood

2. Aaron Maybin

3. EJ Manuel

4. J.P. Losman

5. Mike Williams

6. Sammy Watkins

7. Cierre Wood

8. Tom Cusineau

9. John McCargo

10. T.J. Graham

11. James Hardy

12. Lodis McKelvin

13. Trent Edwards

14. Ron Edwards

15. Erik Flowers

Guess you’re too young to remember 1st rounders Perry Tuttle, Booker Moore, and Tony Hunter.