Bills claim Casey rogers off waivers

[NeverOutNick]

16 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Why is everyone all excited about a guy that was a bottom of the barrel signing?  He’s the Andy Isabella of Safeties.   If he proves me wrong, great.  If he gets cut for Hamlin, don’t be shocked.

Andy Isabella of safeties is better than the Damar Hamlin of safeties. He literally should be making hallmark movies instead of being on a football field, he’s that bad at safety 

Edited yesterday at 03:10 AM by NeverOutNick

[Cash]

50 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Why is everyone all excited about a guy that was a bottom of the barrel signing?  He’s the Andy Isabella of Safeties.   If he proves me wrong, great.  If he gets cut for Hamlin, don’t be shocked.

My two cents: because Jordan Poyer was in a fairly similar boat when we first signed him. 

[hondo in seattle]

56 minutes ago, DCofNC said:

Why is everyone all excited about a guy that was a bottom of the barrel signing?  He’s the Andy Isabella of Safeties.   If he proves me wrong, great.  If he gets cut for Hamlin, don’t be shocked.

 

The optimistic and cheerful folks get excited by any signing.  The rest of us are happy when a weak position group gets some depth.  Forrester played reasonably well when fully healthy.  He won't make us forget Hyde or Poyer but he does make a weak group a little less weak. 

 

When you're close to being a SB contender, any little improvement is a cause for excitement, IMHO.  

[NoHuddleKelly12]

6 hours ago, Virgil said:

No comments about his weight or being a 1T?   Y’all are slipping 

Or asking the fan favorite of, “can he also catch?” One wonders by how much his 40 time beat Coleman? 🤔

[klos63]

6 hours ago, ChevyVanMiller said:

I think Darrick Forrest was a pretty significant signing at safety in FA.

Didn't we draft one as well? Jordan Hancock?

 

 

6 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Camp body, but still weird to me to bring in an 8th pure DT.

The fact that Beane has done basically nothing to increase competition at S is the most perplexing non-move of the offseason to me. I 100% agree with the approach to prioritize the front 4, but I would have brought in a couple UDFAs and brought in some cheap options there that have real potential.

What Beane did to help at safety this coming season was to draft Cole Bishop in round 2 last season. 

[Richard Noggin]

8 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I am not saying that I agree or disagree about whether the Bills need more safety help. I truly don't know. 

 

However, Beane and McDermott have a reason for everything. They might choose the wrong guy here or there, but they know what they need. The fact that the Bills have done more or less nothing at safety can mean only one thing: they have what they need at safety. Your thought is the same thing many people, including me, were saying a couple years ago when Bernard, coming off a rookie season when he played little and didn't really impress, had no competition for the job. 

 

Put another way, if the Bills think they need someone, they go and get competition. Like DT this year, and corner. And wideout. If they aren't bringing in competition, it means they like what they have. 

 

Agree generally that McD should be trusted when it comes to the secondary, and especially with the S position. 

 

Disagree specifically that signing Forrest amounts to "more or less nothing at safety." Forrest comes in with more pedigree and better traits than Jordan Poyer had when he signed. SUPER athletic prospect who was fairly productive and flashed when he got his chance to start. 

 

 

[BillsFanForever19]

22 hours ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

Ummm, we are going to be without 2 DL’s for the first 6 weeks of the season. This is why we’re carrying a high number to camp. 

 

Has nothing to do with it. Both Hoecht and Ogunjobi will be at Training Camp. And we've got a full DL squad already without them between carry over, other signings, and the Draft.

 

18 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Prediction:  he steals Ogunjobi’s spot on the roster

 

He did block a FG for NYG last season

It’s pretty rare for us to claim someone off waivers isn’t it?  Granted we’re on the backend of it for years now

 

Ogunjobi is signed to a 1 year 6.96m deal, of which 5.42m of that is fully guaranteed. And they put pen to paper on that after they found out about the suspension.

 

If he wasn't going to be here, they'd have either a.) Ripped up the contract completely and not signed him or b.) Removed or drastically dropped the guaranteed money. Cutting him doesn't make any sense. It's just setting fire to about 5 and half million dollars. If they didn't want to deal with the suspension, they could have just walked away when they found out about it. 

 

I know you wish they did other things along the DL. But guys like Ogunjobi, Epenesa, and Jones are all pretty much guaranteed to be on the roster this season - no matter how many trade or cut posts you make about them (same for Kincaid).

 

Get comfy with the roster we have at DL. You should be pleased with the amount of work he put into it. It's a drastically improved, deeper depth chart

Edited 20 hours ago by BillsFanForever19

[Aesop]

Please tell me I am not the only one...

 

[stuvian]

that's called Gittin' 'er done

[BearNorth]

I just plugged Rogers and the UDFA into my spreadsheet.  I have us at 87 signed, plus three drafted rookies unsigned, Hairston, Sanders, and Walker.  I think that's the 90 man roster as of this morning.

 

 

[Malazan]

I like how angry this has made some people.

[finn]

6 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Agree generally that McD should be trusted when it comes to the secondary, and especially with the S position. 

 

Last year's secondary play was mediocre at best, and McDermott likely has some responsibility for it. Hamlin playing back in the end zone, Bishop failing to contribute, Douglas fading, Elam not ready at all despite three years of development, Rapp no more than adequate... You can make excuses for McDermott all day long, some quite valid. But how long are we going to give him credit for being a genius with the secondary because of Poyer and Hyde? Could it be that Poyer and Hyde were just ready to come on when they did? 

 

Anyway, if he can't develop the players he has now, the benefit of the doubt stops and the doubt begins. 

 

EDIT: Sorry mods: Didn't mean to divert the subject of the thread. Best-case scenario for Casey Rogers is the practice squad, which is a great best case with the current depth at the position. 

Edited yesterday at 01:56 PM by finn

[Starr Almighty]

This signing is the reason for so many "I feel we make the Superbowl this year" posts lately. 

[BearNorth]

Other player we may be overlooking is UDFA SS Wande Owens - listed as from U of New Hampshire, but played at Yale so one would expect a pretty intelligent player, which we know McD likes.

9.59 RAS, 5'11 212 - so thicker than your typical DB - 4.58 40 and has a lot of explosion - vertical and long jump are 9.9+ RAS grades.

 

FWIW

Edited yesterday at 02:38 PM by BearNorth

[Mike in Horseheads]

At

least when they cut him we can say "Mighty Casey had struck out"

[BuffaloMatt]

little light. 6'5" 305. Better hit the gym or the lab.

[Shaw66]

8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Agree generally that McD should be trusted when it comes to the secondary, and especially with the S position. 

 

Disagree specifically that signing Forrest amounts to "more or less nothing at safety." Forrest comes in with more pedigree and better traits than Jordan Poyer had when he signed. SUPER athletic prospect who was fairly productive and flashed when he got his chance to start. 

 

 

Well, I agree that Forest might win a starting job, but his signing certainly did not make him the presumptive starter over anyone on the roster. The guy has played for 4 years and never was more than a part-time starter. So, I think it is hard to say that Beane filled a hole when he signed Forest. It's more like Beane brought in someone who, like other someones he has on the roster, might compete for a starting job.

 

It's true that Poyer had an equally unimpressive record prior to coming to Buffalo, but there are dozens and dozens of players with unimpressive records. The fact that Forests record looks like Poyer's simply highlights how Beane caught lightning in a bottle with Poyer.

[The Jokeman]

13 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Why is everyone all excited about a guy that was a bottom of the barrel signing?  He’s the Andy Isabella of Safeties.   If he proves me wrong, great.  If he gets cut for Hamlin, don’t be shocked.

Because he excelled in a season playing under Ron Rivera who has similar defensive philosophies as McDermott. 

[DCofNC]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Because he excelled in a season playing under Ron Rivera who has similar defensive philosophies as McDermott. 

Yeah, he showed so much he was available for just over vet min, I know if hopium season and everyone thinks McD can make an all pro out of any Joe, but let’s be real here, Hyde a valuable player in GB, they had him all over the field and he did everything.  Poyer is the ONLY guy who has been brought in that really went from nothing to stud.    I’m not saying Forest can’t do it, I’m saying this is a lot like relying on Gabe Davis being your #2 when he’s never played close to that level.

[MR8]

They need camp bodies for reps there's a reason the roster is 90 dudes.... 

 

If this guy is good enough, he could be a trade candidate at cut downs, but at the end of the day he's little more than a camp body, and that's fine.  Bring in dudes on the cheap with NFL experience to battle and make the competition better.  No negative there.