Bills 5th Round Pick (#2) : Jackson Hawes - TE - Georgia Tech

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, Cheektowaga Chad said:

Watching ESPN's coverage I thought I heard it announced as "lineman" in the background 

 

But the the bottom had him listed as TE

 

 

One of the best OTs who ever played for the Bills was an UDFA TE named Jason Peters.  Back in the days of the OJ Simpson's Electric Company, a converted TE named Paul Costa anchored one side of the OL that helped OJ run for 2003 yards ... in 14 games.   Maybe Hawes is the next Bills TE to move to OT.

[zevo]

1 hour ago, BigDingus said:

 

Anything that has potential to help?

 

We literally have starters on this team from round 5 or later. These aren't throw-away picks.

And the 5th rounders we selected won’t help?

[TheBrownBear]

3 hours ago, Delete_Delete_Delete said:

How many ppg did the Bills average last year?

 

 

But think of how many more we'd score with a 5th round WR here.

[ColoradoBills]

He will on occasion line up next to Spencer Brown and then they run right.

Alex Anderson will soon be the LG (maybe C) and they will need that good blocking TE.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, KentuckyBillsFan said:

Just makes absolutely no sense

Just makes absolutely no sense to someone that has absolutely no clue.  

[gonzo1105]

I will not accept Jackson Hawes slander. Haven’t even read a post on here about him and I already know what’s being talked about. Good tough ball player 

[Bag of Milk]

After the draft I spend the evening looking at clips of all the players the Bills drafted.

 

I ask anyone wondering about the Hawes pick to put his name in the search box on YouTube and enjoy the clips!

 

He is an incredibly gifted run blocker and has no trouble taking on DL, LB's and DB's.

 

I know enough about Bills fans in my years following the team to realize that we love physical, tenacious players.  He's going to end up being a fan favorite!

 

Great pick!

[Bruffalo]

1 hour ago, ganesh said:

May be they have a deal for Amari in place 

Amari is done. 

[todd]

4 hours ago, JROC INTEL said:

Someone make this make sense

It’s the 5th round of the draft and we have a full roster, so taking flyers is a good idea. Does that help?

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

4 hours ago, Bag of Milk said:

It's spelled Mensa, obviously you aren't.

"It's nice to be important, but it's more important to be nice..." 😇

 

NOW SHADDUP! 🤨

[BearNorth]

5 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said:

Zach Davidson competition? Do we still have Zach or did I miss something? Wouldn't keep 4, I assume

We basically have 4 on the roster if you count Gilliam, 3rd & 4th TE will be core special teamers.

[GASabresIUFan]

I like the pick.  I had mocked to the Bills about 50 times.  He is Knox 2.0

[Doc Brown]

3 hours ago, SoTier said:

 

One of the best OTs who ever played for the Bills was an UDFA TE named Jason Peters.  Back in the days of the OJ Simpson's Electric Company, a converted TE named Paul Costa anchored one side of the OL that helped OJ run for 2003 yards ... in 14 games.   Maybe Hawes is the next Bills TE to move to OT.

Another trade to Andy Reid that worked out just great for us.

[jkeerie]

I'm thinking is it possible Hawes could replace both Davidson and Gilliam on the roster as a TE with great blocking ability who can also play special teams?  With all the D linemen and secondary adds, it would sure help.

[Xwnyer]

Why???

[Richard Noggin]

8 hours ago, KOKBILLS said:

Hawes was my most mocked TE to the Bills... That's mostly because I never mocked a TE to the Bills till the 6th or 7th Rd. And I knew the Bills are looking for a 3rd TE that can block... And that is Hawes game... It's pretty much all he does, but he does it really, really well...

 

Hawes is and older prospect and will turn 25 in December... He's a very average athlete overall with good explosive numbers and average speed. He's a 7.23 RAS overall...

Blocking... That's it... Blocking and more blocking...

 

 

Isn't Hawes nearly a QUARTILE better than "very average" wrt athleticism? 

 

Edit: @White Linen can't cite a 7.23 RAS and then claim "very average" athleticism. That's not how statistics works. Hawes scored 23% above avg (for as long as they've been reliably tracking these numbers) for pre-draft TEs. Very average is a 5.00 RAS (which I know is also essentially the median as well--but could apply to more than one of the 1200+ TE prospects over the years). 

Edited April 27 by Richard Noggin

[NickelCity]

We're gonna love this dude 

[Prospector]

I was wondering why… then I saw this guy’s videos and heard him talk… he is a mercenary that wants nothing more than to beat the s*** out of people and loves to be combative… this is a cold game guy that will make us all happy

[NewEra]

Haven’t watched any highlights- just listened to his interview from today. I love this guy.  Dude just wants to smack people.  And has an economics degree from Yale.

 

I still have some hope for Davidson, but I’m really rooting for Hawes.  
 

Edit:  watched a little tape. He’s our version of Alan Ricard…. Just a lot smaller.  He’s not just a good blocking TE.  He’s an extremely good blocker.  Maybe he can play the Mack Hollins role on some of those screens 🤣  I’d bet he’ll be in the league for 5+ years as a designated blocker.  

Edited April 27 by NewEra

[White Linen]

3 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

Isn't Hawes nearly a QUARTILE better than "very average" wrt athleticism? 

 

Edit: @White Linen can't cite a 7.23 RAS and then claim "very average" athleticism. That's not how statistics works. Hawes scored 23% above avg (for as long as they've been reliably tracking these numbers) for pre-draft TEs. Very average is a 5.00 RAS (which I know is also essentially the median as well--but could apply to more than one of the 1200+ TE prospects over the years). 

 

The issue isn't your breakdown of RAS but rather it's validity and it's flawed predictability of NFL success.  Admittedly, I haven't thoroughly investigated RAS, but I would use Hawes as an example.  He's not athletic, yet grades much higher than average.