finn Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 30 minutes ago, DJB said: Wow, just 27% of WRs are signed to a second contract. Does this argue for moving up or NOT moving up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 5 hours ago, section122 said: In your example you get starter level players but not difference makers to pair with your wr. A 4 million corner and 2 million dt are bargain players and possible liabilities. The thought process behind @Kirby Jackson's idea is that in the divisional round, the cheap CB and DT will probably give us as much production as the expensive CB and DT that we've already paid. Whereas the top WR will vastly out perform Trent Sherfield (and probably Diggs too for that matter). I don't know if I'm alone on this but I'm evaluating every possible draft option under the assumption that the defense will underperform in the playoffs pretty much no matter what. That's what history tells us will happen. So just about anything that moves resources from the defense to the offense, I am going to support. Edited April 24 by HappyDays 6 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nester Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I don't even care what we do at this point, just want it to be done and tell me who is on the team... 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Nester said: I don't even care what we do at this point, just want it to be done and tell me who is on the team... Suggest you check back Friday morning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 33 minutes ago, DJB said: To me, that is not necessarily an indicator of success for WR’s. A big part of why many of the top receivers don’t sign a second contract, is because they are very successful and become too expensive for the team that drafted them to retain them. All the more reason to get a top WR in the first round, to have that extra year on their rookie deal. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, finn said: Wow, just 27% of WRs are signed to a second contract. Does this argue for moving up or NOT moving up? I wonder how many WRs aren't signed to second contracts because they are traded or because signing them to a second contract is cost prohibitive. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 The Saints, which had meaningful OT concerns to start with, just saw their LG retire. I wonder if this is the straw that broke the camel's back and they revert from being very aggressive in the draft to wanting to trade back. If so, they could be an interesting spot to get to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 9 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Suggest you check back Friday morning. Unless the Bills trade back 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, jkeerie said: I wonder how many WRs aren't signed to second contracts because they are traded or because signing them to a second contract is cost prohibitive. I agree. The truly elite WR’s are retained. Many are good/ very good but the cost inflation at the WR position makes it more attractive to draft another one. Those cost controlled years are valuable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: To me, that is not necessarily an indicator of success for WR’s. A big part of why many of the top receivers don’t sign a second contract, is because they are very successful and become too expensive for the team that drafted them to retain them. All the more reason to get a top WR in the first round, to have that extra year on their rookie deal. Thank you. That chart has so many things wrong with it. One could interpret that thing so many misleading ways. 17 minutes ago, finn said: Wow, just 27% of WRs are signed to a second contract. Does this argue for moving up or NOT moving up? I guess its Center or bust this year. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 F them picks. If you make a massive move just go all the way. Get Marvin Harrison. Safest pick in the draft. If they are making a move all this talk about Udunze could be the smoke screen for trying to get Harrison. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 37 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: were worried that the strategy would then be winning with the offense? we have the #2 QB in the nfl, one whos never had a fully dynamic offense around him like weve seen Mahomes have some years (not this year) its 2024 where the NFL as a whole is driven by offense adding a nasty WR to Josh is not 1 + 1 = 2 theres a synergy where the goal, if trading up, is 1 + 1 = 10 offense is at a rules advantage versus the defense league wide. this is the strategy we SHOULD be feeding into. not all the resources should go to the offense, but your top resources should I’m talking about not trading two 1st plus for 1 WR. I don’t disagree that receivers have become more important, but I still don’t agree that defense doesn’t matter - especially pass rush and DBs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, Mat68 said: F them picks. If you make a massive move just go all the way. Get Marvin Harrison. Safest pick in the draft. We won’t have any draft picks until he’s on his second contract. 😋 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, SectionC3 said: See post upthread about my pondering the value of Jefferson. I realize the goal in maintaining salary structure, etc., but it’s possible that at some point there’s more value in trading for the big ticket, established wideout than there is on spending a fortune in draft capital on a likely, but still uncertain, if-come. But it doesn't just have to be J Jeff. The point where there is more value in a veteran as good as Diggs vs what it costs in draft capital for one of the big three. It is one of the interesting subplots to me. The real potential to swing a trade for a veteran. I don't think the disgruntled divas looking for a big payday offer good value though - they take draft capital and money. That makes J Jeff/Aiyuk/Higgins/Sutton undesirable. More in tune to offering value are the veteran players that are no longer in the teams plans, as they look to move to get younger. So Tenn/Tampa/Seattle/Chicago could be possible reasonable trading partners for Dhop/C Godwin/D Metcalf/K Allen or DJ Moore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 At least one of the pluses of mortgaging the future is that EJ Manuel won't be throwing the new shiny WR the ball. My God, it's like a different Solar system going from Manuel to Allen. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 28 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Suggest you check back Friday morning. Or Friday night if we trade back out of Round 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, Augie said: We won’t have any draft picks until he’s on his second contract. 😋 If we have a SB I’m good with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, njbuff said: At least one of the pluses of mortgaging the future is that EJ Manuel won't be throwing the new shiny WR the ball. My God, it's like a different Solar system going from Manuel to Allen. 🤣 EJ and Josh have one thing in common, neither one of them knows how to slide. 😋 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Augie said: EJ and Josh have one thing in common, neither one of them knows how to slide. 😋 EJ threw an effective bounce pass though. 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 8 minutes ago, njbuff said: At least one of the pluses of mortgaging the future is that EJ Manuel won't be throwing the new shiny WR the ball. My God, it's like a different Solar system going from Manuel to Allen. 🤣 Hospitality tents are safe again 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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