PromoTheRobot Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Update.... Edited March 14 by PromoTheRobot 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Rumour has it that the Bills get the last chance to match his best offer … Not optimistic …. But would be a good get … 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Rumour has it that the Bills get the last chance to match his best offer … Not optimistic …. But would be a good get … Considering the source, more than a rumor. That was discussed. Hopefully we prevail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 The Bills CERTAINLY need depth at DT and I think they should do everything in their power to land this guy. DT’s will be coming off the board and the Bills will be shopping at the 99c store for their DT depth if they don’t get someone like Armstead. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) His wife is from Hornell and her parents still live there. She is also a UB grad. Might be interested in raising their two daughters close to family Edited March 14 by Bag of Milk 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 spending what little cap we have left on an old defensive lineman how original 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Considering the source, more than a rumor. That was discussed. Hopefully we prevail. My issue is not around the truth of the rumour…it’s actually matching the other offer that some team with plenty of cash will throw at him 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I bid a million alpacas. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Bag of Milk said: His wife is from Hornell and her parents still live there. She is also a UB grad. Might be interested in raising their two daughters close to family she also is a doctor with a practice at ECMC apparently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: spending what little cap we have left on an old defensive lineman how original Id do it. Im at a loss for what this WR room looks like, but pressure from the interior is how you get Mahomes uncomfortable.. especially with how the playoffs are officiated. Armstead, Oliver and Jones is a top tier DT rotation. If they can get it done, im ok relying on the Draft, but would hope we double up with a WR in RD1 and another on Day 2. Edited March 14 by SCBills 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: she also is a doctor with a practice at ECMC apparently She also has Bills seasons tickets and lives in Williamsville and her favorite store is wegmans Edited March 14 by FireChans 1 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 This dude is a game wrecker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, FireChans said: She also has Bills seasons tickets and lives in Loch Leah. Really? Wow very cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: she also is a doctor with a practice at ECMC apparently Armstead has been a Walter Payton NFL man of the year nominee 4 times by the Niners. He is a team captain on a team that has much talent on defense. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: Shouldn’t this go under the “Legal tampering” thread? Except during the Super Bowl He sacked Mahomes… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He sacked Mahomes… Not when it mattered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 4 minutes ago, FireChans said: She also has Bills seasons tickets and lives in Williamsville and her favorite store is wegmans Ranch tho 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, JohnNord said: Not when it mattered Who ever does? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, SCBills said: Id do it. Im at a loss for what this WR room looks like, but pressure from the interior is how you get Mahomes uncomfortable.. especially with how the playoffs are officiated. Armstead, Oliver and Jones is a top tier DT rotation. If they can get it done, im ok relying on the Draft, but would hope we double up with a WR in RD1 and another on Day 2. Genuinely baffled we still believe these kinds of defensive investments are going to produce results 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Id do it. Im at a loss for what this WR room looks like, but pressure from the interior is how you get Mahomes uncomfortable.. especially with how the playoffs are officiated. Armstead, Oliver and Jones is a top tier DT rotation. If they can get it done, im ok relying on the Draft, but would hope we double up with a WR in RD1 and another on Day 2. I'd like to give a green checkmark, but that would depend on knowing Beane will trade up/or back for a third round pick. If they go WR in the first, (assuming Armstead) I suspect edge or S in the second. I just can't see a McD team taking WR back-to-back early. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) He has a large market and is going to be paid to Start at 3T. We have Oliver there. It doesn't make much sense for us. I'd also say that 9.5 times out of 10 when we're "linked" to someone - it's exaggerated or just flat out fiction, leaked by agents. Edited March 14 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 7 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Not when it mattered Well,you never say anything pleasant,when it matters...soooo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I’d love to add an impact guy somewhere on this team and if it isn’t WR then going with a monster DT is a good start. Then we sign a solid S for cheap and go WR in round 1 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He has a large market and is going to be paid to Start at 3T. We have Oliver there. It doesn't make much sense for us. I'd also say that 9.5 times out of 10 when we're "linked" to someone - it's exaggerated or just flat out fiction. except in this case it’s legit. Per HappyDays we requested dibs to match his best offer Arik can play all across the line. Rousseau and Armstead as your run defenders at DE is nasty. Then he moves inside on pass rush downs next to Oliver. (FYI his own twitter page he calls himself a DE) Edited March 14 by Warriorspikes51 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: Genuinely baffled we still believe these kinds of defensive investments are going to produce results What if I told you he was playing on a hurt foot and a knee injury that required offseason surgery? Does that sweeten the deal? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 He had wings for lunch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He has a large market and is going to be paid to Start at 3T. We have Oliver there. It doesn't make much sense for us. He can play for DQJ on passing downs … i think he will get plenty of snaps … the question is a familiar one … how much money do they want to keep putting in the DL… the money is the concern even if it ends up $8-10m Edited March 14 by Aussie Joe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: except in this case it’s legit. Per HappyDays we requested dibs to match his best offer And as I said to that, it could very well be a matter of him calling us saying he's interested in coming here. Knowing that he has a market, we told him "give us a call with what you get and then we'll see" - full well knowing that the answer's going to be "can't match that". Unless he's cool not Starting and not being paid full market price - it's not happening. He reportedly has an ~10 team market. I don't see any way ours is going to be remotely the best option. 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: He can play for DQJ on passing downs … i think he will get plenty of snaps … the question is a familiar one … how much money do they want to keep putting in the DL… the money is a concern There's that too. I find it kind of funny that everyone has crucified Beane for spending big money and high Draft picks on the DL on the regular. Now everyone's like "ooh, shiny!". Edited March 14 by BillsFanForever19 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 minutes ago, Billl said: What if I told you he was playing on a hurt foot and a knee injury that required offseason surgery? Does that sweeten the deal? Also,despite being injured he still had 8 or 9 pressures, so there's that. 2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: And as I said to that, it could very well be a matter of him calling us saying he's interested in coming here. Knowing that he has a market, we told him "give us a call with what you get and then we'll see" - full well knowing that the answer's going to be "can't match that". Unless he's cool not Starting and not being paid full market price - it's not happening. He reportedly has an ~10 team market. I don't see any way ours is going to be remotely the best option. Armstead WOULD be starting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Bag of Milk said: Also,despite being injured he still had 8 or 9 pressures, so there's that. Armstead WOULD be starting. Over Oliver? No way. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: And as I said to that, it could very well be a matter of him calling us saying he's interested in coming here. Knowing that he has a market, we told him "give us a call with what you get and then we'll see" - full well knowing that the answer's going to be "can't match that". Unless he's cool not Starting and not being paid full market price - it's not happening. He reportedly has an ~10 team market. I don't see any way ours is going to be remotely the best option. I’m sure it’s real mutual interest. He has 2 young girls. His wife’s parents and medical practice are here. It would make logical sense he would want to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 11 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Genuinely baffled we still believe these kinds of defensive investments are going to produce results Time to fire Beane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m sure it’s real mutual interest. He has 2 young girls. His wife’s parents and medical practice are here. It would make logical sense he would want to be here. In the eternal battle between Warriorspikes51 and BillsFanForever19, I think you have more ammo than usual on this one. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, FireChans said: Time to fire Beane If we end up w one of him or Simmons I'll be right there tbh 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 minute ago, GoBills808 said: If we end up w one of him or Simmons I'll be right there tbh yea I mean why try to get difference makers that are CRITICAL for Super Bowl teams 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I’m sure it’s real mutual interest. He has 2 young girls. His wife’s parents and medical practice are here. It would make logical sense he would want to be here. That makes sense. Us in the shape we're at financially and with who we have starting at 3T, beating out 9 or so other suitors? That doesn't. 2 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: yea I mean why try to get difference makers that are CRITICAL for Super Bowl teams Wait, wait, wait.... isn't you who's always saying "it doesn't matter who we line up on Defense - it isn't slowing down Mahomes"? Edited March 14 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 I see this as about less than 1%. Some other team will offer him a nice contract that we can’t come close to. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: yea I mean why try to get difference makers that are CRITICAL for Super Bowl teams If I have to spell it out for you I will We do not have a personnel problem on defense. Our defense routinely bodybags the regular season. We have a postseason coaching/philosophy problem on defense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: That makes sense. Us in the shape we're at financially and with who we have starting at 3T, beating out 9 or so other suitors? That doesn't. with the way we value rotation and versatility on the DL Beane was probably going crazy when he found out about Armstead. Not to mention the guy is a multi-year team Captain on a great defense & Walter Man of the Year nominee 4 times Once we hear his best offer, Beane can pull whatever levers are needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Just now, BillsFanForever19 said: That makes sense. Us in the shape we're at financially and with who we have starting at 3T, beating out 9 or so other suitors? That doesn't. It would have to be a financial sacrifice that would still result in a decent payday, where the payoff is greater domestic happiness, and an appreciative wife. Somehow, I don't find that notion completely impossible to believe. Human flourishing can't just be summed up by purely economic calculation. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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