TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) We all assumed it would be one of the first moves Beane would do, since it opened up so much Cap, but it’s looking rather unlikely now that we restructure Josh’s contract to open up 23-ish million. If the reports are true, Beane has is close to being under the cap. This is a pretty big deal, is it not? Unless I’m mistaken, paying Josh his big guarantees and not kicking the can down the road will, no pun intended, pay off huge dividends in years to come. I believe the team is already in positive cap space for next season, and they don’t have many big ticket expiring contracts (yet). If Beane keeps up this level of wizardry, Hogwarts will come knocking. Edited March 11 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) They will still do it IMO …Beane got until 4pm Wed .. Edit ..actually he can still do it anyway after that time if he chooses …and pulls other levers to get under the cap by the deadline Edited March 11 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 11 Author Share Posted March 11 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They will still do it IMO …Beane got until 4pm Wed .. Edit ..actually he can still do it anyway after that time if he chooses …and pulls other levers to get under the cap by the deadline I think so too, but it’s a huge positive if they can find a way to get under the cap without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: We all assumed it would be one of the first moves Beane would do, since it opened up so much Cap, but it’s looking rather unlikely now that we restructure Josh’s contract to open up 23-ish million. If the reports are true, Beane has got us under the cap without pulling that lever. This is a pretty big deal, is it not? Unless I’m mistaken, paying Josh his big guarantees and not kicking the can down the road will, no pun intended, pay off huge dividends in years to come. I believe the team is already in positive cap space for next season, and they don’t have many big ticket expiring contracts (yet). If Beane keeps up this level of wizardry, Hogwarts will come knocking. He has to do it and he will do it. If we don't get that 24m, we're screwed. Relying on other smaller re-structures and extensions that may or may not get done to barely have breathing room. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Just now, TheyCallMeAndy said: I think so too, but it’s a huge positive if they can find a way to get under the cap without it. They will need his space this year to make some moves …maybe next year they don’t do it … 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Yes but to be a player in FA, isn’t this pretty much still a foregone conclusion it needs to be done? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Yes but to be a player in FA, isn’t this pretty much still a foregone conclusion it needs to be done? Probably. Maybe Beane wants to see what FA commitments he can land in next couple of days, to know how much money he needs to move around with Josh. More efficient to just do that on Wed, than do it now and move more or less around than he needs to. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whkfc Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 They don't have to do all of it. I think like a previous poster said we can take a wait and see approach and pull less. We are actually looking very good cap wise after this coming season this is our take out medicine season we are gonna develop hopefully a strong plentiful rookie class this year. At some point if we can go a season without doing an Allen restructure we will be stronger long term. Me personally I want to sell out every year until we get one push it as long as possible I don't care. But I'm running out of years I'm not young anymore and just wanna see one of my teams win 1 before I leave this planet. Stupid yeah maybe but I've never seen a team of mine win a championship. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Do it. And let the english see you do it. 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 I can't see a scenario where Beane doesn't do it. It's a no brainer ImO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Maynard said: Do it. And let the english see you do it. Incredible 55 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: He has to do it and he will do it. If we don't get that 24m, we're screwed. Relying on other smaller re-structures and extensions that may or may not get done to barely have breathing room. I find it odd they haven’t done it yet. Edited March 11 by FireChans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Use the restructure as a negotiation tactic Allen will no doubt be helping recruit free agents, let him tell perspective free agents what he is about to do to make sure they have the best possible team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Probably. Maybe Beane wants to see what FA commitments he can land in next couple of days, to know how much money he needs to move around with Josh. More efficient to just do that on Wed, than do it now and move more or less around than he needs to. I agree that’s what I was thinking he makes offers to free agents to see if they agree and if he needs the money he restructures Josh. If he doesn’t then he’s leaves Josh’s contract be when next year they could literally have some of the most cap space in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Last year they waited until Monday before the league year. I'm guessing it will be announced tomorrow if they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Been thinking about this myself. My heart wants Beane to do it. My head does not. I can see Beane meeting it halfway and just doing $11 or $12m, but I think he does it all in the end. Restructuring Allen this offseason and extending Taron and Dion would free up enough CAP space to make 1 or 2 relative splash signings along with a few other lower level signings and still be net positive in our CAP next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Extend him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 They need to sign a lot of players. I don't see any reason why they would not do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Extend him 1 minute ago, MJS said: They need to sign a lot of players. I don't see any reason why they would not do it. The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't do it is if they were going to extend him Edited March 11 by Malazan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
<bills4life> Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Maynard said: Do it. And let the english see you do it. They think we run ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Malazan said: The only reason I can think of that they wouldn't do it is if they were going to extend him Yeah but extending him and you basically rewrite the whole damn contract from that point on. Still kicking the can down the road but kicking it way down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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