H2o Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 The Combine has been fun to watch this year because of the performances by those at our greatest position of need, WR. From the 40's, to the drills, to the tape we have already seen on most of these guys, this is the year we can truly get a difference maker to go with Diggs. The way the draft is going to shake out hinges on how teams view these QB's. That's usually the case, but these year even more so I believe. The first 13 picks are where the most QB needy teams are. In those picks you have 8 teams potentially in the market for a QB. Chicago, Washington, New England, Atlanta, Minnesota, Denver, and Las Vegas. The NY Giants could possibly go QB if they have soured on Danny Dimes and want to groom a guy for a season behind him. There was also talk of the Jets looking at QB's. Then you still have teams like Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tampa who could be in the QB market come the draft. A few of these teams are likely to fill their need for a QB in FA or via trade with Mayfield, Cousins, Fields, or Wilson. How the QB situation plays out will have a huge impact on the top 13 picks. Even with the talent pool there are still tiers to this WR class. It is extremely deep though. It's pretty much Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze followed by the rest. I think all three of those guys are going to be stars in this league. Some people say that Nabers may end up being the 1st WR off of the board and not MHJ. Either way, those two with Odunze are the cream of the crop. Even though two of those guys did nothing at the Combine, I have seen enough game film to know what they are. The next tier are all extremely talented, but they have more question marks. Say the draft pans out like the below scenario. Would you be willing to pay the cost to move up from #28 and how far would you go? 1. Chicago - Caleb Williams 2. Washington - Drake Maye 3. New England - Jayden Daniels 4. Arizona - Marvin Harrison Jr. 5. LA Chargers - Brock Bowers 6. NY Giants 7. Tennessee 8. Atlanta 9. Chicago 10. NY Jets 11. Minnesota 12. Denver 13. Las Vegas I guess a lot of depends on where you feel this team is at overall. And to move up into the top 10, it's gonna cost you. Probably #28, our 2024 2nd, possibly another 2024 pick, 2025's 1st, and a 2025 3rd or 4th as well. Would you call Schoen and pay the price to get Nabers (or Odunze depending on your preference)? Would you wait and see how 6, 7, and 8 play out then hit up Chicago? Me personally, I seriously consider making the move for Nabers. He, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir out there with Josh slinging to rock around? In all seriousness though, who could the defense key on that would stop this offense then? Imo, at least 2 of the 5 would always be open. We'd have the best offense in the NFL. What would you do? Move up for someone? Stay at #28 and see how the draft plays out? Who is your guy and what would you be willing to do to get him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Seems like there are too many first round graded receivers in this draft to move up into the top 10. And even with the top 3, odds are one of the three busts. But who? I say move up in the 16-25 range if there is a WR the Bills absolutely love and feel their draft board shows a huge drop off in WR talent coming soon. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 So for me personally/ realistically: late teens/early 20s for Thomas, maybe 24-26 for Adonai, after that probably stand pat for Ladd or Leggett. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Ladd McConkey. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 My thoughts are that if AD Mitchell slips to around 22-23, then Beane should try to go get him. Watching Cosell talk about the WRs, he says that he thinks Mitchell will be a top 10 wr in the league in 3 years. That would coincide nicely with Diggs departing. He showed explosiveness, speed, agility, and has big game experience. For me, that’s the guy. 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 If Worthy makes it past the Jags at 17 then I’m starting to call teams. Would pull the trigger to trade up to 23 with the Texans to hop the Cowboys for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Me personally? I wouldn't. Because I like Legette a lot and while I understand the risks of 1 year production and age I'd be willing to stand pat and take him. I have started on some of the simulators looking at how high I'd be willing to go for Thomas. He is my WR5 with a borderline 1st round grade. But acknowledging that I am higher than the consensus on Legette if I take him off my board for a moment there is now a little gap between Thomas and the gaggle of 2nd round grades. I'd make a phone call to Seattle at #16. I think Jacksonville is the crunch spot for Thomas, Seattle is a team I think would be willing to move back unless one of the 3 stud edge guys is still there (they are likely looking at the interior of both lines in that scenario IMO). I'd offer my 2nd in 2024 and my 2025 2nd too. 9 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: If Worthy makes it past the Jags at 17 then I’m starting to call teams. Would pull the trigger to trade up to 23 with the Texans to hop the Cowboys for him. I wouldn't worry about Worthy with the Jags. Baulke's history is he likes big. Don't think Worthy will be for them. Dallas much more in play. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I had this crazy dream, I missed the start of the draft, it was pick #12 and the Bills had already made a selection! I woke up before I found out the terms of the trade and who we picked. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) I think the only answer to this question is that it depends how day 1 plays out. Moving into the top 10 is out of the question and 20 is about as high as we could realistically get, so I think you have just wait until then and see who’s still left, but given the number of highly graded WRs and the lack of consensus, I’m staying put. I’d consider a move to 25 or 26, but that’s it. Edited March 3 by mannc 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I don't know enough about college prospects but if the brass loves a guy way more than the other options left, say Brian Thomas as an example, I'm good with giving up a fourth and maybe a third to get him. We should have an extra third because of Edmunds, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Personally, I think we stay put or trade back. We need more cheap rookie contracts to fill this team out with our cap situation. 8 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said: I don't know enough about college prospects but if the brass loves a guy way more than the other options left, say Brian Thomas as an example, I'm good with giving up a fourth and maybe a third to get him. We should have an extra third because of Edmunds, right? The Bills used their second third round pick in the Rasul Douglas trade, so they only have one third round pick Edited March 3 by Special K 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 5 hours ago, H2o said: The Combine has been fun to watch this year because of the performances by those at our greatest position of need, WR. From the 40's, to the drills, to the tape we have already seen on most of these guys, this is the year we can truly get a difference maker to go with Diggs. The way the draft is going to shake out hinges on how teams view these QB's. That's usually the case, but these year even more so I believe. The first 13 picks are where the most QB needy teams are. In those picks you have 8 teams potentially in the market for a QB. Chicago, Washington, New England, Atlanta, Minnesota, Denver, and Las Vegas. The NY Giants could possibly go QB if they have soured on Danny Dimes and want to groom a guy for a season behind him. There was also talk of the Jets looking at QB's. Then you still have teams like Pittsburgh, Seattle, and Tampa who could be in the QB market come the draft. A few of these teams are likely to fill their need for a QB in FA or via trade with Mayfield, Cousins, Fields, or Wilson. How the QB situation plays out will have a huge impact on the top 13 picks. Even with the talent pool there are still tiers to this WR class. It is extremely deep though. It's pretty much Harrison, Nabers, and Odunze followed by the rest. I think all three of those guys are going to be stars in this league. Some people say that Nabers may end up being the 1st WR off of the board and not MHJ. Either way, those two with Odunze are the cream of the crop. Even though two of those guys did nothing at the Combine, I have seen enough game film to know what they are. The next tier are all extremely talented, but they have more question marks. Say the draft pans out like the below scenario. Would you be willing to pay the cost to move up from #28 and how far would you go? 1. Chicago - Caleb Williams 2. Washington - Drake Maye 3. New England - Jayden Daniels 4. Arizona - Marvin Harrison Jr. 5. LA Chargers - Brock Bowers 6. NY Giants 7. Tennessee 8. Atlanta 9. Chicago 10. NY Jets 11. Minnesota 12. Denver 13. Las Vegas I guess a lot of depends on where you feel this team is at overall. And to move up into the top 10, it's gonna cost you. Probably #28, our 2024 2nd, possibly another 2024 pick, 2025's 1st, and a 2025 3rd or 4th as well. Would you call Schoen and pay the price to get Nabers (or Odunze depending on your preference)? Would you wait and see how 6, 7, and 8 play out then hit up Chicago? Me personally, I seriously consider making the move for Nabers. He, Diggs, Kincaid, Cook, and Shakir out there with Josh slinging to rock around? In all seriousness though, who could the defense key on that would stop this offense then? Imo, at least 2 of the 5 would always be open. We'd have the best offense in the NFL. What would you do? Move up for someone? Stay at #28 and see how the draft plays out? Who is your guy and what would you be willing to do to get him? This has Sammy Watkins vibes. We traded up to get Watkins in a WR rich draft, that was a mistake and even though he was the #1 WR prospect that year, he saw guys go after him that dwarfed his on field production. There is no one in this draft I would make a big move to get...The ONLY position you do that for is QB. Any other position is a colossal mistake IMHO. I could see us moving up to like low 20's or something where the compensation is more reasonable, but only if a guy they covet is there who they have a significantly higher grade on than who might be there at 28. I think its more likely we stay at 28 and wouldn't even be surprised if we traded back a little bit and picked up some extra draft capital if there was say a handful of guys they liked at 28 still on the board. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 16 Seattle for Odunze / Brian Thomas Jr 19 LAR - 20 PIT for AD Mitchell / Worthy 25 GB for any of above / Legette / Franklin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Let's not make the same mistake we made on Sammy. Thomas is the only guy I'd trade up 3-4 spots to get. 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiracleAtRich1393 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I'd go up to #6 for Nabers 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Every draft pick is a crapshoot and I hope Beane doesn't trade up and leaves us with more rolls of the dice. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Thomas leggett Mitchell you need to leave the first round with one of them 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 (edited) Could the fact everyone would think we will go WR work in our favour? DE, DT? I think we should surround Josh with the best players we can get so I think we should go WR, just sayin Edited March 3 by london_bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 I’m moving into top 10 for MHJ only, 11-15 for Nabers or Odunze 16-27 for Brian Thomas JR taking Franklin or Worthy at 28 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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