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3 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Carroll coaching Bills DBs? Reliving 1984?

Webb was coaching QBs in Denver last season.

Yeah it surprised no one that he became a QB coach, felt like it sucked for us at the time but he wanted to keep playing longer so he went to the Giants where he had a shot to be an actual backup where as here he might have had a shot to become the QB coach.

 

But with the Giants he did actually get to start the last game of the season when they rested their starters with seeding locked up and threw the only TD of his career, so probably worth it to him.

 

Still haven't seen anything mention on here or anywhere about Matt Barkley having aspirations or aptitude to be a QB coach besides the obvious being a QB.

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From my limited perspective I've got questions about the current WR coach. There was drop-off after Chad Hall's departure. Gabe Davis was already displaying issues with the option routes/post-snap reads Daboll's complicated E-P offense relies upon from its WRs/targets, and those issues increased in 2024 along with mucho dropsies and bunched-up spacings downfield, permeating the entire WR room (including Diggs). 

 

Without looking it up, I don't even know who our WR coach is. And that's a rare gap for me. But I do know his position group was underwhelming overall in 2024. 

 

(Hoping Brady uses his first offseason as OC to strip away much of the bulk and complexity in the variable E-P route concepts he inherited, choosing instead to install them selectively. This offense NEEDS to be more accessible to new WRs ASAP. The Bills in 2024 will have to rely upon drafted and signed WRs to get up to speed more rapidly than in years past if they hope to improve.)

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Davis Webb is still listed as QB coach for the Broncos under Sean Payton.  My guess is that it is in his long term best interest to stay with Payton, who is considered an offensive genius, rather than make a lateral move to the Bills,   even though he's probably friends with Josh Allen.

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8 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Davis Webb is still listed as QB coach for the Broncos under Sean Payton.  My guess is that it is in his long term best interest to stay with Payton, who is considered an offensive genius, rather than make a lateral move to the Bills,   even though he's probably friends with Josh Allen.

I'd go the other way, actually. I would say it's in his short term best interest to learn a couple years from Payton. 

 

But long term his next logical step would be as an OC. He would likely only be OC in name under Payton. And it's looking likely that the Broncos will be looking for some bridge QB like Jimmy G while they transition from Wilson to someone else. Not a very stable spot. 

 

However, here in Buffalo the last 2 OC openings were filled by the QB Coach. It's a pipeline to OC at this point. He's been in the QB room with Allen before and already has a relationship there. More than likely Joe Brady is our OC next year and MAYBE the year after...then it's on to a HC opportunity if successful and the unemployment line if not. 

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11 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I'd go the other way, actually. I would say it's in his short term best interest to learn a couple years from Payton. 

 

But long term his next logical step would be as an OC. He would likely only be OC in name under Payton. And it's looking likely that the Broncos will be looking for some bridge QB like Jimmy G while they transition from Wilson to someone else. Not a very stable spot. 

 

However, here in Buffalo the last 2 OC openings were filled by the QB Coach. It's a pipeline to OC at this point. He's been in the QB room with Allen before and already has a relationship there. More than likely Joe Brady is our OC next year and MAYBE the year after...then it's on to a HC opportunity if successful and the unemployment line if not. 

I think Webb and Brady would be a good match. Webb has learned under Daboll and Payton. Brady learned from Payton as well and we still used some of Dabolls concepts under Dorsey. Webb knows Josh. Idk if he would take a lateral move but I agree. The Bills would prob be the best choice for him to climb the coaching ladder. 

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9 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

From my limited perspective I've got questions about the current WR coach. There was drop-off after Chad Hall's departure. Gabe Davis was already displaying issues with the option routes/post-snap reads Daboll's complicated E-P offense relies upon from its WRs/targets, and those issues increased in 2024 along with mucho dropsies and bunched-up spacings downfield, permeating the entire WR room (including Diggs). 

 

Without looking it up, I don't even know who our WR coach is. And that's a rare gap for me. But I do know his position group was underwhelming overall in 2024. 

 

It's Adam Henry who was the OC for Les Miles at LSU back in the day when Beckham and Landry were coming out. He has been in the league a little while now, has bounced around a few spots as WR coach including working with that pair again with the Browns. I think his is a position that should be under scrutiny. 

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On 1/31/2024 at 6:00 PM, Billzgobowlin said:

So I think we need a QB coach, LB coach and D line coach.  Do you guys have some ideas of good options i side our outside the team currently?  On the staff I think Holcomb could be a LB coach and Lubick could be a QB coach for low hanging fruit.

Mike Caldwell feels like he could be our new LB coach, QB coach is a tough call Jake Peez or Matt Lombardi have connection to Brady and might willing to move from their current jobs with the Rams/Raiders respectively. DL coach might see Sam Mills III brought in that as worked with Bobby in  Carolina.

20 hours ago, BigAl2526 said:

Davis Webb is still listed as QB coach for the Broncos under Sean Payton.  My guess is that it is in his long term best interest to stay with Payton, who is considered an offensive genius, rather than make a lateral move to the Bills,   even though he's probably friends with Josh Allen.

They just brought in Peter Carmichael who has been a QB coach in the past with Payton. 

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42 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

How about this man for LB's
 

 

keuchly and olsen are aleady coaching. they have peewee coaching locked up for charlotte. metzelaars son even plays for them.

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5 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It's Adam Henry who was the OC for Les Miles at LSU back in the day when Beckham and Landry were coming out. He has been in the league a little while now, has bounced around a few spots as WR coach including working with that pair again with the Browns. I think his is a position that should be under scrutiny. 

Agreed 110% on Henry.  WR probably was our worst position group last year. 

3 hours ago, boyst said:

keuchly and olsen are aleady coaching. they have peewee coaching locked up for charlotte. metzelaars son even plays for them.

Son?  Wow.  I would have figured grandson. 

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