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In all reality, catching what is thrown to the receiver is the number one attribute for any WR, the other things certainly help but…, 

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Megatron was an absolute stud. But there is a reason I said Moss was the most talented WR ever and not the best WR ever. 

Other guys have gotten close to Moss or surpassed him based on consistent working as close as possible to their ceiling. But I don't think there was a better WR in the history of the sport than try hard Randy Moss. 

I cannot argue with that Bills Brother

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He was for one play against the Jacksonville Jaguars, and that's how I'll choose to remember him. 

So zay Jones was good for us

 

Being a good person and good football player aren't a package deal lol

4 hours ago, Araiza Curse said:

He had 4 seasons with 1k yards, will mark him down as elite for now. 
Do you have a link to approximate 40 time? I can’t find anything about his speed other than he was a 100m champion. 

He actually ran the 100 yard dash back in the day.   I don't think it was meters yet

 

And they did say he ran a 10 second.. 

 

I've never seen a 40 time for him so I just extrapolated it... 4.5 something seems right 

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3 minutes ago, Araiza Curse said:

Obviously this is true, but I was really curious if being fast and tall would help find some statistical advantage for success. 

Ah, good enough 👍

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14 hours ago, mrags said:

Calvin Johnson was a cheat code. The best WR I’ve ever seen play and it’s not even close. I don’t care what the arguments are for Rice. Johnson would have destroyed every Rice record if he played 17 years. Which would have been 4 years less than Rice. Dude was a monster. 

Given his averages Johnson would have come up 200 receptions, 700 yards, and 39 touchdowns short of all of the records.   Also cant imagine a wideout that large would have played until 38, but thats just me. 

 

I think Johnson used his natural size and speed to overpower guys, but his hands were pretty average.     I think Moss was more naturally gifted. 

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1 minute ago, thenorthremembers said:

Given his averages Johnson would have come up 200 receptions, 700 yards, and 39 touchdowns short of all of the records.   Also cant imagine a wideout that large would have played until 38, but thats just me. 

 

I think Johnson used his natural size and speed to overpower guys, but his hands were pretty average.     I think Moss was more naturally gifted. 

So… playing 4 hears less he’d be only 700 yards short. That’s 1 season right there, or maybe just some phenomenal years in the middle to make up for it. Same thing with the receptions and TDs. 2-3 years at the most and he has those as well. Not to mention the passing game in the league has become more and more wide open now than even when he played. Yes, I know that argument is there for Rice as well. But Rice played until he was 40+. He was also on teams that were more ahead of their times than anyone else in the league at the time. Maybe the Oilers were close. But nobody was slinging it like the 49ers were back in the day. 

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So… playing 4 hears less he’d be only 700 yards short. That’s 1 season right there, or maybe just some phenomenal years in the middle to make up for it. Same thing with the receptions and TDs. 2-3 years at the most and he has those as well. Not to mention the passing game in the league has become more and more wide open now than even when he played. Yes, I know that argument is there for Rice as well. But Rice played until he was 40+. He was also on teams that were more ahead of their times than anyone else in the league at the time. Maybe the Oilers were close. But nobody was slinging it like the 49ers were back in the day. 

 

Aside from TO I am not sure I've ever seen a more physical wideout than Megatron but its just too many what ifs to even have the discussion about Rice's records.    Even though Johnson didnt exactly play in the most wide open version of the NFL, it had become pretty modernized by the time he was in his prime.    Detroit with Stafford were throwing the ball a good 200 times more a year than the 49ers were with Montana and Rice.    Not to mention Rice played in a time where defensive backs were allowed to play a lot more physical game.   Even when considering Johnson's career if he had played a few more years, you just cant account for the possible injuries. 

 

I think it says even more for Rice that he wasnt a genetic freak like Megatron, TO, or Moss.  

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Aside from TO I am not sure I've ever seen a more physical wideout than Megatron but its just too many what ifs to even have the discussion about Rice's records.    Even though Johnson didnt exactly play in the most wide open version of the NFL, it had become pretty modernized by the time he was in his prime.    Detroit with Stafford were throwing the ball a good 200 times more a year than the 49ers were with Montana and Rice.    Not to mention Rice played in a time where defensive backs were allowed to play a lot more physical game.   Even when considering Johnson's career if he had played a few more years, you just cant account for the possible injuries. 

 

I think it says even more for Rice that he wasnt a genetic freak like Megatron, TO, or Moss.  

I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone doubled and triple covered so much as Megatron and he would still come down with it. The defenses knew it was going there and there was nothing they could do to stop it. I’m not arguing that Rice wasn’t amazing. I’m arguing that Megatron was the most dominant WR that I’ve ever seen play. Different kinds of players. Still, if I was choosing an all time team and I had my first shot at any WR to ever play the game. It’s would be Megatron and it wouldn’t be close for me. In fact I’d pick multiple other WRs over Rice in that scenario. Moss, Owens, Harrison for sure. Guys like Hill are the new Rices. Amazing at route running and just so damn fast. In the end, Hill may have a shot at some records if he stays healthy and his speed doesn’t drop off a cliff. 

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are we forgetting the guy on the texans, was it andre johnson?

 

he was so friggen good, but i suppose 6'3 and 4.41 speed.

 

he was HUGE tho, like 230.

 

as great as all these guys were, i think T owens might be the best wr ever.

 

every team he played on he made their O way better, even the bills!

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The upcoming draft is very intriguing at WR.  There is a higher than average number of receivers who possess size and a fair to elite amount of speed:

 

Marvin Harrison Jr.  - 6'4" 4.39

Rome Odunze - 6'3" 4.37

Xavier Legette - 6'3"  4.29

Johnny Wilson - 6'7" 4.42

Adonai Mitchell - 6'4"  4.50

Keon Coleman - 6'4"  4.46

 

All numbers are estimates at this point from www.nfldraftbuzz.com   Most of these guys, if not all of them, will go in the first round of the draft.  There are a couple more receivers who combine elite speed with average height that could go in the first round.  

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1 hour ago, BigAl2526 said:

The upcoming draft is very intriguing at WR.  There is a higher than average number of receivers who possess size and a fair to elite amount of speed:

 

Marvin Harrison Jr.  - 6'4" 4.39

Rome Odunze - 6'3" 4.37

Xavier Legette - 6'3"  4.29

Johnny Wilson - 6'7" 4.42

Adonai Mitchell - 6'4"  4.50

Keon Coleman - 6'4"  4.46

 

All numbers are estimates at this point from www.nfldraftbuzz.com   Most of these guys, if not all of them, will go in the first round of the draft.  There are a couple more receivers who combine elite speed with average height that could go in the first round.  


I think you’re right about them all likely to go in the first round. Harrison and Odunze, at least to me, are off the cards and will be drafted in the top 15 barring an absolute bomb at the combine. 
 

Legette or Coleman wouldn’t be a bad consolation prize out of those 6 guys. 

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On 12/19/2023 at 12:38 AM, Araiza Curse said:

Harold Carmichael was 6’8” but he ran a 4.6   , however he had great hands and could separate. 

 

Plaxico Burress was 6’5” and ran a 4.59. 

Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a  4.35  . 

Randy Moss was  6’4” and ran a 4.3ish 

DK Metcalf  was  6’4” and ran a 4.33 

 

I can’t think of any other tall AND fast WRs .  Can you help me list all 6’4” or taller WRs that also ran at least a 4.4 or faster. 

 

As of now, this metric appears perfect in determining success. If you are 6’4”+ and run fast, just draft them with confidence. 

 

 

After you help me list all the NFL players, can you help find me some of the tallest and fastest people that don’t play football. 

 

Usain Bolt is  6’5” and can run a 4.22  (Super Bowl, retired and in street clothes) .   Imagine if he could have trained to be a football player. 

 

 

I wonder if it’s possible to be much taller than 6’5” and being able to run a 4.4 or faster.  

 

 

THANKS EVERYONE FOR THE INPUT!

 

 

 

Calvin Johnson was 6’5” and ran a  4.35  (Elite)

Randy Moss was  6’4” and ran a 4.3ish   (Elite)

DK Metcalf  was  6’4” and ran a 4.33    (Elite) 

Christian Watson  was  6’4” and ran a 4.36  (Good)

Marquez Valdez-Scantling was 6’4” and ran a 4.37  (Meh) 

Stephen Hill was  6’5” and ran a 4.39    (Bad)

Keyshawn Johnson was 6’4” and ran a 4.41  (Elite)

Miles Boykin  was  6’4” and ran a 4.42  (Bad)

Chase Claypool  was 6’4” and ran a 4.42  (Meh)

Nico Collins  was 6’4” and ran a 4.45  (Good?)

Jalen Hurd  was 6’5” and ran a 4.47  (Bad) 

AT Perry  was 6’5” and ran a 4.47  (Bad-Meh?)

Equanimeous St. Brown  was 6’5”  and ran a 4.48   (Meh)

James Harty  was  6’6” and ran a 4.49  (Bad)

Dorian Green Beckham  was  6’5”  and ran a 4.49   (Bad) 

Limas Sweed  was 6’4”  and ran a 4.5  (Bad) 

AJ Green  was  6’4”  and ran a 4.5   (Elite)

Michael Pittman Jr  was 6’4” and ran a 4.52  (Good)

Quentin Johnston  was 6’4” and ran a 4.52  (Meh?)

Mike Evans was   6’5”  and ran a  4.53   (Elite)

Mike Strachan was 6’5” and ran a 4.53  (Bad)

Courtland Sutton was 6’4” and ran a 4.54  (Good)

Allen Lazard was 6’4” and ran a 4.55  (meh)

Mack Hollins  was  6’4” and ran a 4.55  (Bad-Meh)

Justin Shorter  was  6’4” and ran a 4.55  (Bad-Meh?)

Donald Hayes was 6’4” and ran a 4.57  (Bad)

Drake London was 6’4” and ran a 4.58  (Good?) 

Tee Higgins  was  6’4”  and ran a 4.59  (Good)

Plaxico Burress  was  6’5” and ran a 4.59  (Good)

Harold Carmichael  was 6’8” and ran a 4.6  (Good)

Sean Dawkins  was 6’4” and ran a 4.61  (Good)

Kelvin Benjamin was  6’5” and ran a 4.61  (Bad-Meh) 

Justyn Ross  was 6’4” and ran a 4.64  (Bad?)

Irvin Charles  was  6’4”  and ran a 4.66  (Bad?)

Ed McCaffrey was 6’5” and ran a 4.69  (Good) 

Lil Jordan Humphrey was 6’4” and ran a 4.75 (Bad) 

Jake Bobo  was 6’4”  and ran a 4.99   (Bad)

 

 

It appears that the 4.4 is a good approx line so far. 2 meh/bad   4 good/elite

 

 


I would never consider putting Keyshawn Johnson in the same Category as Moss or Calvin Johnson. Those two guys were almost always the best player on the field. 

Also if we are calling 4.5 fast, seems like 6’3” can be tall.

 

TO agrees 

 

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The problem with Tall + Fast guys is they're often "high hipped" so it's harder for them to run precise routes. That's why so many of them fail.

 

With long legs, it's hard to get twitchy action at the hips. If you remember the knock on DK Metcalf and reason for him dropping to late in the 2nd round, it was a concern that his limited route tree would make his routes predictable. A lot of people want to take a victory lap on predicting DK's success, but it was an incredibly rare accomplishment that he learned how to be more of a precise route runner after college. 

 

A player close to home who plays with "high hips" is Gabe Davis. He wins downfield and on simple patterns, but has trouble separating in short areas because it's hard for him to turn rapidly and run crisp routes. He's only 6'2'' but it's the major issue with a lot of these guys. The opposite of that spectrum is Stef Diggs. 

 

The difference becomes very clear when you look at Gabe winning routes vs Diggs winning routes.

 

I prefer route winners over "Big and Fast" guys, but it's nice to have both. The unicorns are the ones who can somehow bend like a 5'10'' WR at 6'4''.

 

In short, the best predictor of success is definitely not "who is the biggest and fastest."

 

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On 12/20/2023 at 6:58 AM, Over 29 years of fanhood said:


I would never consider putting Keyshawn Johnson in the same Category as Moss or Calvin Johnson. Those two guys were almost always the best player on the field. 

Also if we are calling 4.5 fast, seems like 6’3” can be tall.

 

TO agrees 

 

I was just posting all 6’4” + players and their respective 40times. 

Keyshawn had 4 1,000 seasons and 2 900 seasons. That’s why I included him, not necessarily because I thought he was as good as Megatron. 

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