League owners expected to award SB LXI (61) to Los Angeles in 2027

[klos63]

15 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

It doesn't need to be at the Red Carpet Inn. There are plenty of Hilton hotels around and Mariotts and stuff around the area plenty nice enough

Not referring to the Red Roof Inn

There's nothing to do in Downtown Buffalo and stuff?

You tell me,  what will 60+ thousand people find to do in downtown Buffalo in February?

 

[Buffalo03]

2 minutes ago, klos63 said:

You tell me,  what will 60+ thousand people find to do in downtown Buffalo in February?

 

The same that 1 person can. We have a Casino, tons of bars, attractions. We also have the Falls, they can visit and Canada if they want. There's a lot someone that's coming up for one night or a couple nights can do. You act like they will be moving here lol

[Buffalo03]

1 hour ago, Offside Number 76 said:

There are 2,385 hotel rooms in Buffalo.  This includes tiny boutiques as well as large hotels, and it includes the entire city, not just downtown.  That's roughly 1% of the total needed.  I don't think the other 99% can be found in the surrounding area even if we include NF Ont.

So, of all the hotels in Western NY with multiple floors, there's only 2300 rooms in the most populated area of WNY? I find that hard to believe. A few hundred rooms a hotel and there's got to be a few thousand hotels between Orchard Park and Niagara Falls as well as other areas south of the stadium

Edited December 14, 2023 by Buffalo03

[Offside Number 76]

2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

So, of all the hotels in Western NY with multiple floors, there's only 2300 rooms in the most populated area of WNY? I find that hard to believe. A few hundred rooms a hotel and there's got to be a few thousand hotels between Orchard Park and Niagara Falls as well as other areas south of the stadium

I think you overestimate the capacity of these hotels.  The Embassy Suites might look big, for example, but I'll bet it has only about 150 rooms.  The largest hotel in Buffalo, the former Hilton and Adams Mark, now called the Buffalo Grand, has 400.

 

My figures come from Visit Buffalo Niagara, which ought to know.  https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/majority-of-buffalos-hotel-rooms-booked/71-ebd86012-b73a-4d58-8f69-ed768d206c03

 

And there are not a few thousand hotels in the area.  Not even close.  

[BillsPride12]

I love the Bills...and I love Buffalo....but the people that keep dreaming there's any remote possibility of Buffalo hosting a Super Bowl are completely out of touch with the reality of the modern NFL 

[Offside Number 76]

24 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

I love the Bills...and I love Buffalo....but the people that keep dreaming there's any remote possibility of Buffalo hosting a Super Bowl are completely out of touch with the reality of the modern NFL 

 

Right?  I don't think people understand the enormous amount of infrastructure needed to pull it off.  Detroit couldn't handle it last time they hosted; we sure can't.

 

We *might* have the infrastructure for NCAA basketball regionals (round of 16).  But even when we host opening round games, it gets a little tight.  The biggest sporting event I've seen here was the 2011 World Juniors, and everything downtown was booked solid--as were several of the suburban hotels and a number of NF hotels.  (2018 drew significantly less interest.)  

Edited December 14, 2023 by Offside Number 76

[Buffalo03]

2 hours ago, Offside Number 76 said:

I think you overestimate the capacity of these hotels.  The Embassy Suites might look big, for example, but I'll bet it has only about 150 rooms.  The largest hotel in Buffalo, the former Hilton and Adams Mark, now called the Buffalo Grand, has 400.

 

My figures come from Visit Buffalo Niagara, which ought to know.  https://www.wgrz.com/article/news/local/majority-of-buffalos-hotel-rooms-booked/71-ebd86012-b73a-4d58-8f69-ed768d206c03

 

And there are not a few thousand hotels in the area.  Not even close.  

It would also be within a 40 miles radius from any direction of the stadium that you would have to take into account. It may not be thousands. But there are a lot

[Offside Number 76]

56 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

It would also be within a 40 miles radius from any direction of the stadium that you would have to take into account. It may not be thousands. But there are a lot

I'm familiar with what the word radius means.

We don't have the hotel rooms.  It's not close.

I've already demonstrated, with citation, that Buffalo has 1% of what's needed.  If you think the other 99% of rooms are within 40 miles of Rich, even WITH Canada, which the NFL wouldn't count because of the Detroit situation years back, I'd love to see your data.

Edited December 14, 2023 by Offside Number 76

[Jauronimo]

5 hours ago, klos63 said:

You tell me,  what will 60+ thousand people find to do in downtown Buffalo in February?

 

The same thing the locals do. Find a warm place to get stupid drunk and wish you were somewhere else.

[zow2]

All the Super Bowls match my age. Helps me keep track, but starting to feel old 😭

[Jauronimo]

1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

It would also be within a 40 miles radius from any direction of the stadium that you would have to take into account. It may not be thousands. But there are a lot

Batavia, Lockport, Medina, Pembroke, Corfu, and Lewiston have at least 30 more rooms between them.  Whats that take us to?  Attica has a lot of housing.

[zow2]

3 hours ago, BillsPride12 said:

I love the Bills...and I love Buffalo....but the people that keep dreaming there's any remote possibility of Buffalo hosting a Super Bowl are completely out of touch with the reality of the modern NFL 

 

Seriously. lol.  The Chances of the NFL having a Super Bowl in Cairo, Egypt are probably greater than Buffalo, NY

[JohnNord]

14 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

There are a lot of things that Buffalo does not check the box for...

 

First the hotel room rule would only apply to Buffalo and surrounding New York areas... You need a passport or a New York State enhanced license to get into Canada which negates the Canadian hotels ... They can't count Canadian hotels when most people don't have an enhanced license or a passport

 

There is also a 50° minimum for the month and the city in which it's played... Unless it's given a special waiver which New York City was given... The average temperature in Buffalo in February is like 39°... Too cold 

 

The league also says the city must have an indoor convention center that holds at least 850,000 square feet... I don't think any convention center in Buffalo is close to that

 

 

 

 

 

I think weather is only part of reason why Buffalo would never see a Super Bowl.  Even if they put a dome on the new stadium and put the stadium downtown, Buffalo is still too small of a city to host that big of an event.

 

The NFL did host Super Bowl 26 in Minnesota in the dead of winter.  It was freezing and there was a ton of snow but cancelled flights etc didn’t have much of any effect on the decision.  
 

 

[Punching Bag]

9 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I heard all chargers fans can go to that SB for free but they don’t expect that to affect ticket sales in any significant way.  

I heard all chargers fans can go to that SB for free but they don’t expect that to affect ticket sales in any significant way.  

I heard all chargers fans can go to that SB for free but they don’t expect that to affect ticket sales in any significant way.  

I heard all chargers fans can go to that SB for free but they don’t expect that to affect ticket sales in any significant way.  

I heard all chargers fans can go to that SB for free but they don’t expect that to affect ticket sales in any significant way.  

I heard all chargers fans can go to that SB for free but they don’t expect that to affect ticket sales in any significant way.  

 

I have heard that before repeatedly.

10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Batavia, Lockport, Medina, Pembroke, Corfu, and Lewiston have at least 30 more rooms between them.  Whats that take us to?  Attica has a lot of housing.

 

We do appreciate you willing to share your room.

 

😉

[Matt_In_NH]

6 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

I have heard that before repeatedly.

I tend to say the same thing over and over, I am also redundant

[Buffalo716]

9 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm talking about how people said "even if it's a dome, their aren't enough rooms". I'm speaking on behalf of it being a dome. I know it's too cold in February to host it outside. Even if you took away Canadian hotels, that would only be a small portion, just between Orchard Park and Niagara Falls alone, they should be able to find a decent amount of rooms. That's not counting 40 miles in the other directions like East Aurora, and areas south of the Stadium. 40 miles is a lot of area to cover. Like I said, just Downtown Buffalo alone, should have a lot of those rooms. I'm not sure how big our convention center is but I'm not sure why that matters. Why do people needs to go to a convention center to go to a Super Bowl?

Cuz it's part of the qualifications for a host City.. the nfl brings the NFL experience ... An interactive NFL theme park to the host City the week before the SB 

 

And it requires a 800,000+ sq ft convention center to house ...

 

Buffalos biggest is like 120,000 sq ft

9 hours ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

The only issues I remember off the top of my head were golf courses and Dome. They want a few courses to play on around the game and I doubt they’ll want to play in the cold with mud or snow. 
 

edit- they want 70000 seat stadium and new one is smaller than that. 

 

Quick look before I go to work said Minnesota made offer with 17,000 rooms and another thing said nfl wanted 20,000 rooms from New Orleans. As of 2014 we had 17,664 hotel rooms in Erie and Niagara Falls NY(couldn’t get a date on falls numbers). Article said within an hour drive. So you can add in Batavia(some classy hotels there for patriots owner), parts of Rochester and ellicottville. Now we’re pretty close. That doesn’t include anything built in Erie county in the last 8 years either. 

How long ago did Tom Brady’s dad comment on the hotels? A lot have been built since then. Some are very nice. 

Yea the golf courses thing is huge cus nobody is laying in feb

 

We also don't have a big enough convention center to fit the NFL experience Superbowl theme park

[SoonerBillsFan]

On 12/13/2023 at 11:43 AM, Limeaid said:

Very dislike NFL pressuring teams like Buffalo who have no chance of hosting Superbowl but other teams which get Superbowls get more income.

 

It has become imbalanced.

Dome or Great weather in Feb = superbowl. No way in hell they award Buffalo a superbowl being played the 1st weekend in February.   Then what if, even with a dome, we have a blizzard there?  Fans cant get to the **** Superbowl.  As much as we would like it, Buffalo is never hosting a superbowl. 

Edited December 14, 2023 by SoonerBillsFan

[Buffalo03]

1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

Batavia, Lockport, Medina, Pembroke, Corfu, and Lewiston have at least 30 more rooms between them.  Whats that take us to?  Attica has a lot of housing.

Lol. I of course meant more populated areas and I'm pretty sure those places are further than 40 miles away 

2 hours ago, Offside Number 76 said:

I'm familiar with what the word radius means.

We don't have the hotel rooms.  It's not close.

I've already demonstrated, with citation, that Buffalo has 1% of what's needed.  If you think the other 99% of rooms are within 40 miles of Rich, even WITH Canada, which the NFL wouldn't count because of the Detroit situation years back, I'd love to see your data.

I believe you

[Jauronimo]

51 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Lol. I of course meant more populated areas and I'm pretty sure those places are further than 40 miles away 

I believe you

What are these populated areas within 40 miles of the Buffalo metro area you speak of?

[Buffalo03]

14 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

What are these populated areas within 40 miles of the Buffalo metro area you speak of?

I'm just thinking of 40 miles on all sides of the stadium. Obviously, I was wrong. 40 miles is a long way so at least 100,000 would seem legit. But even that is obviously off

[Nextmanup]

Does this mean it isn't coming to Buffalo in 2027?

 

 

[djp14150]

26 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Does this mean it isn't coming to Buffalo in 2027?

 

 

If they domed it would it come?

[klos63]

4 hours ago, Matt_In_NH said:

I tend to say the same thing over and over, I am also redundant

I repeat myself when under stress. 

I repeat myself when under stress. 

I repeat...

[Tenhigh]

23 hours ago, chongli said:

 

It has never been held on a Valentine's Day before. It was held on February 13 in 2022, a day before Valentine's Day. Women complained a lot on Tik Tok, apparently:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/super-bowl-2022-valentines-day-weekend-b2012012.html

 

People are not happy after learning the 2022 Super Bowl will take place Valentine’s Day weekend

 

 

 

“I wanna talk to whoever decided that Super Bowl Sunday was on Valentine’s Day weekend because they are def single,” one woman named Elena, who goes by the username @elenaa_l10, wrote on TikTok, as she mouthed: “What’s going on?”:

 

 

In another video from a woman named Ava, who goes by the username @definetlynotava8, she wrote: “To the person that moved the Super Bowl to Valentine’s Day weekend… I don’t think you understand how much you ruined.”

 

 

There are lots more in the link above. I never understood why this day was such a big deal.

 

BS holiday created by hallmark and propped up by women to get free stuff.  

[Buffalo Super Fan]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Does this mean it isn't coming to Buffalo in 2027?

 

 

Yes the only thing potentially coming to Orchard Park new Bills stadium is the CFL Grey Cup game if the Buffalo Bills vacate the Buffalo market in 30 years when there Bills lease is up because of poor stadium location and economic choices for Western New York like no dome by New York State, Erie County and Terry Pegula. I will no longer be on earth most likely by then if I am I would be 86 years old it simply won’t matter anymore so it doesn’t affect me as a Buffalo Bills fan. The Super Bowl was never coming to Buffalo but Orchard Park open air stadium supporters never understood that open air stadium means 20 events at best at the new Bills stadium just a waste of a lot of money with high end finishes but no dome. We kissed the area chances of getting double NCAA Basketball Tournament enter two buildings Key Bank Center and Buffalo Bills new stadium alternating odd and even years along with WWE Wrestle Mania, plus college football bowl game and UB Bulls football games goodbye with a open air stadium decision. Which has to be one of the dumbest economic decisions in my lifetime of almost 56 years as a resident of Western New York. 

 

The Buffalo Bills are going about even the open air stadium decision backwards. If I owned the Bills there would be drive in movie screens in the offseason and flea markets in the Bills offseason in those empty lots decades ago. Western New York residents not enough people really understand how backwards economically this Western New York area is. Hawaii and San Diego have flea’s market in their stadium and Arena parking lots when there are no events inside the stadium or arena to produce revenue instead of picking the taxpayers pockets. Because it’s easier for the Bills owner to sit on his but and ask for public money each lease picking our pockets let’s just tell it like it is. The Bills don’t really try to produce outside football games revenue why should they it’s easier to threaten the taxpayers of leaving every new Bills lease. In Honolulu, Hawaii Aloha Stadium when I was there on vacation they used the food stands and restrooms for the Hawaii flea market. It’s just sad yet we got Bills fans that really believe Orchard Park is going to be a destination this time like Disney land? Wrong put the drive in movie screens up, mini golf and flea’s market because that is all a open air stadium in a middle of nowhere is really good for. But other than things like that nothing to see here carry on we got a tailgating parking lot so Buffalo is saved yahoo. Right wake up we aren’t even doing open air stadium Rich Stadium right back in the day. I doubt the new Bills open air stadium will be any different outcome of 15 to 20 events tops a year like Rich Stadium. Again hope I am wrong but Western New York history says otherwise economically we have to be for a city our size one of the most backwards area in America for understanding business in my opinion. Go Bills! Go Bonnies! Let’s Go Buffalo 

[Jauronimo]

 

15 hours ago, Buffalo03 said:

I'm just thinking of 40 miles on all sides of the stadium. Obviously, I was wrong. 40 miles is a long way so at least 100,000 would seem legit. But even that is obviously off

There is nothing of any significance within 40 miles of Buffalo. Look at a map.  

 

https://milesofme.com/buffalo-ny/40

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

 

There is nothing of any significance within 40 miles of Buffalo. Look at a map.  

 

https://milesofme.com/buffalo-ny/40

Superbowl media members can stay in the Fredonia dorms.

[BRH]

Besides all the real reasons why Buffalo/WNY will never host a Super Bowl, think of how ***** annoyed those of us who live here would be if we got one and the Bills weren't in it.  Traffic jams and long lines everywhere for two weeks, and asshat fanbases to boot.  No thanks.

[Jauronimo]

They estimate the super bowl brings about a million people to town over the 2 week spectacle.  Its not just players, media, and fans.  Everyone who is anyone is there.  Queen Latifah? You bet your ass shes there. Steve Guttenberg? Hell yeah. Ringo Starr? Quite possibly. There are parties all week, events, concerts, pop up clubs and restaurants.  The NFL has an interactive experience near their media setup that claims multiple city blocks.  Uber drivers come in from all over the nation to work. And the whores! Good god man, the whores, they're everywhere!!  I love you, Buffalo, but you're just not ready for primetime.  

[chongli]

1 hour ago, FireChans said:

Superbowl media members can stay in the Fredonia dorms.

 

They were good enough for Bills players and staff in the 80's! 😅

[Buffalo03]

1 hour ago, Jauronimo said:

 

There is nothing of any significance within 40 miles of Buffalo. Look at a map.  

 

https://milesofme.com/buffalo-ny/40

I just said I was wrong. The "look at a map" is not needed

[Bubba Gump]

On 12/14/2023 at 9:57 AM, klos63 said:

You tell me,  what will 60+ thousand people find to do in downtown Buffalo in February?

 

 

I forgot, everyone outside of Buffalo doesn't like to ski. I know many people from down south that take week long vacations up here just to go skiing. Not 70,000, but to say there is nothing to do around Buffalo is just ignorant. 

[BillsPride12]

9 hours ago, BRH said:

Besides all the real reasons why Buffalo/WNY will never host a Super Bowl, think of how ***** annoyed those of us who live here would be if we got one and the Bills weren't in it.  Traffic jams and long lines everywhere for two weeks, and asshat fanbases to boot.  No thanks.

Knowing our luck the two teams playing in it would probably be New England and Dallas 

[klos63]

On 12/15/2023 at 12:12 PM, Bubba Gump said:

 

I forgot, everyone outside of Buffalo doesn't like to ski. I know many people from down south that take week long vacations up here just to go skiing. Not 70,000, but to say there is nothing to do around Buffalo is just ignorant. 

Most probably like to ski on mountains, not hills.

[bigduke6]

actually going to the Super Bowl,  as a fan of either team,  doesnt really matter anymore.   SB has become a wealthy meet and greet for the most part, for people who couldnt care less about the actual game and have oodles of money to throw away.   so not getting a SB in Buffalo even with a new stadium doesnt matter much to me tbh.   we're a small market team,  part of our charm,  much the same as Green Bay,  who will never host a Super Bowl either.

 

LA,  the city where their team won the SB,  and barely anybody from LA cared,  gets another SB.   not surprising.   

[Mr. WEO]

On 12/14/2023 at 12:41 AM, Buffalo03 said:

I never understood the "not enough rooms" thing. I think I heard there needs to be 200,000 hotel rooms available within a 40 mile radius from the stadium. You mean to tell me between Orchard Park, all of Buffalo and downtown Buffalo, Amherst, Niagara Falls, Canada and all other areas around the stadium that they can't find 200,000 hotel rooms? 40 miles is a long enough distance and in just Downtown Buffalo alone would have a lot there already 

 

as of early 2020, city of Buffalo had 2400 hotel rooms. 

[Buffalo03]

3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

as of early 2020, city of Buffalo had 2400 hotel rooms. 

I got it

[Mr. WEO]

On 12/15/2023 at 2:12 PM, Bubba Gump said:

 

I forgot, everyone outside of Buffalo doesn't like to ski. I know many people from down south that take week long vacations up here just to go skiing. Not 70,000, but to say there is nothing to do around Buffalo is just ignorant. 

 

lol who is coming up "from down south' to spend a week near Buffalo to ski??

[Bubba Gump]

Just now, Mr. WEO said:

 

lol who is coming up "from down south' to spend a week near Buffalo to ski??

 

Guess I have more diverse friends than you. I know plenty of people who come back and spend holidays up here. Or they come during winter break. It's not that strange. 

[bigduke6]

On 12/14/2023 at 7:42 PM, djp14150 said:

If they domed it would it come?

probably not.   even with a dome,  none of the upper tier wealthy people who show up because its an event and dont care its a football game, would be willing to shell out the $$$$$