Which WR prospect will the Bengals screw us out of?

[DrDawkinstein]

7 minutes ago, Low Positive said:

He is always hurt in Cincinnati and tends to drop of lot of balls. Just not against the Bills.

 

True, but still ended up way better than I ever expected. I was sure he would bust. Maybe that's due to his current team and we'll see a significant drop off when he takes a truckload of money from a worse team.

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, mrags said:

No. Like Elam. Epenesa. Teller. McCloud. Jones. Ford. Moss. Hodgins. Hell, it took Cook, Bernard, and Shakir a full year to be used regularly  

Elam was rotating with the later round pick who beat him for the job at CB2 his 1st season and is starting this season. Epenesa was in the rotation and has been in the rotation as his performance has fluctuated over the seasons. Pretty sure Ford ended up starting until he lost the job, Moss was RB2. Overall this was a terrible take.

[mannc]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think our 1st pick will be CB.

 

I also think the fans have a much larger demand for RT than our FO. The OL is playing the best we've seen in years, maybe decades. No need to spend a 1st there when we have bigger holes elsewhere.

 

I could see New England, Arizona, Green Bay, Jets, and Broncos all possibly taking a WR if their guy is there, so agree Odunze isnt falling to us either. So who we got?

 

 

Troy Franklin would be a perfect fit.  Good chance he’ll be available when we pick. Can’t wait to see him and Odunze go at it in the PAC 12 champ game on Friday.

[BullBuchanan]

28 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Honestly, I've never seen WR2 as big a need as most of this board. Especially with the emergence of Kincaid and Shakir. And Defense will obviously be where all the holes and needs are.

 

But with Diggs aging out and likely wrapping up his career in a couple years, it would be nice to have his replacement already on the team.

I don't disagree.

[dave mcbride]

3 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Considering CB is a premium position and our Secondary will be wiped out, it's likely. I dont think it's so Billsy tho. It's the modern passing NFL.

I can't believe I'm writing this, but if an athletic, game-changing safety is there, it's something I'd consider. They are really hurting at that position, and the best safeties these days can make a big difference. Ideally, though, I'd prefer to get a safety in round 2 or 3 as long as the player projects to being good. 

[Mark Vader]

51 minutes ago, msw2112 said:

The Bills have lots of draft needs and I have no idea how the board will fall.  If they do decide to go WR in the first round, I would love Coleman.  I'm not a Michigan State or Florida State fan, but every time I've seen Coleman play (he started at MSU and transferred to FSU) he's been dominant and clutch.  He's a beast.  He'd look great in at Bills uniform.  If the Bills wait until the mid rounds, I like Roman Wilson of Michigan.  He's got decent size, great speed, has shown great hands this season (the replay catch on Saturday notwithstanding) and he comes through in the clutch.  I have a Michigan bias, but it's the team I watch week in and week out, so I get to see their guys play a lot.

 

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Roman-Wilson-WR-Michigan

 

for those who haven't seen this highlight, check out this catch:  

 

As a Michigan fan, I am skeptical of Roman Wilson's potential as a pro player. 

 

He has some speed and looks like he has good hands. He's on the short side, and I don't know how good of a route runner he is.

 

Definitely a mid round pick. I don't think he's an immediate contributor, but I wouldn't discount him if the Bills drafted him.

[Charles Romes]

“Bills v. Bengals” might have had some special relevancy in 2022 but the league moves very fast. 

[JGMcD2]

34 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Elam was rotating with the later round pick who beat him for the job at CB2 his 1st season and is starting this season. Epenesa was in the rotation and has been in the rotation as his performance has fluctuated over the seasons. Pretty sure Ford ended up starting until he lost the job, Moss was RB2. Overall this was a terrible take.

As is tradition with this poster. 

[warrior9]

Whoever suggested we drafted Quentin Johnston this past draft should stay absolutely quiet. 

[DrDawkinstein]

47 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I can't believe I'm writing this, but if an athletic, game-changing safety is there, it's something I'd consider. They are really hurting at that position, and the best safeties these days can make a big difference. Ideally, though, I'd prefer to get a safety in round 2 or 3 as long as the player projects to being good. 

 

The worst part is, we really need TWO. So might be one in the 1st and one in the 5th. 😳

[Mango]

4 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'll be shocked if we take an OL before the 5th round. There's no need. Unless we cut Morse already and are looking for his replacement.

I think we have to cut Morse just to make the cap work. 

[BBFL]

4 hours ago, RiotAct said:

good point; I can see the Pats* going Marvin Harrison Jr in Round 1, and then the best QB prospect remaining with their 2nd pick.

Agree. Can’t see the Pats not being top 3, let alone top 5. Their only hope is if Chicago decide to draft a QB and teams scramble for the next guy available and have Harrison Jr. be there. I think he goes in the first 5 pics, that’s without question. Let’s just hope they don’t find a QB to get him the ball on top of that…

[BillsVet]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Honestly, I've never seen WR2 as big a need as most of this board. Especially with the emergence of Kincaid and Shakir. And Defense will obviously be where all the holes and needs are.

 

But with Diggs aging out and likely wrapping up his career in a couple years, it would be nice to have his replacement already on the team.

 

Every pass I see Shakir catch is against his body including the long score against the Jets.  I wouldn't count on him as a candidate to be the Z receiver. 

 

Kincaid is being used on underneath throws, but is better suited for downfield.  If they elect to use him that way.

 

They've been addressing WR with lower-value options and it shows over the years with 1 year UFA deals and mid to low round draft picks.  

 

Buffalo hasn't used a 1st or 2nd on a WR since Zay Jones...when the entire league is taking them high.  Shakir and Kincaid shouldn't change that they need higher talent there.  

[SoonerBillsFan]

5 hours ago, todd said:

My guess? Class is deep, we won't pick a WR in round one unless one of the top 3 fall. We'll go interior DL if there's one graded there. After that, BPA.

That would be the Bills way of doing things.  Ignoring wespons for a franchise QB to get a **** Defensive player

[DJB]

WR is a massive need. Good chance or hopefully Davis isn’t back, we don’t have a clear #3 either and Diggs is old. If Diggs goes down so does our season. 
 

Thats not good enough.

 

WR is a massive need and thankfully it’s a great WR draft.

 

[Mikie2times]

6 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Give me Keon Coleman, he's the guy who I realistically would want given the draft position. 

 

All of them are excellent choices though. 

All day, bigger body guy and very fluid.

[Utah John]

7 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think our 1st pick will be CB.

 

I also think the fans have a much larger demand for RT than our FO. The OL is playing the best we've seen in years, maybe decades. No need to spend a 1st there when we have bigger holes elsewhere.

 

I could see New England, Arizona, Green Bay, Jets, and Broncos all possibly taking a WR if their guy is there, so agree Odunze isnt falling to us either. So who we got?

 

 

If there's a great center available I think the Bills grab him.  Morse is playing well but won't be around forever.  I'm not hearing moans about Spencer Brown this year which means he's probably got it figured out.

[DrDawkinstein]

12 minutes ago, Utah John said:

If there's a great center available I think the Bills grab him.  Morse is playing well but won't be around forever.  I'm not hearing moans about Spencer Brown this year which means he's probably got it figured out.

 

Agreed on Morse, but it's been that way for a while and the last 2 drafts were way better stocked at Center, I dont think there is a great one in this draft. None that will go in the 1st, and likely none in the 2nd.

 

We had good opportunity the last two drafts to grab Morse's future replacement, even if we stashed them at OG in the meantime.

[CEN-CAL17]

Give me Xavier Worthy WR Texas.

 

Great hands, 4.3 speed, quick and great route runner. He is a Devonte Smith Type, though 1 inch taller and 10-12 lbs heavier.

 

Plus he’s a 559 area code like Josh….

[Nextmanup]

2 Ohio State guys in the top 5 WRs available in the draft?  That's amazing.  

 

[Maynard]

I want Rome Odunze. If we gotta move up, so be it! 

[DapperCam]

Bills are going to go DB, DT or EDGE in the first this year I bet. Take a look at the depth chart for next year and who is still signed.

[DrDawkinstein]

10 minutes ago, Maynard said:

I want Rome Odunze. If we gotta move up, so be it! 

 

Trading up in the early 1st for a WR! Bold move!

[Big Blitz]

Sign Tee Higgins.  

[DrDawkinstein]

26 minutes ago, CEN-CAL17 said:

Give me Xavier Worthy WR Texas.

 

Great hands, 4.3 speed, quick and great route runner. He is a Devonte Smith Type, though 1 inch taller and 10-12 lbs heavier.

 

Plus he’s a 559 area code like Josh….

 

Good call.

 

Side note, I like that there arent any WRs on Draftek's list that are under 5'11" and only 2 that are under 6'.

[Thurman#1]

The Bills could draft anywhere between 32 and probably #8.

 

Way too early to even reasonably guess.

 

 

8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

We're going to have to cut Poyer, White, Morse, Harty and others just to get even on cap.

 

We arent dropping $25M+/yr on another WR.

 

Even with all of Beane's magic.

 

 

Getting to cap won't be particularly difficult.

 

But yeah, wildly expensive FAs aren't going to be on the menu this year. 

 

 

8 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Yup. He will. And with restructuring and possible realistic cap cuts the Bills have a TON of flexibility to be the team to offer it.

 

Nah. They really don't. I mean, it's theoretically possible, but not realistically. And we certainly have some flexibility, but very far from a ton.

 

Spotrac has us 30th out of the 32 teams in cap space next year, $42M over the cap. OvertheCap has us 31st out of 32, with $29M over. Either way, not good.

 

In 2025, OvertheCap and Spotrac both have us 29th.

 

 

 

Edited November 29, 2023 by Thurman#1

[KOKBILLS]

9 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

The Bills need to draft a WR.

 

The Bengals are about to lose Tee Higgins, and once again find themselves without Burrow and likely with another Top 10 pick.

 

As of today, the Bills are at #17 and the Bengals #12. I expect the Bills to end up around #15 and Bengals around #10.

 

Neither team will have a chance at Marvin Harrison Jr. He'll be a top 5 pick, hopefully not to New England. I imagine Odunze will be off the board before either of us pick as well. Although Odunze is close to a Higgins clone and Bengals might end up pretty high if they likely lose out.

 

Looking at Draftek's list (just to get a list), who do we like?

 

 

I could see Cincy going back to the LSU well and grabbing Nabers, which would leave Coleman or Egbuka depending on who drafts between us.

 

Or do we go CB then get one of the 2nd round WRs? Anyone there to get excited about?

 

CB? I'll drive 750 miles for that riot! 

[LABILLBACKER]

14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Trading up in the early 1st for a WR! Bold move!

We have to....we already have no WR2 and Diggs is approaching 30.  Josh's prime years start now!  We're going to need multiple wrs over the next 2 drafts. Harty, Hines and Sherfield are as good as gone.  Shakir looks promising but we have no idea what we have in Shorter.  The time to strike on young first contract wrs is now.  Hopefully it starts with Odunze!!

[Maynard]

38 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Trading up in the early 1st for a WR! Bold move!

Never been done before! 

[Maynard]

7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We have to....we already have no WR2 and Diggs is approaching 30.  Josh's prime years start now!  We're going to need multiple wrs over the next 2 drafts. Harty, Hines and Sherfield are as good as gone.  Shakir looks promising but we have no idea what we have in Shorter.  The time to strike on young first contract wrs is now.  Hopefully it starts with Odunze!!

Agreed man! Dr. Donkeystein has probably never heard of the guy. I’m a UW fan and Odunze gets us pointed in the right direction. A legit number 2 and a solid potential number 1 after Diggs checks out.

[DrDawkinstein]

12 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

We have to....we already have no WR2 and Diggs is approaching 30.  Josh's prime years start now!  We're going to need multiple wrs over the next 2 drafts. Harty, Hines and Sherfield are as good as gone.  Shakir looks promising but we have no idea what we have in Shorter.  The time to strike on young first contract wrs is now.  Hopefully it starts with Odunze!!

 

This draft is too deep at WR, and we have too many holes on Defense, to waste resources on moving up for a WR.

 

I like Odunze, but I'd rather stay put, draft whoever falls to us at 15 (Coleman/Ebuka/Worthy) and even take another WR later on with one of the picks we save by not trading up. Like Jermaine Burton if he falls to the 4th or 5th.

 

3 minutes ago, Maynard said:

Agreed man! Dr. Donkeystein has probably never heard of the guy. I’m a UW fan and Odunze gets us pointed in the right direction. A legit number 2 and a solid potential number 1 after Diggs checks out.

 

You're a real Tool, Maynard.

[Scott7975]

I don't know crap about the draft as I don't watch college ball.  This team does need another WR though.  I'd love to see them grab a speedy outside guy with good hands.  Outside of that I think this team is going to need to retool the defense quite a bit.  We all know McD loves his defensive drafts.  Other than depth, I think our Oline is fine.  I know people rag on Brown but he has been playing pretty well outside of a couple games.  I would go so far to say that our Oline has been one of the best in the NFL this year honestly.

[Dan in Owego]

17 from South Carolina slightly older prospect but everything we currently  lack from our group👍

[Solomon Grundy]

11 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I think our 1st pick will be CB.

 

I also think the fans have a much larger demand for RT than our FO. The OL is playing the best we've seen in years, maybe decades. No need to spend a 1st there when we have bigger holes elsewhere.

 

I could see New England, Arizona, Green Bay, Jets, and Broncos all possibly taking a WR if their guy is there, so agree Odunze isnt falling to us either. So who we got?

 

 

Think they'll learn from the Elam pick?? Go get Legette or Coleman!! Get a WR with a NFL body and freakish ability. 

11 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Give me Keon Coleman, he's the guy who I realistically would want given the draft position. 

 

All of them are excellent choices though. 

Don't sleep on Xavier Legette. He's Deebo Samuel like

[Solomon Grundy]

11 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

Very good point about QB costs and the need to make others better. But I wouldnt go past the 3rd round without taking a WR.

 

Take Poyer out of your list too. We have no Safeties going into next year.

Rapp?? 

[Dan in Owego]

6 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Rapp?? 

Currently a deep pool in free agency, would take some cap work but there is this Winfield dude that looks good to me🤔

[Bruffalo]

18 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Think they'll learn from the Elam pick?? Go get Legette or Coleman!! Get a WR with a NFL body and freakish ability. 

Don't sleep on Xavier Legette. He's Deebo Samuel like

I’d be fine with either, but I think Coleman has a skillset that will directly complement Allen, he has real WR1 upside.

[Billz4ever]

11 hours ago, Bruffalo said:

Give me Keon Coleman, he's the guy who I realistically would want given the draft position. 

 

All of them are excellent choices though. 

Given I live close to Tallahassee and I'm married to a FL State Alum who makes me watch every game either on TV or in person, I agree.  Coleman is a special talent.

[DrDawkinstein]

23 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Rapp?? 

 

Was on a 1 year deal.

[Dr.Sack]

Bengals will trade up to 3. And Burrow will go 20-0.