Fleezoid Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Half the Bears team should be standing by his locker saying, "Take me with you, please!" 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, boyst said: i don't know if i want to send a first for a guy looking to cash in. i'd consider Elam + a 2nd or preferably a 3rd. Agreed Elam and a 3rd is the most I would give up. Doing this means Tre White is gone next year and we need all the high draft picks we can muster in this loaded draft class for other needs. I trust our FO with finding late round DBs…but we also have expiring WR contracts coming up in a draft class with a lot of talent at the position (love the UW kid #1 and I love that UNC kid Walker I think is his name). I want it all because winning this year is essential but having cheap great pieces for the future is just as important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Limeaid said: First plus on last year of contract? Only if teams had chance to negotiation extension ahead of time and it would have to be an agent team really, really trusted. He’s on the last year of his rookie deal, not some 32 year old vet looking for a ring. Zero chance he is traded without a contract extension in place. *The first plus assumes a pick expected to be at the end of the first round. A team expected to draft early or mid-round would be a different story. Edited October 31, 2023 by BarleyNY 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yobogoya! Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 So if the Bills bring him in now, what's the over/under on McDermott playing him pre-Week 15? In all seriousness, McD is the type of coach who wants a player fully acclimated to his system before he puts them out there. Even guys we've brought back who know his system inside and outside usually sit a week or two before he's ok with activating them for gameday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 (edited) This is the guy to target, likely need to replace tre white next season and beyond. This guy accomplishes that Edited October 31, 2023 by Cheektowaga Chad 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fleezoid said: Half the Bears team should be standing by his locker saying, "Take me with you, please!" Except Tremaine, who's sitting down the row saying: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I'd offer a package with Elam and maybe a 3rd for him Cut Tre after the season and pay Johnson when the time comes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: So if the Bills bring him in now, what's the over/under on McDermott playing him pre-Week 15? In all seriousness, McD is the type of coach who wants a player fully acclimated to his system before he puts them out there. Even guys we've brought back who know his system inside and outside usually sit a week or two before he's ok with activating them for gameday. There are no CBs currently on the roster with an interception, and the defense hasn't had a pick since the Miami game (four games in a row without one). My guess is that if he landed here, the lack of playmaking ability at the CB position would dictate that he plays sooner rather than later. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsatlastin2018 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, Yobogoya! said: So if the Bills bring him in now, what's the over/under on McDermott playing him pre-Week 15? In all seriousness, McD is the type of coach who wants a player fully acclimated to his system before he puts them out there. Even guys we've brought back who know his system inside and outside usually sit a week or two before he's ok with activating them for gameday. He plays Week 10! Minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stlbills13 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He's the kind of guy I'm willing to go all-in on. A true difference maker. Go win a Super Bowl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I was high on Jaylon coming out... but he is balling in his contract year after being basically just above average for his first 3 seasons. I wouldn't give up a first if that is the price. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 7 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: Agreed Elam and a 3rd is the most I would give up. Doing this means Tre White is gone next year and we need all the high draft picks we can muster in this loaded draft class for other needs. I trust our FO with finding late round DBs…but we also have expiring WR contracts coming up in a draft class with a lot of talent at the position (love the UW kid #1 and I love that UNC kid Walker I think is his name). I want it all because winning this year is essential but having cheap great pieces for the future is just as important white is going to be gone next year regardless. if we get a CB we kick the can on drafting one next year until 2025, hopefully same with WR. we can kick the can if we cannot keep Davis and the newly acquired via trade wr. the deep wr draft can get us a replacement for davis if we need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I think Beane values draft picks to much to make this happen. Jaylon Johnson is 24 years old and a great corner. Given his age, I would seriously debate giving the Bears a 1st or at the very least a 2 and a 5. I think both of those are too steep for Beane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Getting rid of Tre at the end of 2023 carries a 26MM cap hit. That drops to just over $10mm at the end of 2024. Tough situation. Second contracts becoming burdensome for high injury prone positions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I think Beane values draft picks to much to make this happen. Jaylon Johnson is 24 years old and a great corner. Given his age, I would seriously debate giving the Bears a 1st or at the very least a 2 and a 5. I think both of those are too steep for Beane See Diggs trade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 3 minutes ago, boyst said: white is going to be gone next year regardless. if we get a CB we kick the can on drafting one next year until 2025, hopefully same with WR. we can kick the can if we cannot keep Davis and the newly acquired via trade wr. the deep wr draft can get us a replacement for davis if we need it. I just hope Beane finally understands that Davis is not a reliable #2 WR. He showed up last week, he showed up vs Steelers last year, and showed up huge vs KC in the playoff loss. He’s fun to have as 3rd WR but anything more than a 3yr 30mil contract would be insane. Plus I LOVE Diggs but he’s on the back 9 of his career too. Time to really Invest in a WR early in the draft. No more lame duck potential guys like Shorter, Shakir (hopefully he becomes something), etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 Bears supposedly looking for one or two Day 2 draft picks How about 2nd in 2025 and 3rd in 2024? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, BarleyNY said: No team is going to trade for him without a new contract in place. If the Bears can’t sign him and another team wants him as only a rental, a 3rd round pick is more than fair compensation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 A second and Elam seems like a great fit Every now and then a player and trade seems easy to make and a perfect fit for both teams This is one of those times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said: I want it all because winning this year is essential but having cheap great pieces for the future is just as important It's easy to have lot's of talented rosters over 50+ years but it's REALLY EASY not to win a SB in that span............so no, they aren't equally important. I am a draftnik and big college football fan who follows HS recruiting etc...........but I can say without hesitation that the most overrated personnel chip is a 1st round pick. Less than half of them are worth picking up their option after year 3. It looks like a good draft class but you just never know if you are going to hit or miss so if the right player is out there who can make a big difference it's not necessarily the bad play people assume it will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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