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Alphadawg7 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Tre, Milano, Daquan...our 3 best players at each level of the D. I hate to say it, but winning the division just became very difficult. We are already a game behind Miami and still have to face them again in Miami. Jones and Milano were huge in our win the first time, missing them and Tre automatically for the rematch already dramatically changes that matchup. We each have 12 games left, one of those is the second head to head in Miami. If Dolphins win that rematch, that would mean they would have a 2 game lead on us and a better divisional record, meaning we would need to win 3 more games than them over the other remaining 11 games. So Miami would need to go 8-3 and we would need to be 11-0 over those 11 games which we face Chiefs, Eagles, and Bengals still amongst others. We already have 2 losses to mid-tier teams as it is. And if we lose even 1 of those games, that means Miami then needs to go 7-4 in their 11 games. Now if we beat Miami again, then winning the division gets a little more achievable, but would still have very little margin of error as we would still need to at least match Miamis record over the other 11 games. If they win even 1 more game than us, they still win the division. And if Miami wins the division, that means a probable playoff game in Miami where we won't have weather to help counter some of that speed and will likely be down at least 3 of our best players on defense (unless Milano or Jones can make it back for playoffs). So the hard truth here is that the 2 losses vs Jets and Jags which we should have won now loom large divisionally, and to add to our challenge we must be near perfect the rest of the season to realistic have a shot at winning the division without at least 3 of our best defensive players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan in MD Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Honestly, with some of the speculation that was going on yesterday I'm actually a little relieved when it comes to Milano. Even just knowing that he can be 100% headed into next season is a positive. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said: Sounds like a full rupture for Jones if it requires surgery. 6 month recovery. Bummer. JJ Watt tore his pec last season and missed 8 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Tre, Milano, Daquan...our 3 best players at each level of the D. I hate to say it, but winning the division just became very difficult. We are already a game behind Miami and still have to face them again in Miami. Jones and Milano were huge in our win the first time, missing them and Tre automatically for the rematch already dramatically changes that matchup. We each have 12 games left, one of those is the second head to head in Miami. If Dolphins win that rematch, that would mean they would have a 2 game lead on us and a better divisional record, meaning we would need to win 3 more games than them over the other remaining 11 games. So Miami would need to go 8-3 and we would need to be 11-0 over those 11 games which we face Chiefs, Eagles, and Bengals still amongst others. We already have 2 losses to mid-tier teams as it is. And if we lose even 1 of those games, that means Miami then needs to go 7-4 in their 11 games. Now if we beat Miami again, then winning the division gets a little more achievable, but would still have very little margin of error as we would still need to at least match Miamis record over the other 11 games. If they win even 1 more game than us, they still win the division. And if Miami wins the division, that means a probable playoff game in Miami where we won't have weather to help counter some of that speed and will likely be down at least 3 of our best players on defense (unless Milano or Jones can make it back for playoffs). So the hard truth here is that the 2 losses vs Jets and Jags which we should have won now loom large divisionally, and to add to our challenge we must be near perfect the rest of the season to realistic have a shot at winning the division without at least 3 of our best defensive players. The Bills didn't have weather to help them counter Miami's speed and in January (the Bills and Dols play again the last game of the season) the weather in Miami will be more like it was in Buffalo 2 Sundays ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Our two most impactful defensive players this season. Gone. Hard to imagine a worst case scenario on defense. Yea, this overreaction is getting annoying and it’s not only aimed at you. Tre hurts for depth, but he was getting back to good.. he wasn’t elite in his form. Milano is elite. He’s a linebacker. Let me repeat myself.. he’s a linebacker. Jones was playing at an elite level. He’s a defensive tackle. Yea, it sucks. But we signed Poona Ford for a reason. He’s a 1T who likely now becomes Daquan lite. We drafted Dorian Williams in RD3 for a reason. The guy drafted before him was slated to start for Dallas at LB before he went down for the year in preseason. Tre is a problem if Elam is a complete bust. We seem to have zero depth behind Jackson and Benford now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 (edited) The Steelers secondary is trash. They lost their big run stuffer Heyward and are 3-2. Just held down the Ravens to 10 points. TJ Watt and Fitzpatrick are the only real players on that D. The Lions lost their prized UFA in Gardner Johnson and now Mosely. The Eagles lost their version of Taron Johnson for the season. The Bengals went to the SB down their top CB and the worst Oline in the league. The Chiefs have gotten there with meh defenses. It’s only decimating if the players and coaches let it be - so long as the D line is in tact: Groot Oliver Von Floyd AJE Philips Ford Settle Jonathan Shaq And Hyde Benford and Dane stay on the field. No reason THAT defense should completely fall off a cliff. I expect a drop off. But no way should any teams not named the Eagles Chiefs Bengals Chargers Dolphins or Jags put up more then 24 on us. In those games we will need to score 30. Edited October 10, 2023 by Big Blitz 7 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 In his presser, McD said that Groot, Shaq and Benford are all improving. If we get all those guys back and only lose Milano and DaQuonn, it will be a huge plus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 SOB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 minute ago, jkeerie said: In his presser, McD said that Groot, Shaq and Benford are all improving. If we get all those guys back and only lose Milano and DaQuonn, it will be a huge plus. Always look on the bright side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Always look on the bright side As hard as it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Einstein said: Our two most impactful defensive players this season. Gone. Hard to imagine a worst case scenario on defense. And Taron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 2 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: These incessant injuries just keeps pushing seasons out another year. It's unbearable. 2 years in a row now, just awful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 https://bangedupbills.com/2023/10/09/examining-buffalo-bills-matt-milanos-right-knee-injury/?amp=1 Says an extremely small chance for Milano to be back this year. Daquan Jones return might be realistic, but Milano not as much by the sounds of it 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 So sounds like we’ve lost Tre & Milano for the year and there’s a chance Jones can get back late in the season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Herc11 said: Hopefully Milano is just a fracture. He could absolutely return this year if his ligaments are intact A fx is typically a 6-8 week period, with 8 being lengthy. Depends what type of fracture. If it is tibial plateau fracture usually involves cartilage damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ngbills said: If you can score and get some pressure. The one thing this D should be able to do still is get pressure with a healthy Miller, Groot, Oliver, new and improved AJE, Floyd. Mix in blitzes from the DB's. They got pressure yesterday. It does no good if your CB keeps getting smoked. Hopefully Benford gets healthy, Johnson isn’t too banged up, and Jackson stays healthy. Elam is a flashing neon sign that reads “Convert your third and longs here!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 According to Banged up Bills Milano looks to be a season ending injury but not a career threatening one. Jones will have a small but not insignificant shot at a return late in the regular season or early playoffs. Not the worst outcomes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 If he doesn’t know, then it’s season ending Next man up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: https://bangedupbills.com/2023/10/09/examining-buffalo-bills-matt-milanos-right-knee-injury/?amp=1 Says an extremely small chance for Milano to be back this year. Daquan Jones return might be realistic, but Milano not as much by the sounds of it Cheers for the link… Seems Milano’s particular fracture is rare in the NFL… if I’m reading it correctly he found only. 4 other recent examples Hoping no ACL damage.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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