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Conor Orr (from Si.com) and his prediction: Bills at 9-8 🤔


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4 minutes ago, Nelius said:

No way. Not surprising in a sense but good lord the quality plummeted.

It really did.  The posting will get more manic as the year goes on, and the season will end by him being completely wrong again. 

 

edit:  there will also be more Miami hype at some point. 

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9 hours ago, Italian Bills said:

Ok, everything in sport is possible, but com’on, calling the Bills at a 9-8 season it seem a little exaggerated to me. 
 

And plus the Pats winning the Division. 
 

I leave the link for you to see. 
 

Comments (honest) ?

 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/24/nfl-season-preview-predicting-every-game-daily-cover


 

 

 

It's a curious take and he knows it.  Of course, opinions are like anuses, and everyone has one.  

 

I think he's swinging for fences with his argument that Bill O' Brien will revitalize the offense and propel the Pats into first place of the AFCE.  No one will give you credit for picking the Bills.  We've owned the AFCE for a few years now.  Picking the Fins or Jets may be a sexy option because of the improvements to their rosters.  But if Orr is right about the Pats, he can lay claim to being the NFL's new Nostradamus.  

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2 hours ago, Jauronimo said:

Floundering is a better term.  SI is to sports what Ames is to shopping.  Totally irrelevant.  CNN replaced SI with Bleacher Report.  I doubt anyone under the age of 25 has even heard of SI.  SI is basically just a memory of time spent sitting in @teef's waiting room before a root canal.

 

Do they even do a swimsuit edition anymore?     

Yes, and Martha Stewart is literally one of the models this year. Tracks with their demographic! https://swimsuit.si.com/model-years/2023

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I don't think we were a 13-3 team last year.  Contrary to the opinion of some others, I think McD performed well to attain that record.  I think the cumulative impact of injuries and detrimental events would have resulted in fewer regular season wins if we had an average HC.

 

But to predict the Bills falling to 9-8 is a bit much, even given our tougher schedule and roster holes.    

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9 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

I thought you were joking until I clicked on the link.  Holy *****!

To be fair to SI, the gimmick generated major mainstream media coverage! https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/style/martha-stewart-sports-illustrated-cover.html and https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2023/05/16/martha-stewart-sports-illustrated-swimsuit/

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The only way I can see the Bills at 9-8 is if Josh misses multiple games. If Josh plays the season there is NO WAY he loses 8 games. He is just too good. Josh will have to carry the team this season but this is not so unusual in the NFL these days. My fear is whether or not he is protected by his OL.

 

But hey, we do have some first round corners and even traded up for one of them, so things are looking up. 

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2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said:

The only way I can see the Bills at 9-8 is if Josh misses multiple games. If Josh plays the season there is NO WAY he loses 8 games. He is just too good. Josh will have to carry the team this season but this is not so unusual in the NFL these days. My fear is whether or not he is protected by his OL.

 

But hey, we do have some first round corners and even traded up for one of them, so things are looking up. 

I see your point, but if you look at the long arc of teams led by great quarterbacks for long periods of time, there are almost always some down seasons: 7-9 a couple of times for Brees, 6-9-1  and 8-7-1 for Rogers, 8-8 for Roethlisberger in his prime, 9-7 for Brady after winning a SB, 9-7 for Russell Wilson while in his prime, etc., 8-8 (with Shanahan) and 7-9 for Elway, 8-8 for Favre in his prime in GB, etc. 

 

I'm not saying that the Bills will suffer a dip this season, but they most likely WILL suffer one at some point during Allen's prime. This year makes a certain amount of sense given the schedule, the division, and the cap situation (which prevented them from signing higher-level FAs). But they have the potential to win 13 games again too.  

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10 hours ago, MJS said:

What do people see in the Patriots? They clearly have the least talented roster in the division.

 By a mile too…the bills at 9-8 I certainly disagree with but I could see the rationale behind it.  The pats winning the division is an absurd prediction 

 

jets are a bit of an unknown, could be great could be pretty good.  I think the league caught up pretty quickly with what the dolphins offense likes to do and analysts are assuming they’ll return to early last season form which I just don’t see.   I’m having trouble finding 8 losses for the bills unless we’re solely basing off of the starters only preseason action lol

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1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Best HC in NFL history for starters.

 

Also the roster on defense is one of the best in the NFL and they got a real steal with their 1st round pick who IMO should have been a top 5 - 10 pick, offensively they probably still missing a few pieces but if Mac Jones can revert back to his rookie form or close to it they are going to be one of those grimy type of teams that rack up a lot of wins and Hoodie knows how to tame division foes in recent years.

Here was the "perfect" offensive game by the Bills:

Scored a touchdown on all seven offensive drives (excluding kneeldowns)

Averaged 12.3 yards per pass

Averaged 6.0 yards per rush

Did not take a sack

Went 6-for-7 on 3rd down and the only 3rd down they did not convert was the final kneeldown of the game

Had more touchdown passes (five) than incompletions (four)

Gained yards on 49 of 51 plays (excluding kneeldowns)

Only negative yardage plays were two kneeldowns at the end of the game

 

This must be the reverse psychology part.

 

Finally tamed into a mercy kneel.

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Just now, dave mcbride said:

I see your point, but if you look at the long arc of teams led by great quarterbacks for long periods of time, there are almost always some down seasons: 7-9 a couple of times for Brees, 6-9-1  and 8-7-1 for Rogers, 8-8 for Roethlisberger in his prime, 9-7 for Brady after winning a SB, 9-7 for Russell Wilson while in his prime, etc., 8-8 (with Shanahan) and 7-9 for Elway, 8-8 for Favre in his prime in GB, etc. 

 

I'm not saying that the Bills will suffer a dip this season, but they most likely WILL suffer one at some point during Allen's prime. This year makes a certain amount of sense given the schedule, the division, and the cap situation (which prevented them from signing higher-level FAs). But they have the potential to win 13 games again too.  

And you too raise good points. The thing is, some of the guys you mentioned were there before the rule changes. The QB position is even more vital than it was back in the day.

The salary structure it quite telling imo. QBs like Jones, Cousins, etc. are making 40-50 million per season. Owners seem to feel that without these guys their teams would barely win any games. I don't know; maybe they are right.

If Josh had better blocking and receivers I think that they would win the Super Bowl. That said, I still put a very small bet on them to do so when I was at at Mohegan Sun for a concert. :) 

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1 hour ago, FilthyBeast said:

This is in line with what I expect and what a lot of other pundits and experts are predicting.

 

Regarding the Bills specifically, I'm still holding off on my official prediction but right now I see anywhere from 6 - 10 wins as the magic number with a WC spot as ceiling.

 

Picking the Patriots is bold move but I can certainly see them sneaking up out of nowhere this year but still see the Dolphins as the favorites because they have one of the best overall rosters in NFL, top 5 QB (when healthy of course) and rising young head coach.

 

 

Don’t bother with your “official prediction.”  Literally no one cares.  

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