Beck Water Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Deonte Harty is just as electric, however, with a higher variance of ball security issues. I’d suspect he now focuses on KR/PR .. which may also define passing roles a bit more, with Kincaid/Slot WR also being a bit murky. People in this thread are saying this, but it's not quite what the stats record. Can you explain? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 It seemed to be a trade where the GM and coaches were not on the same page. Hines was a very good 3rd down back in Indy. Here…relegated to kick returner. IMO…not a great loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Shakir is an option for punts. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Feel bad for Hines, he's a good dude. Does Sherfield have any experience in return game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 1 hour ago, T&C said: He will. Sal Capaccio 🏈 @SalSports Other than the $340K in game-roster bonuses, Hines $3.5M cap hit will still count for 2023. So still looking at $3.16M. I wonder where Sal is getting his information, because that's not what Spotrac shows (unless the Bills choose to pay it). Spotrac says that $2M of Hines salary is guaranteed ($1M signing bonus plus $1M 2023 salary) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, LabattBlue said: It seemed to be a trade where the GM and coaches were not on the same page. Hines was a very good 3rd down back in Indy. Here…relegated to kick returner. IMO…not a great loss. That entire situation last year was bizarre. Attempt to sign McKissic, sign Duke Johnson, rumored to be in on McCaffery, draft Cook, trade for Hines... A very obvious attempt to stock the team with pass catching backs only to never throw to the backs! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, Lost said: Feel bad for Hines, he's a good dude. Does Sherfield have any experience in return game? Likewise, feel very bad for him. Very little - a couple of KR I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 5 minutes ago, Beck Water said: People in this thread are saying this, but it's not quite what the stats record. Can you explain? This is from the Syracuse.com write up on Harty.. “Harty has played 554 offensive snaps and 354 special teams snaps over the course of his three seasons. Five of his nine career fumbles have been muffed punts and the other four all happened on special teams. He’s never fumbled the ball on offense.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Lordy, lordy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 31 minutes ago, pkwwjd said: While sitting stationary on a jet ski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 I feel so bad for him. Just sitting there and some dumb ass rams into him. Poor guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 That truly sucks but we do have a bunch of options at RB, KR definitely took a hit for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 (edited) Interesting. Former NFL team doctor says it like it’s no doubt he won’t get money. Edited July 24, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Since we are looking at USFL talent.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, SCBills said: This is from the Syracuse.com write up on Harty.. “Harty has played 554 offensive snaps and 354 special teams snaps over the course of his three seasons. Five of his nine career fumbles have been muffed punts and the other four all happened on special teams. He’s never fumbled the ball on offense.” OK, but (for example) Andre Roberts is not referred to as a "fumbling machine" or a fumble risk. In the same period of time as Harty, he had 8 fumbles (all on ST I believe). Similar with Ray-ray McCloud, who has developed into a top PR/KR the last several years. He does play more WR especially in 2021, so some may be offensive, but he had 11 fumbles in the same time period. Is he referred to as a "fumbling machine"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I don't think he was selected as a first-team all-pro because "he's been a fumble machine" in the return game. Looking at stats, he had 3, 3, and 2 fumbles (1 lost each season). What are you seeing or what have you heard beyond the stats? He has 1 less fumble than Mckenzie with several less touches. Fumbles lost and fumbles not lost- no matter. In terms of a games outcome- there’s a difference. In terms of ball security- they are the same. A 50% chance that we lose the possession. I’m on record as being one of his biggest fans- loved the signing. I just don’t know if I want him being our return guy. He’s beyond electric and could be an all pro return man again. He just worries me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Can't spell Jet Ski without J-E-T-S. This was clearly a sabotage plot by gang green. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 This guy is always an option... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 Just now, Draconator said: This guy is always an option... Not at the table 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 12 minutes ago, SCBills said: This is from the Syracuse.com write up on Harty.. “Harty has played 554 offensive snaps and 354 special teams snaps over the course of his three seasons. Five of his nine career fumbles have been muffed punts and the other four all happened on special teams. He’s never fumbled the ball on offense.” Exactly what you don't want in a punt returner. 150 kick and punt returns, 9 muffs and fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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