Which off season QB contract will look the worst by the end of this season?

[machine gun kelly]

16 hours ago, Gregg said:

 

I hope you are right obviously, but I have a feeling the Jets are going to be good this year. Those 2 games against them are going to be hard fought games just like last year.

Gregg, I agree as Rodgers played through a broken thumb.  I can’t stand the guy as much as the next, but trying to throw a ball with a broken thumb would affect any QB.  
 

He was the mvp the previous two years.  I’d love him to fail miserably, but that’s wishful thinking.  He has lots of weapons, an incredible defense, etc.  what I’m hoping most for is he and his WR’s are not gelling yet in week 1.

[Since1981]

Jets were a mediocre QB away. Rogers scares me. Another pole could ask “which has the scariest upside to change a team” (JETS). Rogers is a spooky kook for bills fans. 
 

jones has most downside risk 

Edited July 19, 2023 by Since1981

[Gregg]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

Gregg, I agree as Rodgers played through a broken thumb.  I can’t stand the guy as much as the next, but trying to throw a ball with a broken thumb would affect any QB.  
 

He was the mvp the previous two years.  I’d love him to fail miserably, but that’s wishful thinking.  He has lots of weapons, an incredible defense, etc.  what I’m hoping most for is he and his WR’s are not gelling yet in week 1.

 

Hopefully "Father Time" gets him sooner than it got Brady. 

[BuffaloBill]

Jackson is an enigma to me - Just don’t think he will continue to measure up to the best QB’s he will be a fringe top ten but never seriously and continuously a top 5.

[Mr. WEO]

9 hours ago, LeGOATski said:

Gotta be Rodgers or Carr. They're just the highest risk of imploding due to age, inconsistency, and lack of momentum at this point in their careers.

 

Lamar is consistent and young. You know what you're getting and I don't think he's gonna disappoint while still on the Ravens.

 

Daniel Jones kinda sucks, but he's young and in a pretty good system. He's got momentum.

 

I went with Carr because he's worse than Rodgers and has a longer contract. He's not going to live up to it.

 

Consistently unavailable.  He's been a disappointment the past 2 seasons--done before the last month of the season.

 

Jones's best season was his rookie year, 4 years ago.  

[PonyBoy]

13 hours ago, Gugny said:

We’re playing them twice AGAIN!?!?  Eff Goodell!!

 

In Arrowhead too!!!!

[Royale with Cheese]

Rodgers.  I think his main passion right now is to show up the Packers.  But that won't last the entire season...that flame burns out once the season grind kicks in.

 

He is an attention seeker and now he's in NYC....I think by week 10 he's just going to go through the motions.  The Jets finish 9-8, miss the playoffs and Rodgers retires. 

[machine gun kelly]

1 hour ago, Gregg said:

 

Hopefully "Father Time" gets him sooner than it got Brady. 

As I mentioned, the best i can hope for is rust between Rodgers and his new toys and maybe their young RB is still out on 9/11.  The second game will be better as it’s in OP.  
 

Others are concerned with Miami, but hell Tua might be knocked out by the time we play them.  The Jets may turn into a real competition for us.

[Gregg]

10 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

As I mentioned, the best i can hope for is rust between Rodgers and his new toys and maybe their young RB is still out on 9/11.  The second game will be better as it’s in OP.  
 

Others are concerned with Miami, but hell Tua might be knocked out by the time we play them.  The Jets may turn into a real competition for us.

 

I do like the fact that we get them at MetLife in the opener. Rodgers first game with his new teammates. It may take some time to develop chemistry with them. If the Bills can win that game, it will be huge. It would give them a good opportunity to sweep them as the Bills will be favorite to win in OP. Although that will be a tough game as well.

[HOUSE]

Daniel Jones is worth 2nd string running back money 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Good topic.  Jones is the least talented of all of them. No idea why they gave him a contract extension.  They will regret that move over the next couple of years.  

 

I defend Jackson on this board a lot. He's a much better QB than many on here post. However he's now been injured two seasons in a row.  If I was Baltimore GM I would have tagged and forced him to play under the tag for one year and then let him walk.  I think he is talented but I would not have taken the risk of that many dollars for a guy that may have trouble staying healthy. 

 

Jets made a wise calculated risk. They have a championship caliber defense and some young stars on offense.  I don't think they did enough on the o-line to protect Rodgers. But he will be so much better than Zach Wilson who I predicted pre-draft would be a bust.  Rodgers experience should help cover up for some of the o-line deficiencies. But why Hackett as your OC?  Makes no sense.  He's terrible and makes Gase and Nagy almost look competent.  Unreal.

 

Carr?  I care so little I'm not even going to bother to remind myself which team he signed with. New Orleans?  

[DrDawkinstein]

16 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

If the best thing about a huge/overpriced contract is that you can get out of it in 2 years....that makes it not a great deal for the team.  

 

Rogers for 2 years at 10 million more per year is a far better deal than Jones.

 

Not "the best thing", but rather "another factor to consider".

 

Yes, Rodgers is a better deal. But your own question implies deciding which is the WORST.

 

So yes. Rodgers' contract is better than Jones', but IMO, Jones' deal is better than Carr's.

 

And if Daboll can get the same level of performance out of Jones, I think it will be better than what the Saints' staff gets out of Carr.

[Max Fischer]

Least concerning: Lamar Jackson.

 

All the others can be equally bad, but I'd say Derek Carr. Not because Carr will be "bad" this year, it's because there is little reason to think he will be any better and more likely, will decline, making the remaining three years on his contract that much more painful. 

 

I do not believe in Daniel Jones, but Brian Daboll appears to. Plus, he'll have another year under Daboll and additional talent on offense. I'm not sure Giants fans will be happy there will be another three years on the contract, but I don't think they'll be depressed, either. 

 

Last, Rodgers. I do not think he'll be anywhere near MVP level again, but he won't be the reason the Jets will continue to be disappointing for the fans. Plus, the team will only have one more year on the contract and time to draft his replacement. 

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

The Rodgers contract will be the worst unless he sticks around for a minimum of three years or they win a SB, in which case I would think Danny Dimes becomes worst. 

[Mr. WEO]

37 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Not "the best thing", but rather "another factor to consider".

 

Yes, Rodgers is a better deal. But your own question implies deciding which is the WORST.

 

So yes. Rodgers' contract is better than Jones', but IMO, Jones' deal is better than Carr's.

 

And if Daboll can get the same level of performance out of Jones, I think it will be better than what the Saints' staff gets out of Carr.

 

 

"same level"?  yikes. 

 

Also, Carr has been better than Jones every year. 

[machine gun kelly]

48 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Good topic.  Jones is the least talented of all of them. No idea why they gave him a contract extension.  They will regret that move over the next couple of years.  

 

I defend Jackson on this board a lot. He's a much better QB than many on here post. However he's now been injured two seasons in a row.  If I was Baltimore GM I would have tagged and forced him to play under the tag for one year and then let him walk.  I think he is talented but I would not have taken the risk of that many dollars for a guy that may have trouble staying healthy. 

 

Jets made a wise calculated risk. They have a championship caliber defense and some young stars on offense.  I don't think they did enough on the o-line to protect Rodgers. But he will be so much better than Zach Wilson who I predicted pre-draft would be a bust.  Rodgers experience should help cover up for some of the o-line deficiencies. But why Hackett as your OC?  Makes no sense.  He's terrible and makes Gase and Nagy almost look competent.  Unreal.

 

Carr?  I care so little I'm not even going to bother to remind myself which team he signed with. New Orleans?  

Agreed on most points.  I laughed at the Carr comment.  I wasn’t laughing at you brother.  It’s sad he may be the best QB in the NFCS.  Oh yeah and I live in Tampa.  I feel for my sons who follow the Bucs closer than me.  I like them and hope mayfield can help, but not holding my breath.

[BillsShredder83]

14 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

In 2019.  His stats and health since that time can not be ignored nor can his lack of success in the playoffs where he is 1 - 3 and has yet to play an above average playoff game.

 

The Giants are getting Jones for about 100 million dollars less then the Ravens are getting Jackson. 

 

 

 

 

1 - 3, and unavailable for two that both ended their seasons..... so the team is 1 - 5 with Jackson as their starter, hes still accountable for those losses from a team perspective, especially since last year he 100% refused to play when he was fine.  Dude has been pedestrian in playoffs and isnt a leader of men.  I dunno how any of his teammates can look the guy in the eye next year. If he was so worried about playing on that contract, dont play the reg season.... to play reg season, and say NAH in the playoffs is the ultimate bird flip to everyone else.

 

Everyone else who grinded for the season to get there. Who wanted a playoff run to help their own bag.  Players headed into retirement and their last chance at a run. Bird flip to the fans.

 

Im guessing O/U on games played is at 12. Gun to the head - anybody here taking the under? LOL, not me

Edited July 19, 2023 by BillsShredder83

[SWATeam]

37 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

"same level"?  yikes. 

 

Also, Carr has been better than Jones every year. 

2022 is very questionable that Carr was better especially considering Jones 700+ yards rushing and 7 TD's.

[C.Biscuit97]

14 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

In 2019.  His stats and health since that time can not be ignored nor can his lack of success in the playoffs where he is 1 - 3 and has yet to play an above average playoff game.

 

The Giants are getting Jones for about 100 million dollars less then the Ravens are getting Jackson. 

 

 

 

 

What was Peyton Manning’s record before he won a SB? Or Stafford’s?

 

jackson also had like 500 yards in a playoff loss.  Fans really don’t understand how a 25 year old quarterback with 45-16 record (they went 8-4 with him last year and 2-3 without him), a 96.7 qb rating, who has accounted for 17,000 total yards and 125 total TDs in 5 seasons got paid a lot of money???? 
 

this disrespect Jackson gets here is wild. But of course some posters went crazy about Mahomes throwing ints in training camp practice so that’s par for the course. 

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

Not "the best thing", but rather "another factor to consider".

 

Yes, Rodgers is a better deal. But your own question implies deciding which is the WORST.

 

So yes. Rodgers' contract is better than Jones', but IMO, Jones' deal is better than Carr's.

 

And if Daboll can get the same level of performance out of Jones, I think it will be better than what the Saints' staff gets out of Carr.

Yeah, I would be thrilled with 15 tds passes for $40 million!!! Can’t believe rbs are made about what they are making when scrub qbs who’s main selling point is they weren’t as awful as they had been for a year get that much money. Jones is clearance rack dollar store Josh Allen. 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

What was Peyton Manning’s record before he won a SB? Or Stafford’s?

 

jackson also had like 500 yards in a playoff loss.  Fans really don’t understand how a 25 year old quarterback with 45-16 record (they went 8-4 with him last year and 2-3 without him), a 96.7 qb rating, who has accounted for 17,000 total yards and 125 total TDs in 5 seasons got paid a lot of money???? 
 

this disrespect Jackson gets here is wild. But of course some posters went crazy about Mahomes throwing ints in training camp practice so that’s par for the course. 

 

Agree. Mystery to me. If the argument is "his injuries worry me" fine. But the argument "his performance isn't worth a big contract" I just don't get it. You mention the record without him last year but they were the number 1 seed just before he went out in 2021 as well. So it is two years in a row.