RFK Jr.

[The Frankish Reich]

3 minutes ago, BillStime said:

RFK = Kanye

 

No one but the cult takes them seriously.

 

 

Oops, I forgot about that other new right-wind "thought leader," Kanye.

Seriously, all you new-style Republicans: who are your thought leaders now? Is there any serious person, or is it all crackpot celebrities? Is it Peter Thiel? Because we can have a good talk about that. Not the Koch brothers anymore; they're so 2012.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

And what does it tell you?

They are afraid. 

[BillStime]

44 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Agreeing to the challenge is accepting RFK Jr.s claims as worthy of debate and gives the impression that there is a valid reason to believe them. 
 

Putting money up is simply a ploy to make it harder to do the sensible thing: deny this grifter a platform and the legitimacy he desires. It also makes the person making the reasonable decision into the bad guy. It’s clever, but wholly in bad faith. 

This is no different than @BillsFanNCtagging us in his posts. He wants us to credentialize and validate his argument by encouraging us to respond and debate.

 

It is nothing more than a LAMP.

 

 

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

They are afraid. 

Well that’s certainly a conclusion. A dumb one, but a conclusion nonetheless. 

[Doc]

6 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

They are afraid. 

 

They should be.  He's polling about 20% support among Dems.

[ChiGoose]

26 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Talk about a cop out. 

Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you:

 

Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. 
 

So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. 
 

Should he do it?

 

Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind).

 

Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave. 

Edited June 18, 2023 by ChiGoose

[Doc]

7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you:

 

Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. 
 

So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. 
 

Should he do it?

 

Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind).

 

Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave. 

 

Sorry but RFK Jr. isn't someone you can just ignore, much as you'd like to.  Again he's polling as high as 20% among Democrats.  If anything, you'd be doing society a favor by calling-him-out on his wacky belief, even if it only changes 1 person's mind. 

 

And as for vaccines causimg autism, The Lancet was responsible for that.  They're still around and respected (by some). 

[BillStime]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

Sorry but RFK Jr. isn't someone you can just ignore, much as you'd like to.  Again he's polling as high as 20% among Democrats.  If anything, you'd be doing society a favor by calling-him-out on his wacky belief, even if it only changes 1 person's mind. 

 

And as for vaccines causimg autism, The Lancet was responsible for that.  They're still around and respected (by some). 

What are your thoughts on the red wave?

 

Every pundit told us there would be a red wave.
 

What happened to the red wave “Doc”?

Meanwhile - RFK is a threat 

 

 

jfc these degenerates are desperate lol 

[BillStime]

🎯 Go Mark go

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Agreeing to the challenge is accepting RFK Jr.s claims as worthy of debate and gives the impression that there is a valid reason to believe them. 
 

Putting money up is simply a ploy to make it harder to do the sensible thing: deny this grifter a platform and the legitimacy he desires. It also makes the person making the reasonable decision into the bad guy. It’s clever, but wholly in bad faith. 

The reason he got challenged in such an aggressive manner is he originally quoted some crap from Vice that was along the lines of  the COVID vaccine makes you impervious to Covid. That is why he won't go on the show despite Joe offering the money, the statement he would have to defend is just as factually vapid as what he was attacking. I will repeat what I have said since since 2021 and thankfully have been vindicated, pushing healthy people under 40 to get the COVID vaccine is inappropriate and not beneficial. We know that under 40 and without at least two comorbidities means the chance of dying from COVID is basically zero and the vaccines don't last more than a few months. 

[ChiGoose]

52 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Sorry but RFK Jr. isn't someone you can just ignore, much as you'd like to.  Again he's polling as high as 20% among Democrats.  If anything, you'd be doing society a favor by calling-him-out on his wacky belief, even if it only changes 1 person's mind. 

 

And as for vaccines causimg autism, The Lancet was responsible for that.  They're still around and respected (by some). 

20% is probably the high watermark for him. 
 

It’s likely driven more by name recognition (Kennedy) and as a signal that people aren’t excited about Biden (which makes sense since most Dems didn’t want him to run again), than RFK Jr.’s actual views. 
 

His odds for unseating Biden in the primaries are about 0% and a year from now we’ll all likely have forgotten about him.

Edited June 18, 2023 by ChiGoose

[Orlando Tim]

40 minutes ago, BillStime said:

🎯 Go Mark go

 

 

Billsy bless your heart, you just put an ad up for Cubans new company and truly think it means he wants what is best for you. 

[Doc]

Just now, ChiGoose said:

20% is probably the high watermark for him. 
 

It’s likely driven more by name recognition (Kennedy) and as a signal that people aren’t excited about Biden (which makes sense since most Dems didn’t want him to run again), than RFK Jr.’s actual views. 
 

His odds for unseating Biden in the primaries are about 0% and a year from now we’ll all likely have forgotten about him.

 

Name recognition is important for any candidate.  And 20% might be a high for him.  But Joke can't ignore him forever.

 

[Tenhigh]

1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:

Ok, here’s a counterfactual for you:

 

Let’s say there are some loony lefties like Occupy Democrats or the Krassenstein Brothers and they have been making the claim that conservatives love to eat babies. It’s obviously false, there’s no evidence of it, but they are exploiting a niche on the internet that will buy into the claim and give them views and money. 
 

So then they put up money and say it’ll go to charity if Donald Trump comes on their show and beats them in a debate about whether or not conservatives eat babies. 
 

Should he do it?

 

Of course not! It would give them what they want (attention and legitimacy) while having about a 0% chance of changing the minds of the audience (if you already believe conservatives eat babies, nothing Donald Trump could say would change your mind).

 

Don’t give these trolls, losers, and idiots the attention and legitimacy they so desperately crave. 

This is a false equivalent.   RFK Jr. Already has a platform, your man just chickened out. And this is coming from someone who supports vaccines. 

4 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

So if Ronald Reagan had a kid running in the GOP primary who believed that the Earth was flat and that Wifi caused cancer, but also said we should all live in peace with no wars, you’d view him as a legitimate anti-establishment candidate instead of a loon?

I would trade wifi for world peace,  wouldn't you? 

[BillStime]

15 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Billsy bless your heart, you just put an ad up for Cubans new company and truly think it means he wants what is best for you. 

Did you read his comments Buffalo Timmy?

[ChiGoose]

7 minutes ago, Doc said:

But Joke can't ignore him forever.

 

He can. He should. And he will. 
 

And it’ll make no difference on the Dem primary. 

4 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

I would trade wifi for world peace,  wouldn't you? 

Sure. But in that scenario, you’re not getting world peace, you’re getting appeasement for ruthless dictators. What happens when Putin and Xi realize that US will not push back on them for wanting to seize lands from other countries?

 

Do you think it’ll be world peace?

[Doc]

2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

He can. He should. And he will. 
 

And it’ll make no difference on the Dem primary. 

 

Of course he'll try.  But he's not going away.  One wacky belief doesn't negate everything else.

 

And true, it likely will make no difference to the Dem primary.  But the Election...

[Orlando Tim]

10 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Did you read his comments Buffalo Timmy?

Yes I read his ad, what is your point?

[ChiGoose]

6 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Of course he'll try.  But he's not going away.  One wacky belief doesn't negate everything else.

 

And true, it likely will make no difference to the Dem primary.  But the Election...

He is going away and it’ll have no impact on the election. 
 

He’s a flash in the pan loonie who is being propped up by people who the Dems by and large despise. Once he gets more time in front of the general public, his popularity will decrease and he’ll be out of the picture once they start counting votes. 

[BillStime]

6 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Yes I read his ad, what is your point?

Whatever you do - don’t get vaccinated and don’t go to the doctor. No more prescriptions for you.

 

Just call up the Fear Factor host - he will prescribe you roaches and deer balls.

 

 

[Orlando Tim]

5 minutes ago, BillStime said:

Whatever you do - don’t get vaccinated and don’t go to the doctor. No more prescriptions for you.

 

Just call up the Fear Factor host - he will prescribe you roaches and deer balls.

 

 

Why do you believe that healthy 20 year olds should get the COVID vaccine?

[Doc]

20 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

He is going away and it’ll have no impact on the election. 
 

He’s a flash in the pan loonie who is being propped up by people who the Dems by and large despise. Once he gets more time in front of the general public, his popularity will decrease and he’ll be out of the picture once they start counting votes. 

 

Good luck with that.  He appears to have a supporter in Joe Rogan, who many thought would go away when he admitted he used ivermectin.

Edited June 18, 2023 by Doc

[BillStime]

4 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

Why do you believe that healthy 20 year olds should get the COVID vaccine?

So they stay healthy 

[Orlando Tim]

Just now, BillStime said:

So they stay healthy 

You should pay more attention to Joe and his discussion of vaccine efficacy- there is no evidence that healthy 20 year olds benefit and there is evidence it is causing heart issues. 

[ChiGoose]

18 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Good luck with that.  He appears to have a supporter in Joe Rogan, who many thought would go away when he admitted he used ivermectin.

If people believed that about Joe Rogan, they are ignorant.

[JDHillFan]

51 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

What happens when Putin and Xi realize that US will not push back on them for wanting to seize lands from other countries?

They would likely start by flying balloons loaded out with surveillance equipment over the US mainland from coast to coast and the president will declare that it was an accident and Xi and or Putin were likely uninformed of the matter. 
 

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4055470-biden-on-chinese-spy-balloon-embarrassing/

[BillStime]

32 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

You should pay more attention to Joe and his discussion of vaccine efficacy- there is no evidence that healthy 20 year olds benefit and there is evidence it is causing heart issues. 

You and Joe Rogan are the last people I would solicit advice. 

[Doc]

41 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

If people believed that about Joe Rogan, they are ignorant.

 

Oh, they did.  But whatever the case may be, again, RFK Jr. appears to have his ear and therefore a mouthpiece, so he's not going anywhere.  If that changes...

[All_Pro_Bills]

11 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

Oh, they did.  But whatever the case may be, again, RFK Jr. appears to have his ear and therefore a mouthpiece, so he's not going anywhere.  If that changes...

The debate offer from the Rogan podcast is $1.5 million but none of the credentialed bull sheet artists appear to have the confidence in their positions to take the offer.  The cowards claim they don't want to legitimize the other side.  What an original excuse!

.

[BillsFanNC]

People in this thread who aren't qualified to weigh in on the science of vaccines or who is qualified to debate on the science of vaccines:

 

Everyone.

 

But it's always great to read more of @ChiGoose bloviating!

 

 

[Doc]

8 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

The debate offer from the Rogan podcast is $1.5 million but none of the credentialed bull sheet artists appear to have the confidence in their positions to take the offer.  The cowards claim they don't want to legitimize the other side.  What an original excuse!

.

 

I suspect it's what OT said, i.e. that he'd be called-out for claiming that the vaccine would prevent you from getting and spreading Wuhan virus.  He doesn't want that to be revealed.

[Wacka]

2 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

Once he gets more time in front of the general public, his popularity will decrease and he’ll be out of the picture once they start counting votes. 

Yep, start counting votes that haven't  been cast yet or floating on Lake Michigan.

[Orlando Tim]

1 hour ago, BillStime said:

You and Joe Rogan are the last people I would solicit advice. 

I know, you stated that the vaccine was good for healthy 20 year olds, of which there is no evidence to support. 

[BillStime]

1 hour ago, BillsFanNC said:

People in this thread who aren't qualified to weigh in on the science of vaccines or who is qualified to debate on the science of vaccines:

 

Everyone.

 

But it's always great to read more of @ChiGoose bloviating!

 

 

And RFK’s credentials?

[Doc Brown]

16 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

What if a bunch of morons got together $1 million dollars to get a parent of Sandy Hook to debate their claim that their kid was just a crisis actor? “It’s for charity, it could show people they are wrong about this conspiracy.” Sure. But it also dignifies and validates the bad actors.

 

I don’t think we should blame someone for not taking up the dumb obligation placed on them by morons. 

Then they'd have a million dollars for charity.

[reddogblitz]

11 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

This isn’t Teddy Kennedy running in a primary against Jimmy Carter. It’s a nutjob crank being given a platform solely because of his last name and because far right actors like Steve Bannon want to use him to damage Biden. 
 

 

The guy is a crackpot.  He's getting attention and people are listening and he's getting 20% of the primary poll votes in some places cuz he's the only other person running against President Biden.  Its that simple.   It's not Republicans.  Do you think he could do this well running against President Obama or President Clinton running for a second term?  If Newsome wasn't a chicken and got in himself he'd start at 40%.

8 hours ago, BillStime said:

What are your thoughts on the red wave?

 

Every pundit told us there would be a red wave.
 

What happened to the red wave “Doc”?

Meanwhile - RFK is a threat 

 

 

jfc these degenerates are desperate lol 

 

I've always said that Roger Stone is a snazzy dresser.

[Tommy Callahan]

All weekend on twitter were the DEM profiles going at RFK on every topic possible.

 

Giving him that free publicity without even realizing it.

 

 

[aristocrat]

Covid made everyone lose their minds. Stating that the vaccine would prevent you from ever getting Covid really hurt the vaccine’s credibility. Stating that a drug like ivermectin or hydroxyl (so) would kill despite decades of safe use lost a lot of credibility.

 

My wife is a nurse and we chased Covid around the country. She ran Into black peoples in New Orleans who wouldn’t get vaxxed cause they had relatives die in the Tuskegee experiments. 
 

in Reno she had doctors that swore by hq and used it for treating Covid patients and nobody died from it.

Oregon was the worst contract by far and the left legalizing drugs there so people destroyed their hearts and lungs got so many people killed. The ptsd from that contract was nuts. 

[Irv]

RFK is way more capable than Joe Bribe'em at this point.  Bribe'em has was stupid to start.  But now with the dementia, it's over for that dude.

[BillStime]

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