Draconator Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15zvee17TlCsrIiVXayfIsPRZPUgy4sYZ/view?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 35 minutes ago, Draconator said: Try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15zvee17TlCsrIiVXayfIsPRZPUgy4sYZ/view?usp=sharing Same thing at first. Was locked into the one image. But then once I closed out of it I was able to swipe. Seems to be fine now. Hopefully everyone else is able to view. And Thank you for doing this for everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Draconator said: Try this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15zvee17TlCsrIiVXayfIsPRZPUgy4sYZ/view?usp=sharing Thanks for posting. I only see one picture but my initial response is that I thought it’d be taller. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 (edited) Live view is up, site looks very active this morning! (lots of activity when I looked... probably just one lonely backhoe when you look) Edited March 29 by GottaRun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 51 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Thanks for posting. I only see one picture but my initial response is that I thought it’d be taller. 😂 My wife said the same thing the first time she "met" me 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 42 minutes ago, Draconator said: My wife said the same thing the first time she "met" me The first time she met you? Or the first time she… MET you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 16 minutes ago, mrags said: The first time she met you? Or the first time she… MET you? Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 10 hours ago, nucci said: not asking for a friend? Just clarifying an intended lack of snark in my post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 On 3/29/2024 at 9:01 AM, GottaRun said: Live view is up, site looks very active this morning! (lots of activity when I looked... probably just one lonely backhoe when you look) Hopefully they have brains enough to ultimately bury the utilities. Would be so WNY to build a $2b stadium and then leave the utilities hanging from 1940's power poles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 4 hours ago, ProcessTruster said: Hopefully they have brains enough to ultimately bury the utilities. Would be so WNY to build a $2b stadium and then leave the utilities hanging from 1940's power poles. But then we won’t get to have games blacked out by helium Mylar balloons let go by children! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 7 hours ago, UConn James said: But then we won’t get to have games blacked out by helium Mylar balloons let go by children! That game was a mess to be at. But glad I was there considering it wasn’t on tv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GottaRun Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Big boy construction toys on the site at the moment, go full screen and give it a minute for the video to sharpen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, GottaRun said: Big boy construction toys on the site at the moment, go full screen and give it a minute for the video to sharpen I see Hammer is allowing them to use his lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 4 minutes ago, GottaRun said: Big boy construction toys on the site at the moment, go full screen and give it a minute for the video to sharpen Thanks for sharing. As they always say: “Planes don’t make money sitting on the ground”. And likewise: “Cranes don’t make money standing in one place.” Come on boys, put your backs into it! 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 6 hours ago, mrags said: I see Hammer is allowing them to use his lot. I wonder if Hammer has received an offer. He was close before. He is right next door now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 11 minutes ago, Einstein said: I wonder if Hammer has received an offer. He was close before. He is right next door now. I have no doubt the Bills are going to buy him out. I'm not sure what the future of tailgating will look like at the new stadium but I can almost guarantee they aren't going to want any of the "blue collar tailgating" going on in one of the lots right next to this new fancy schmancy stadium lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2025/ My questioning seemingly answered. $45 million in 2025. If Von is gone I believe, but could be wrong, that adds another $8 million to $53. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 22 minutes ago, Einstein said: I wonder if Hammer has received an offer. He was close before. He is right next door now. I don’t want to throw Hammers business out there. But I’m putting money on it that the Bills will own that lot within 5 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 45 minutes ago, mrags said: I don’t want to throw Hammers business out there. But I’m putting money on it that the Bills will own that lot within 5 years. Any idea what kind of values the Bills are paying for the other lots that I’ve read have been purchased? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: Any idea what kind of values the Bills are paying for the other lots that I’ve read have been purchased? Well they bought the mud lot last year. Don’t remember the exact number but I think it was something like 5m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 40 minutes ago, mrags said: Well they bought the mud lot last year. Don’t remember the exact number but I think it was something like 5m According to OnX app it looks like Erie County owns the Mud Lot, but that information is just a download from the county records and those take some time to reflect property transfers. Edited April 3 by WotAGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Just now, WotAGuy said: According to OnX app it looks like Erie County owns the Mud Lot, but that I formation is just a download from the county records and those take some time to reflect property transfers. Which lot is the “mud lot”? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 (edited) 22 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: Which lot is the “mud lot”? I was just checking. It is off Route 20A, south of the field house and next to Lot 1 on the east side. County records show Brian Barco as owner, so the transfer hasn’t been updated in the web database. I saw a Reddit thread saying 2.5 million for the sale. Based on the county owning all the stadium property, I expect it was the county that bought the mud lot also. Erie County property records don’t have any land owned by the Bills. Edited April 3 by WotAGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 33 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: According to OnX app it looks like Erie County owns the Mud Lot, but that information is just a download from the county records and those take some time to reflect property transfers. Maybe because of the gifting of property for the new stadium there was something else with it. Idk. You’re looking at the lot behind the field house right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 21 minutes ago, mrags said: Maybe because of the gifting of property for the new stadium there was something else with it. Idk. You’re looking at the lot behind the field house right? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 13 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Yes Yeah that’s correct. That lot was sold last year or just before that. I didn’t remember the exact amount. Something like 5m. Pretty sure it was bought by the Bills. They use it as their employee parking on game day now I believe. Because the employee parking was across the Abbott. But we know thats not an availability now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 31 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Yes Hey! Back in the 70s we used to park in the mud lot. Who knew? Go figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, WotAGuy said: I was just checking. It is off Route 20A, south of the field house and next to Lot 1 on the east side. County records show Brian Barco as owner, so the transfer hasn’t been updated in the web database. I saw a Reddit thread saying 2.5 million for the sale. Based on the county owning all the stadium property, I expect it was the county that bought the mud lot also. Erie County property records don’t have any land owned by the Bills. Zillow shows the following sales/pricing August 2004 - Sold - $87,550 April 2016 - Sold - $275,000 March 2023 - Listed for $3,900,000 April 2023 - Price drop/listed for $2,900,000 August 2023 - Sold - $2,000,000 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 "40 years ago this week: One of the lengthiest trials in the history of Western New York was underway in New York State Supreme Court. It involved the proposed dome stadium in Lancaster which was supposed to serve as a new home for the Buffalo Bills. In 1969, Erie County agreed in principle with developer Edward Cottrell to build the indoor, multi use stadium along with a theme park and hotel complex on land bounded by Genesee St., Harris Hill Rd., Walden Ave., and Story Rd. However, as cost estimates for the project rose, the county shifted gears and decided on an open air stadium in Orchard Park for about one-third of the cost of the dome stadium complex. Cottrell sued for breach of contract, seeking more than $400 million in damages,. and setting off a near two decade long legal battle. After it took 14 years for the case to get to trial, the trial itself lasted 42 weeks and concluded with Cottrell being awarded $53 million. However, after another five years of appeals, the county finally paid Cottrell $10 million, concluding the case after 19 years." What could have been. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 30 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: "40 years ago this week: One of the lengthiest trials in the history of Western New York was underway in New York State Supreme Court. It involved the proposed dome stadium in Lancaster which was supposed to serve as a new home for the Buffalo Bills. In 1969, Erie County agreed in principle with developer Edward Cottrell to build the indoor, multi use stadium along with a theme park and hotel complex on land bounded by Genesee St., Harris Hill Rd., Walden Ave., and Story Rd. However, as cost estimates for the project rose, the county shifted gears and decided on an open air stadium in Orchard Park for about one-third of the cost of the dome stadium complex. Cottrell sued for breach of contract, seeking more than $400 million in damages,. and setting off a near two decade long legal battle. After it took 14 years for the case to get to trial, the trial itself lasted 42 weeks and concluded with Cottrell being awarded $53 million. However, after another five years of appeals, the county finally paid Cottrell $10 million, concluding the case after 19 years." What could have been. Had a friend on this jury. They were sequestered for much of that time from what I recall. It was a nightmare for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Just now, WotAGuy said: Had a friend on this jury. They were sequestered for much of that time from what I recall. It was a nightmare for them. Did your friend get to see any renderings? 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said: Did your friend get to see any renderings? 😂 Most likely more than what current STHs are getting now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: "40 years ago this week: One of the lengthiest trials in the history of Western New York was underway in New York State Supreme Court. It involved the proposed dome stadium in Lancaster which was supposed to serve as a new home for the Buffalo Bills. In 1969, Erie County agreed in principle with developer Edward Cottrell to build the indoor, multi use stadium along with a theme park and hotel complex on land bounded by Genesee St., Harris Hill Rd., Walden Ave., and Story Rd. However, as cost estimates for the project rose, the county shifted gears and decided on an open air stadium in Orchard Park for about one-third of the cost of the dome stadium complex. Cottrell sued for breach of contract, seeking more than $400 million in damages,. and setting off a near two decade long legal battle. After it took 14 years for the case to get to trial, the trial itself lasted 42 weeks and concluded with Cottrell being awarded $53 million. However, after another five years of appeals, the county finally paid Cottrell $10 million, concluding the case after 19 years." What could have been. Litigation of any kind should never take 19 years to complete. There’s just too much BS baked into the system and only available to very deep pocketed adversaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 56 minutes ago, K-9 said: Litigation of any kind should never take 19 years to complete. There’s just too much BS baked into the system and only available to very deep pocketed adversaries. The thing is Buffalo was that close to creating a "Patriot Place" decades before the idea ever dawned on Robert Kraft. This was supposed to include a hotel and retail development. Who knows what the team's fortunes would have been playing in a dome since 1972? It would have been that much closer to Rochester as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 27 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: The thing is Buffalo was that close to creating a "Patriot Place" decades before the idea ever dawned on Robert Kraft. This was supposed to include a hotel and retail development. Who knows what the team's fortunes would have been playing in a dome since 1972? It would have been that much closer to Rochester as well. Not really that much closer to Rochester. Because there’s no exit off the 90 to get to Lancaster easily. Have to get off at Transit rd/Clarance exit and drive up transit and hit every light along the way. Actually probably about the same to stay on the 90 and take it right up to the 219 and get to the stadium in OP. If anything it’s not much different. But I am also sure there would have been some exits by now off the 90 had that happened. Just never did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: The thing is Buffalo was that close to creating a "Patriot Place" decades before the idea ever dawned on Robert Kraft. This was supposed to include a hotel and retail development. Who knows what the team's fortunes would have been playing in a dome since 1972? It would have been that much closer to Rochester as well. Might have had a MLB team also if the place was ever built Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 12 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Might have had a MLB team also if the place was ever built True. We were in line for the expansion team that became the Expos if we had a stadium. This was to be multipurpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 2 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Might have had a MLB team also if the place was ever built Once you live outside of WNY you realize just how small the Buffalo area really is. Be glad you have two major sports franchises. Theres no way it could support a Major League Baseball team. No way. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Once you live outside of WNY you realize just how small the Buffalo area really is. Be glad you have two major sports franchises. Theres no way it could support a Major League Baseball team. No way. Could have gotten away with basketball (yes I know, used to be) up until about 10-15 years ago. Then the NBA took off and became very rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 10 minutes ago, mrags said: Could have gotten away with basketball (yes I know, used to be) up until about 10-15 years ago. Then the NBA took off and became very rich. We had a great team in 70's too bad we had a crap owner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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