Mister Defense Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Chaos said: A superb if subtle post, as I think you are saying that the Bills' focus on the athletic qualities of players, and so their potential to develop, has been a fundamental flaw in the Bills' leadership. This seems especially true of the offensive lineman. All you need to add to your post is "and he can play anywhere on the line" and it would be even more complete in its criticism. Hopefully someone in the Bills' organization has the same astute analysis as you. Or we will one day lament the wasted years when we had the best quarterback to ever play the game but gave him offensive lines, full of great physical specimens capable of playing multiple positions, but incapable of protecting the quarterback and opening holes for the running backs. Awesome post! Edited April 16, 2023 by Mister Defense 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mister Defense said: A superb if subtle post, as I think you are saying that the Bills focus on the athletic qualities of players, and so their potential to develop, has been a fundamental flaw in the Bills' leadership. This seems especially true of the offensive lineman. All you need to add to your post is "and he can play anywhere on the line" and it would be even more complete in its criticism. Hopefully someone in the Bills organization has the same astute analysis as you or we will one day lament the wasted years when we had the best quarterback to ever play the game but gave him offensive lines, full of great physical specimens capable of playing multiple positions, but incapable of protecting the quarterback and opening holes for the running backs. Awesome post! You give me too much credit. Just hopeful, the Beane is correct that Brown will make progress this year, in year three of his potential. But with the advantage of the rookie contracts, the goal should be to get rookies who contribute instantly, rather than to develop them for the next team that signs them as a free agent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 10:55 AM, wppete said: Threat breakdown! Thanks! He’s my favourite OL this year and if he is available at #27 we have to draft him….. Can Spencer Brown be moved to guard? Bills won't move Brown to guard. They just signed two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 7:55 AM, wppete said: Threat breakdown! Thanks! He’s my favourite OL this year and if he is available at #27 we have to draft him….. Can Spencer Brown be moved to guard? Yes I'd draft him at 27 over any WR not named JSN. And no Spencer is too tall to play guard. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Yeah Wright is the next obsession here if we pass. Maybe we draft him, I dunno. But if we don’t there is a large contingent who will not let it go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah Wright is the next obsession here if we pass. Maybe we draft him, I dunno. But if we don’t there is a large contingent who will not let it go. If Brown stinks again next year maybe they will be justified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Taking Josh out of the equation, the 2 positions on offense that can derail the 2023 season are OT and WR IMO. An injury to Dawkins along with the same play from Spencer Brown would be very, very bad. If Doyle and Q end up playing significant time, I pity Josh. If Diggs was to miss a lot of games the same can be said for the WR room. Draft a WR and OT with 2 of the 1st 3 picks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, DapperCam said: If Brown stinks again next year maybe they will be justified? Yeah maybe. Depends on who we draft in the first and how they do. But I don’t think Beane and co are done with Brown. Maybe they want to give him a full healthy year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I think he goes top 20 so won’t be there unfortunately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Chaos said: You give me too much credit. Just hopeful, the Beane is correct that Brown will make progress this year, in year three of his potential. But with the advantage of the rookie contracts, the goal should be to get rookies who contribute instantly, rather than to develop them for the next team that signs them as a free agent. Maybe this will be Bashams year too! Drafted before RAS god brown- why not start Basham with hopes that this is the year he finally becomes a real player? It’s ok to risk the health of our franchises’ best player ever by trotting Brown out there for a 3rd year in a row after being TERRIBLE in his first 2 years. Basham hasn’t been good…. but he’s been a better DE than Brown has been RT. Why not start him? Let the record show, both have tremendous RAS scores. Upside ceiling with a floor that is bordering the earths core. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, NewEra said: Maybe this will be Bashams year too! Drafted before RAS god brown- why not start Basham with hopes that this is the year he finally becomes a real player? It’s ok to risk the health of our franchises’ best player ever by trotting Brown out there for a 3rd year in a row after being TERRIBLE in his first 2 years. Basham hasn’t been good…. but he’s been a better DE than Brown has been RT. Why not start him? Let the record show, both have tremendous RAS scores. Upside ceiling with a floor that is bordering the earths core. RAS scores are overrated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: RAS scores are overrated! No, you must be wrong. I read right here that it’s good to base your selection upon them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: No, you must be wrong. I read right here that it’s good to base your selection upon them. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I'd run to the podium if Wright is there at 27. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, newcam2012 said: I'd run to the podium if Wright is there at 27. They probably won't let you on stage. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah maybe. Depends on who we draft in the first and how they do. But I don’t think Beane and co are done with Brown. Maybe they want to give him a full healthy year. The obsession with the right tackle position on here is just another case of TSW obsession with positions that don't really move the needle wrt wins and losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Just now, BADOLBILZ said: The obsession with the right tackle position on here is just another case of TSW obsession with positions that don't really move the needle wrt wins and losses. Who do you think is likely to be there at 27 that would move the needle? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Wright is gonna get bullied his first couple seasons.....he needs a significant amount of strength training. Solid prospect though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Who do you think is likely to be there at 27 that would move the needle? The usual premium positions.......LT, pass rusher, receiver or CB. LT is likely out of the question at 27 but there are options at the other 3. You can't cover up those positions they are edge/island positions where an individual player can really make a huge difference for the team. So there are plenty of options that don't include guards, runnin' bax, RT's, off-ball LB's or safeties. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 4/2/2023 at 12:24 PM, Bigvinny said: Jason Peters was drafted as a Tight End. Jason Peters was an undrafted free agent. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Peters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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