ColoradoBills Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think it’ll be Diggs Davis Harty Shakir WR drafted rds 1-3. this WR class isn’t very good and the guys that we’ll be selecting will have a hard time beating out gabe. Maybe they’ll slot in over shakir, but they plan to utilize Harty. Mcdermotts reluctance to give big minutes to draft picks also factors in imo I see the rookie WR being an outside guy who will replace Davis next year. As the primary outside depth guy, he can get a lot of snaps. Spelling Diggs and Davis alone probably gives him 30%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Conflicted on this and not because of the personality. He had some gaffes and Harty made him redundant so I get it, but he was still valuable, productive, and added some variety to the offense. I really hope this is not the case of coaches’ inability to get the best out of him resulting in a release. Just can’t help but think if that 11 catch, 125 yard, 1 TD game against NE* and wonder if we should have been utilizing his skill set more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (edited) I'm sad McKenzie is leaving. He's such a great guy and it was so much to watch him in that Pats games a couple seasons ago. But this past season, he wasn't able to shine in a bigger role. Maybe the talent wasn't quite there. Maybe Dorsey misused him. I'm not sure. But we all know it didn't work out the way anyone had hoped. Edited March 17 by hondo in seattle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanMike Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Lil’ Dirty will be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bangarang Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Harty better keep his tiny ass healthy. 1 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, BillsFanMike said: Lil’ Dirty will be back. Hope not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, BillsFanMike said: Lil’ Dirty will be back. Odds are he will get signed a vet minimum (or close to that) to compete on another team. If he gets cut, he will be back on the Bills PS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: Conflicted on this and not because of the personality. He had some gaffes and Harty made him redundant so I get it, but he was still valuable, productive, and added some variety to the offense. I really hope this is not the case of coaches’ inability to get the best out of him resulting in a release. Just can’t help but think if that 11 catch, 125 yard, 1 TD game against NE* and wonder if we should have been utilizing his skill set more. If we’re simply sticking with Diggs-Davis-Shakir-Harty, then yea.. I might agree.. why not keep McKenzie as WR5. But that’s not a Championship caliber WR room, imo, and I hope this signals that - at the very least - Shakir and Harty are getting bumped down a slot in the WR room pecking order. If that’s the case, McKenzie not playing ST’s, at a 2.5M cap hit, doesn’t make a ton of sense as WR6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, BillsFanMike said: Lil’ Dirty will be back. Lol. I agree. Maybe not this offseason, but at some point in the next 5 years I expect him to be a Bill again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 3 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said: gabe only had 6 more receptions with 28 more passes his way. only knock on mckenzie was his muffs imo I am on record stating relative to expectation, Gabe Davis was the biggest disappointment this year. Regardless, Gabe Davis is largely irrelevant in the McKenzie discussion. And the only knock on him being the miffs is a pretty damn important knock, especially since we have Hines on the team now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottLaw Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 19 minutes ago, NewEra said: I think it’ll be Diggs Davis Harty Shakir WR drafted rds 1-3. this WR class isn’t very good and the guys that we’ll be selecting will have a hard time beating out gabe. Maybe they’ll slot in over shakir, but they plan to utilize Harty. Mcdermotts reluctance to give big minutes to draft picks also factors in imo Looks like a mediocre WR room. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Araiza Curse Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 4 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Harty better keep his tiny ass healthy. Doesn’t matter. There were many times during the season I wanted McKenzie cut, glad we have moved on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t see my as a fit. They have wandale robinson, parris Campbell and Hodgins. All three are best in the slot- their other WR is Sterling IRpard. Maybe Daboll loves him that much that he’ll add a 4th midget WR, but I think he can be used better on other teams That's a good point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 If you listen closely to what Beane says, they have "receiver roles." Right or wrong, it's what he says. Diggs is 1 - outside Davis is 2- outside Shakir is 3 (this is designated for their slot position) Harty is 4 (He said specifically that what they look for in a 4 is a guy who plays inside and out. I think Harty gets more snaps than Shakir, but he is the "4" role...imo this was like Emmanuel Sanders' role for a bit) Their 5 is a receiver who is also a gunner. This has been Jake Kumerow since 2021. Before it was Andre Holmes, Brandon Tate, Damari Scott. If they don't bring back Kumerow, Mack Hollins or Justin Watson makes sense to me. Can play outside as well The 6 is the depth guy who probably doesn't dress on game day. So essentially, imo, any addition going forward is either taking Davis' or Shakir's job. This structure, right or wrong, is why Isaiah Hodgins is gone. They didn't think he was better than the slots we had, and he couldn't play outside or on special teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPS Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 It's understandable as a football decision, but sorry to see him go. One of my favorite stories about the connection between the Bills and its fans is the one about him tweeting about dinner on Xmas eve 2021, then being invited into a home by a fan, and he went. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 9 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Conflicted on this and not because of the personality. He had some gaffes and Harty made him redundant so I get it, but he was still valuable, productive, and added some variety to the offense. I really hope this is not the case of coaches’ inability to get the best out of him resulting in a release. Just can’t help but think if that 11 catch, 125 yard, 1 TD game against NE* and wonder if we should have been utilizing his skill set more. Seemed like an outlier game. Coaches can’t teach hand skills. We need guys who are consistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 6 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Conflicted on this and not because of the personality. He had some gaffes and Harty made him redundant so I get it, but he was still valuable, productive, and added some variety to the offense. I really hope this is not the case of coaches’ inability to get the best out of him resulting in a release. Just can’t help but think if that 11 catch, 125 yard, 1 TD game against NE* and wonder if we should have been utilizing his skill set more. No doubt. One off games by receivers/returners have to be treated exactly that, one off. Microcosm of McKenzie's career here, incredibly exciting one game, fraught with peril the next. Look at the raging post season success Gabe Davis had two years ago and what he did this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 1 minute ago, SCBills said: If we’re simply sticking with Diggs-Davis-Shakir-Harty, then yea.. I might agree.. why not keep McKenzie as WR5. But that’s not a Championship caliber WR room, imo, and I hope this signals that - at the very least - Shakir and Harty are getting bumped down a slot in the WR room pecking order. If that’s the case, McKenzie not playing ST’s, at a 2.5M cap hit, doesn’t make a ton of sense as WR6. Yep, and I do get the numbers game and allocation of money to the position. That’s why I’m conflicted and not full stop against the move. But I think I’d prefer: (A) Diggs as “WR1”, rotating Davis/Round 1 or 2 Draft Pick as “WR2”, and rotating Shakir/Harty/McKenzie as “WR3” similar to the keeping legs fresh on the DL theory; and (B) ST contribution from a different, defensive, position or positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 2 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Looks like a mediocre WR room. Which could be enough if we can find a way to get better OL play, a better offensive scheme and a healthy Josh Allen arm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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